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Re: 11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by next367 » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:16 am

What do ordinary people? How to be?

Re: 11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by MarvyGuy » Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:10 pm

Neg rates will destroy the monetary system and be the vehicle to move the middle class down into the lower class. Either these guys are idiots or they know exactly what is going to happen. I tend to think the latter. Kuroda went neg right after Davos. If they win the war on cash they will effectively be able to control everything inside the system. To the black markets then.

Anyway this guy lost a boat and I am not even sure he can fit down the hatch anyway as I think 18in used to be the min. Hopefully they make them in XXL! And get some paint while he is at it.
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Re: 11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by John » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:07 am

vincecate wrote: > There is good reason to believe the velocity of money is a
> function of the interest rate and inflation rate. If there is no
> inflation and no interest, money moves really slow. At some point
> there will be inflation and higher interest rates. At least I
> think this is certain. To me the hard question is just the
> "when".

> More on velocity and source of above graph here:
> http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc141103.htm
There's no reason whatsoever to believe that. Imagine a woman saying
to herself, "Gee, the Fed just announced a new interest rate, and CNBC
just reported the latest interest rate, so I think I'll buy that new
pair of shoes." That's total fantasy.

What Hussman has done is to mash together decades of data that isn't
even comparable, since it comes from different generational eras, and
he's managed to make a simple concept as complex and ununderstandable
as he can with two ridiculous charts.

My chart makes it crystal clear what's going on:

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The reason why you don't see a chart like this anywhere is because it
makes it too clear what's going on. Economists make their money by
referencing obscure statistics with little meaning, and then don't
respect generational boundaries, so they're even more meaningless.

Here's another chart you never see:

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CNBC and Bloomberg talk all the time about stock valuations, and yet
I've never seen any chart of P/E ratio versus time.

And that's pretty remarkable. I've probably seen tens of thousands of
charts, graphing all kinds of obscure stuff, but incredibly not a
single time have they used one that graphs the P/E ratio over time.
Not one single time out of tens of thousands. Incredible!

And now we see the same thing with Hussman. Instead of graphing the
velocity of money over time, which would make it crystal clear what's
going on, he mashes together data in a graph that's almost totally
incomprehensible.

The velocity of money can be computed from the interest rate and the
inflation rate, or from the nominal GDP and the monetary base, but the
tail doesn't wag the dog. The velocity of money is organically
determined by the mood and behavior of generations of people, making
buy or don't-buy decisions without having the vaguest clue what the
nominal GDP and monetary base are.

Re: 11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by vincecate » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:18 am

John wrote:One thing is certain: The velocity of money has continued to plummet, and there are no signs that this trend will be reversed.
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There is good reason to believe the velocity of money is a function of the interest rate and inflation rate. If there is no inflation and no interest, money moves really slow. At some point there will be inflation and higher interest rates. At least I think this is certain. To me the hard question is just the "when".

More on velocity and source of above graph here:
http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc141103.htm

Re: 11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by vincecate » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:14 am

John wrote: South Korea's child dictator Kim Jong-un is a total loon ...
North Korea's child dictator.

11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

by John » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:19 pm

11-Mar-16 World View -- In desperation move, European Central Bank further lowers negative interest rates

North Korea liquidates all commercial projects with South Korea


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