30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

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Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by gerald » Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:17 pm

Tom Mazanec wrote:
Tom Mazanec wrote:We will find out very soon. Other countries in Africa cannot keep an ebola epidemic secret for long.
It is now almost two weeks since I posted that. I am becoming skeptical about John's scenario.

Who knows ---- time will tell -- how Ebola is spread may have many variables -- for an update , and for what it is worth --

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/ ... index.html
According to a WHO situation report released on November 12, transmission remains intense in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone, and case incidence is still increasing in Sierra Leone.

It may not be making the news because "journalists" have found something else to get excited about -- many tend to be shallow and midget minds. or http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/11/ ... demic.html

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by Tom Mazanec » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:50 pm

Tom Mazanec wrote:We will find out very soon. Other countries in Africa cannot keep an ebola epidemic secret for long.
It is now almost two weeks since I posted that. I am becoming skeptical about John's scenario.

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by jwfid » Sun Nov 02, 2014 8:59 pm

This article was posted originally at the Western Rifle Shooters Association. The article attempts to show that without some outside influence the exponential potential of Ebola is horrific. The chart that I've been thinking about shows Ebola infections reaching the population of the world, something like 7.5 billion by July 16, 2016. Now, I don't think this is possible, after all the author is just extrapolating, but it does give us some idea of what could happen. So John, I don't think you're missing anything.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/ ... from-wrsa/

I now think that Ebola can by controlled when all potential infections are known, but what happens when there are too many potential infections that the authorities cannot keep track of. At that point Ebola is out of control. All it would take is a few people crossing the border with Ebola and fail to recognize the symptoms in time before finally going to the hospital.

Joe

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by gerald » Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:40 pm

MarvyGuy wrote:
That is not relevant, we have an election in a few days, then we will talk about it , maybe.
Good point since elections mean nothing now. Nothing will change and the only thing left is to enjoy the show and wonder when they finally go full Brown Shirt.
Not to sound overly pessimistic, but this is getting to sound like the last days of Atlantis.

As was said then "enjoy the show" especially the panic of the masses.

cheers
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hmmm -- tin foil hat time

In the "Alien Interview" a comment was made by the "alien" --http://alieninterview.org/blog/ --- Alien Interview is now available as a printed book in Mandarin Chinese
and to paraphrase --- Since a spirit ( more commonly called a soul ) exists for an eternity. How does one deal with the boredom of existence? -- Simple, forget one exists for an eternity and create exciting events. Voila ( there it is ) current events!

Are you bored? or otherwise?
hmmmm

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by MarvyGuy » Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:37 pm

That is not relevant, we have an election in a few days, then we will talk about it , maybe.
Good point since elections mean nothing now. Nothing will change and the only thing left is to enjoy the show and wonder when they finally go full Brown Shirt.

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by Guest » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:54 am

The CDC deleted the article about how sneezing could spread Ebola from their website, so I guess we don't have that much to worry about...

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by NoOneImportant » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:15 pm

Within the past few days there has erupted a considerable controversy regarding whether the Ebola virus may infect via an infected aerosol being deposited on a common environmental surface, e.g. a door knob via a sneeze. The peer review literature has several examples of proximity, non-contact infection of non-human primates (NHP, monkeys) by other species of infected animals without the benefit of direct bodily fluid contact, or direct physical contact.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23155478
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8551825

While I here state clearly that I am not an epidemiologist, I also state that I am literate and capable of reading detailed research papers regarding the Ebola virus, and its effects. To that end the following veterinary research paper clearly deals with the jeopardy presented by an aerosolized Ebola environment infecting non-human primates (Rhesus Macaque monkeys). The article further presents the potential for weaponizing Ebola in an aerosol form.

Here I quote only from the article's Abstract, but the entire article is of interest and germane to the Ebola discussion. As Gerald has noted elsewhere, when the government may be depended upon to distort the truth, it is left to us to discern what the truth is. The linked article, as it deals with animal research, appears in Veterinary Pathology Online, and is dated 5/3/2013. The linked article is an update of two older article versions. For clarity, and understandability I have taken the liberty, in the quoted item below, of parenthetically giving a brief explanation of each technical biological term found in the quoted passage.

