22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength torture

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Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by gerald » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:29 pm

Yes----
The masses do not understand -- they will destroy those who make their life better, because those the do make the masses life better, are then denigrated for the ability to do so, because the masses can't for themselves, and those who do create, then live better then the masses, and the masses are then envious and destructive = socialism.
==== the lowest common denominator --- decent into hell for all good intentions.

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by NoOneImportant » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:48 pm

:D To those who may not know, Tom Perkins is one of the principals of Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield, and Byers - the world's largest venture capital company. Perkins wrote a short letter to the editor of the WSJ http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 3982034286

In Perkin's letter he appropriately sees the vicious attack on the wealthy in America as analogous to the Nazi attack on the Jews. An anonymous tweet from KPCB, done subsequent to Perkins letter to the WSJ, disavows any recent association of Perkins with KPCB. Perkins is, however, still liberally - no pun intended - represented on the KPCB web site. It is interesting to note that Al Gore is the VP of the Green division of KPCB. While I completely agree with Perkins - but no one but me cares - I am always a bit pleased when liberals are surprised when they get eaten by their own repression; perhaps karma is a wonderful thing, maybe Perkins should talk to Al Gore about the issue. What do you think Gerald?

Perkins aside, being presently technically, and practically poor I have to completely agree with Perkins and Gerald. The world is punctuated by a few simple facts: poor people do not employ anyone; they do not create value; they do not manufacture anything; they usually don't create great innovation; they don't create jobs; in short they don't build the desired world of the future, unless of course you desire to live in poverty. Perkins when I first came across his name - have never met him - was a working stiff at Hewlett Packard - if a division manager of a small instrument company can be considered a working stiff. At that time HP was a $300 million a year unknown instrument manufacturer divided into 8-10 manufacturing divisions; he - Perkins - was one of those division managers, he then left HP to pursue "other interests."

ERGO: KPCB :D

While I can't help with Gerald's pictures this should give a bit of background regarding the issues that Gerald broached.

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by gerald » Wed Jan 29, 2014 3:38 pm

John wrote:Gerald, providing a link to your e-mail message doesn't
make it accessible to anyone else.

John
sorry fat fingers

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by John » Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:23 pm

Gerald, providing a link to your e-mail message doesn't
make it accessible to anyone else.

John

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by gerald » Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:23 pm

Photos of useful idiots http://michellemalkin.com/2014/01/29/st ... h-shaming/

Also it has an interesting commentary on the letter written by Tom Perkins a Silicon Valley pioneer

"The State of the Job Creator is under siege.
Last week, a prominent self-made tech mogul dared to diagnose the problem publicly. His passionate letter to The Wall Street Journal decried the“progressive war on the American 1 percent.” He called on the left to stop demonizing “the rich,” and he condemned the Occupy movement’s “rising tide of hatred.”

and was attacked

"Because he dared to compare the seething resentment of modern progressives to Kristallnacht and Nazi Germany,"

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by at99sy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:56 am

Specifically on tests, the students must ask the questions about the topic where they feel information has been left out or what was not explained to their satisfaction. Any items that are unsupported in the text or the materials that we used are also good places for them to ask questions. I pick out the best ones and we discuss them in class. Often I have the students in small groups and together they are to come up with 4-5 questions that another group will answer. competition drives creativity, because no one wants to give another team easy questions.

sy

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by at99sy » Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:52 am

Marshall Kane wrote:
at99sy wrote:
NoOneImportant wrote:"Useful idiots," as Lenin referred to them, in the truest sense of the words.
This is exactly why they must be educated to look for real information, different perspectives, and most of all to ask difficult questions.
On all of my exams there is a portion where the student must ask thought provoking, or insightful questions about the subject. It takes some
training but they all get it eventually.

When they realize that another teacher has attempted to indoctrinate them with bs it is most heart warming moment.

cheers

sy
Hi Sy,

Interesting. May I ask how your frame this section of your exams?
Well I can tell you that it is no easy task. Students are rarely ever in the position to ask good questions, they are trained to answer them. So I start with the rationale that there are always at least two sides to an issue.
That any piece of writing will have a certain amount of bias to it regardless the author.
That some pieces of writing are all bias.
and if we only allow ourselves to read a text book prepared by a major publishing house to fit specific education models and criteria, or if we only get our news from FOX, CNN, MSNBC etc then we can only at best get one side of an issue which is at the least disrespectful of the oppositional point of view.
Sometimes we have mock arguments in class, or we will look at how rumors get spread etc. They usually buy into this pretty fast.
Then we start to look at heavily biased articles. not difficult to find, and we pull out all the statements that generalize and paint a particular image for or against a "topic" whatever it may be, such as abortion, obamacare it doesn't matter really for the exercise.
Then we will loo at those statements and frame questions around them.
Example statement: "Obamacare will lead to the destruction of the middle class and result in a prolonged period of economic disintegration for America."
we look to see if there is any support for the statement or if it is just hanging out there like a dirty sock. A question could be as simple as
"What data is available to portray obamacare as a negative influence on the nations economy?"
that is just a simple one but I teach them to look for unsupported statements, grandiose claims, one sided arguments, rhetoric, and tell them to be investigators. You need to either prove or disprove what this article or story claims. Other times we look at particular issues and they have to thoroughly explore the topic and create a portfolio0 of evidence that summarizes and explains the issue, create a timeline or sequence of events of it, major participants, cause-effect relationships, major influences, arguments for and against, pro's and con's and the whole time collect evidence from two oppositional perspectives. At the end they have to write their own private conclusion about the issue using evidence to support their POV. Then they have to present a brief to the class and get grilled by the students and myself.
Some get it quicker than others, some have a great difficulty coming to terms that there can even exist another point of view. take abortion and gay marriage for example. It has been an eye opening process for many of them. to do this you have to build a high level of trust with the kids and treat them with respect but also being firm when need be and holding them accountable. I have only had a handful of students who rebelled against this method of teaching. They tend to be absolute rote memory learners who really learn and understand very little they just want to memorize everything so they can do well on the test. I don't teach memorization games, consequently they don't like me. But that's okay I never have them again as a student. :) we're talking 1-2 per class out of 25-28.

Thank you for your interest. I hope this provides some insight into my teaching style.

cheers

Tomorrow I begin the second semester teaching two courses of Sociology which I have never taught before, but am very fond of. It plays very nicely with the class I created on Human behaviors and acts of Genocide.

SY

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by John » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:59 am

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by Marshall Kane » Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:31 am

at99sy wrote:
NoOneImportant wrote:"Useful idiots," as Lenin referred to them, in the truest sense of the words.
This is exactly why they must be educated to look for real information, different perspectives, and most of all to ask difficult questions.
On all of my exams there is a portion where the student must ask thought provoking, or insightful questions about the subject. It takes some
training but they all get it eventually.

When they realize that another teacher has attempted to indoctrinate them with bs it is most heart warming moment.

cheers

sy
Hi Sy,

Interesting. May I ask how your frame this section of your exams?

Re: 22-Jan-14 World View -- Assad's industrial strength tort

by gerald » Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:38 am

at99sy wrote:
NoOneImportant wrote:"Useful idiots," as Lenin referred to them, in the truest sense of the words.
This is exactly why they must be educated to look for real information, different perspectives, and most of all to ask difficult questions.
On all of my exams there is a portion where the student must ask thought provoking, or insightful questions about the subject. It takes some
training but they all get it eventually.

When they realize that another teacher has attempted to indoctrinate them with bs it is most heart warming moment.

cheers

sy
We need more like you

cheers

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