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Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by Matthew » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:42 pm

The North Koreans launched a missile that flew over Japan this morning. The Japanese air raid sirens sounded and the population braced for a possible attack. And America did nothing. Japan didn't even try to shoot it down. It's like Kin Jung un knows...America won't do a thing about it.....

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by Guest » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:10 am

Guest wrote:
Guest wrote: This is a red line the Indians will never allow to be crossed.
Another red line. Great.
Red lines can only acquire credibility through repeated and consistent articulation, with leverage or capabilities to enforce them, if crossed. It is likely adversaries will test the ability to enforce red lines.
"There have been so many red lines laid down before North Korea, they are beginning to look like a red carpet."
Noboru Yamaguchi, a retired lieutenant general with the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by jmm1184 » Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:25 am

I've said many, many times over the last 15 years that Millennials are
the next "Greatest Generation," and that when the time comes, they'll put
aside all the politics and will eagerly defend their families and
their country.

I'm not sure what you can tell your 17 year old friend. Depending on
what he plans to study in college, which could be anything from
women's studies to nuclear physics, it's possible that whatever he
might learn in college will be completely useless and irrelevant after
the war. Furthermore, he will learn a lot in the armed forces,
including all sorts of construction skills and survival techniques
that will help him a great deal after the war, assuming that he and
the country both survive. Also, there will certainly be a new GI Bill
that will provide benefits to returning veterans for education, as
well as other benefits.
And I applaud you for being one of the few voices I know who are not constantly bashing the Millennials for this reason. I don't agree or like what some of my peers do, but I'd say that's typical human existence.

As for my friend, should he survive he should be fine. He's a hard worker and gets along well with people. Moreover, he's wanting to study music education. With all due respect, I hope at least some people continue to study the arts even through the crisis war so there's a civilization to return to when the war is over.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by John » Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:03 pm

jmm1184 wrote: > Ah very interesting. I could see a scenario in which China decides
> to declare war on and attack the USA after learning of our
> assistance with the Indians. The one character I'm greatly
> intrigued by is Russia. I seem to recall you saying a while back
> that India and Russia are close allies, and that Russia would be
> more likely to come to India's aid before the US would do so. Is
> this accurate?

> Moreover, I had a sobering conversation with a friend today. He
> said he is very sad and scared because of the real possibility
> that he will not be able to go to college due to being conscripted
> into the armed forces (he is only 17). Before any comments about
> millennials not wanting to do their duty he has repeatedly
> expressed interest into joining the armed forces, but after
> getting his college education.

> I think it is important to remember, especially when tempted to
> bash millennials for all the negative stereotypes the media gives
> them, especially young millennial men, that it is precisely these
> "entitled" individuals who will be fighting for the survival of
> this great country, and since I am only 26 that will probably
> include myself. Kyrie Eleison.
I've said many, many times over the last 15 years that Millennials are
the next "Greatest Generation," and that when the time comes, they'll put
aside all the politics and will eagerly defend their families and
their country.

I'm not sure what you can tell your 17 year old friend. Depending on
what he plans to study in college, which could be anything from
women's studies to nuclear physics, it's possible that whatever he
might learn in college will be completely useless and irrelevant after
the war. Furthermore, he will learn a lot in the armed forces,
including all sorts of construction skills and survival techniques
that will help him a great deal after the war, assuming that he and
the country both survive. Also, there will certainly be a new GI Bill
that will provide benefits to returning veterans for education, as
well as other benefits.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by jmm1184 » Sun Aug 13, 2017 3:39 pm

It depends on what you mean by "get involved."

For example, in a war between India and China, the US might provide
satellite intelligence to India from day one.

Also, I read somewhere that India only has enough ammunition to last
30 days, so the US or Russia might start supplying ammunition right
away.

As today's article describes, the war might spread to the Indian Ocean
fairly quickly. It could also spread to Kashmir very quickly, with
Pakistan directly entering the war as combatant.

I would expect, within a few months, for a full-scale world war to be
in progress, with nuclear weapons being used.
Ah very interesting. I could see a scenario in which China decides to declare war on and attack the USA after learning of our assistance with the Indians. The one character I'm greatly intrigued by is Russia. I seem to recall you saying a while back that India and Russia are close allies, and that Russia would be more likely to come to India's aid before the US would do so. Is this accurate?

Moreover, I had a sobering conversation with a friend today. He said he is very sad and scared because of the real possibility that he will not be able to go to college due to being conscripted into the armed forces (he is only 17). Before any comments about millennials not wanting to do their duty he has repeatedly expressed interest into joining the armed forces, but after getting his college education.

I think it is important to remember, especially when tempted to bash millennials for all the negative stereotypes the media gives them, especially young millennial men, that it is precisely these "entitled" individuals who will be fighting for the survival of this great country, and since I am only 26 that will probably include myself.

Kyrie Eleison.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by John » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:38 am

jmm1184 wrote: > I guess I was meaning do you think the US is more likely to enter
> in fairly quickly, or would it take some time of political
> consideration or a direct attack to get us involved? After all, we
> waited two years to get involved in WWII.

> The other consideration is how long it would take other nations,
> namely Pakistan and Russia, to get involved. Do you think they
> would get involved quickly or would it take more direct
> provocation to get them involved?
It depends on what you mean by "get involved."

For example, in a war between India and China, the US might provide
satellite intelligence to India from day one.

Also, I read somewhere that India only has enough ammunition to last
30 days, so the US or Russia might start supplying ammunition right
away.

As today's article describes, the war might spread to the Indian Ocean
fairly quickly. It could also spread to Kashmir very quickly, with
Pakistan directly entering the war as combatant.

I would expect, within a few months, for a full-scale world war to be
in progress, with nuclear weapons being used.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by jmm1184 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:18 am

If you're asking me, I'm not a psychic, but I would assume a few weeks
to a few months.
I guess I was meaning do you think the US is more likely to enter in fairly quickly, or would it take some time of political consideration or a direct attack to get us involved? After all, we waited two years to get involved in WWII.

The other consideration is how long it would take other nations, namely Pakistan and Russia, to get involved. Do you think they would get involved quickly or would it take more direct provocation to get them involved?

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by Coordinated fires » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:20 pm

Guest wrote:The Indians will definitely fight, because if they don't push back now, they will wake up and find Eastern India cut off from New Delhi. This is a red line the Indians will never allow to be crossed. And this is where it gets really dangerous. China doesn't need to steal land from Bhutan to survive, but India needs to preserve the Silliguri Corridor because India has no choice but to defend it if it wants to preserve the country. India will fight. It's the Chinese who are miscalculating.
I wonder if this will embolden the dormant insurgency in Nagaland if they sense that India will be unable to project power into the eastern provinces, or if the Chinese will seek to use them to destabilize the eastern provinces.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by John » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:26 pm

jmm1184 wrote: > When China and India go to war, what do you think the immediate
> response of the international community will be, and how long will
> it take for other nations, particularly Pakistan, Russia, and the
> US to get involved?
If you're asking me, I'm not a psychic, but I would assume a few weeks
to a few months.

Re: 5-Aug-17 World View -- China further escalates the rhetoric threatening India over Doklam Plateau

by jmm1184 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:27 pm

When China and India go to war, what do you think the immediate response of the international community will be, and how long will it take for other nations, particularly Pakistan, Russia, and the US to get involved?

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