http://vet.sagepub.com/content/50/3/514.full.pdf+html

The authors of: Pathology of Experimental Aerosol Zaire Ebolavirus Infection in Rhesus Macaques, on 5/3/2013, in their Abstract wrote, and conclude:
Abstract
There is limited knowledge of the pathogenesis of human ebolavirus infections and no reported human cases acquired by the aerosol route. There is a threat of ebolavirus as an aerosolized biological weapon, and this study evaluated the pathogenesis of aerosol infection in 18 rhesus macaques. Important and unique findings include early infection of the respiratory lymphoid tissues (within the lymph system, originating in the lungs), early fibrin deposition in the splenic white pulp (early infection of the spleen), and perivasculitis (infecting the covering of blood vessels or lymph vessels) and vasculitis (inflammation of veins, arteries, capillaries, or lymph vessels), in superficial dermal blood vessels (blood vessels of the surface of the skin) of haired skin with rash. Initial infection occurred in the respiratory lymphoid tissues (lungs), fibroblastic reticular cells (cells associated with the formation of collagen, and immune response in the body), dendritic cells (A highly specialized white blood cell found in the skin, mucosa, and lymphoid tissues that initiates a primary immune response by activating lymphocytes), alveolar macrophages (lung cells that reside at the boundary between the body and the outside world, whose function is to clean incoming air, often called dust cells), and blood monocytes (white blood cells crucial to immune response). Virus spread to regional lymph nodes, where significant viral replication occurred. Virus secondarily infected many additional blood monocytes and spread from the respiratory tissues to multiple organs, including the liver and spleen.... ...This study provides unprecedented insights into pathogenesis of human aerosol Zaire ebolavirus infection and suggests development of a medical countermeasure to aerosol infection will be a great challenge due to massive early infection of respiratory lymphoid tissues. Rhesus macaques may be used as a model of aerosol infection that will allow the development of lifesaving medical countermeasures under the Food and Drug Administration’s animal rule.
Other research cited in one of my prior posts - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 4778.x/pdf -
noted that ebolavirus remains viable at low temperatures (4 degrees C) for up to 50 days; and remains viable at a 37% reduction on glass/plastic/metal in darkness after 15 hours at ambient temperatures of 20 - 25 decrees C.

Regarding the post infection persistence of the virus. An article in the Journal of Infectious Diseases describes an analysis of 12 recovered ebola patients from a 1995 outbreak in the Congo. The results were stunning: http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/1 ... /S170.long

In the Journal of Infectious Diseases the authors of: Persistence and Genetic Stability of Ebola Virus during the Outbreak in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo, 1995 wrote:
Abstract
Ebola virus persistence was examined in body fluids from 12 convalescent patients by virus isolation and reverse transcription-polymerase chain reaction (RT-PCR) during the 1995 Ebola hemorrhagic fever outbreak in Kikwit, Democratic Republic of the Congo. Virus RNA could be detected for up to 33 days in vaginal, rectal, and conjunctival swabs of 1 patient and up to 101 days in the seminal fluid of 4 patients. Infectious virus was detected in 1 seminal fluid sample obtained 82 days after disease onset.
The above quotes come directly from research papers evaluating the Zaire ebolavirus, there is no editing, there is no extrapolation -- the words come directly from the researcher's mouth, if you will. I have been more than just a bit critical in this forum of the Obama regime's competency and more importantly of its self serving dishonesty (lying). Lies are lies whether they pertain to unemployment figures, economic figures, politically motivated scandals, and most importantly medical infection rates, medical treatment, and medical risk. The willingness to distort objective raw data, to intentionally distort and mislead to obtain overt political gain boarders upon, IMO, the criminal. If you want un-jaded answers look to the researchers, its slow reading but as accurate as they see it.

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by gerald » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:49 pm

ISIS May Be Weaponizing Ebola, Spanish Government Warns

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-0 ... ment-warns

Furthermore, Mr Martinez, the second in command in Spain’s interior ministry, said investigators had identified ‘many examples’ of threats to use Ebola as a chemical weapon.

He pointed out three specific cases in which aspiring jihadis ‘linked to ISIS’ had used internet chat rooms to seriously discuss the viability of harnessing the deadly virus and other toxins as part of a new terrorism offensive, according to Spain’s RTVE media company.

One conversation, identified as having taken place between ISIS sympathisers in mid-September, referred to ‘the use of Ebola as a poisonous weapon against the United States,’ he claimed.

Another conversation reportedly saw militants working out how best to employ ‘deadly chemical products’ they had stolen from laboratories.

Mr Martinez went on to say that a spokesman for the terror group had also taken to the internet to urge supporters to kill Westerners by any means possible – adding that he had suggested ‘poisonous injections’ as a possible method.
Despite increasing evidence of biological attacks on the West, US Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson denied allegations of the Islamic State’s plans to use biological weapons. “We've seen no specific credible intelligence that [the Islamic State] is attempting to use any sort of disease or virus to attack our homeland,” Johnson said earlier in October.

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by gerald » Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:50 pm

MarvyGuy wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/leone-ebola-outbr ... 33151.html

Out of control and undercounted.
That is not relevant, we have an election in a few days, then we will talk about it , maybe.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2014/10/2 ... ch-claims/

"Md. Board of Elections Probe Republican-To-Democratic Ballot Switch Claims"
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Ah yes, good old Uncle Joe --
for what it is worth --

"Those who cast the votes decide nothing.
Those who count the votes decide everything."

Re: 30-Oct-14 World View -- WHO says Ebola in decline

by MarvyGuy » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:46 pm


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