by tim » Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:55 am
spottybrowncow wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:22 am
tim wrote: ↑Wed Apr 24, 2024 6:56 am
I believe the Chinese are going to take Hawaii and land on the West Coast of North America. Maybe in Canada and Mexico.
Tim I have trouble conceiving of this happening without all the nuclear bombs (everyone's) being used. While being invaded might not be "business as usual" in Eurasia, it's happened quite a bit over the years. Modern America, not so much. I think we would be more than willing to blow up the world if it came to that. Doesn't that change things?
America is around 250 years old. That isn't a long enough time span to say America can't be invaded by a foreign power.
The southern border has been wide open for years and there are probably hundreds of thousands of Chinese agents already here. It wouldn't be that hard for them to take out infrastructure and cause chaos.
Look at the problems that happen from a mass shooting from a lone gunman. Imagine what trained Chinese soldiers could do with modern military equipment.
https://jrnyquist.blog/2024/04/19/strat ... immy-alex/
JRN: Many analysts here in the West are concerned about Chinese young men of military age crossing the U.S. border illegally. Is the CCP placing special forces in the U.S. secretly? Are they doing this in preparation for a future war, or is it merely in preparation for sabotage operations?
LUDE: I have talked about this since January 2023. The CCP is trying to infiltrate 250,000 military personnel into the United States. They want these people in place when the war begins – to attack water systems and military bases.
JRN: How many of these 250,000 military personnel sent to the United States as infiltrators are expected to remain loyal to the CC? If they are left here too long, won’t they be corrupted by the American way of life?
LUDE: If you betray China, you get serious punishment. First, they control who gets out of China and who goes to America. They have hostages back in China. If they smell any betrayal, you can suffer the effects of Party discipline. So, under such a strict system, it is very hard to break free. The entire operation to infiltrate America with troops is carefully organized. It is organized around a kind of Ho Chi Minh Trail for China, as in the Vietnam War. This Ho Chi Minh Trail runs through Mexico to the U.S. border.
JRN: Don’t the Chinese strategists worry about Chinese defectors from the 250,000 going over to the Americans and exposing the entire plan? What makes them so confident and bold as to try something so dangerous?
LUDE: First, 250,000 is a large number. Think of various cities in the United States. They have batch after batch of troops infiltrating America’s southern border. These troops will not show themselves openly in the USA. So, the Americans will not notice. Their mission is to force the U.S. to lose control over its own society. As long as government control is broken, the dollar system will be crushed. The key thing is to create chaos on U.S. soil. Unless you defeat the dollar system, which backs up the American military, you have no chance.
When the war starts I expect the Chinese military to quickly overwhelm our defenses similar to how France fell to Germany during WWII. France was gearing up to re fight WWI and the French military was led by old men who didn't see the merits in new technology. At the time, the French military was considered the strongest in the world.
There are some similarities to France before WWII and America. Check out
The Collapse of the Third Republic: An Inquiry into the Fall of France in 1940 by William L. Shirer.
The Chinese have planned to use nukes and will use them. They have openly stated this multiple times. Why do people not believe them when they say what their plans are? I don't know. Why didn't people believe Hitler when he said what his plans were when he wrote Mein Kampf?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/ ... athanwatts
Speaking at a lecture arranged by the foreign ministry and attended by several foreign correspondents on Thursday, Mr Zhu said China was prepared to initiate non-conventional warfare over Taiwan. "War logic dictates that a weaker power needs to use maximum efforts to defeat a stronger rival," he was reported as saying by the New York Times.
"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons."
Echoing threats last made in 1995, Mr Zhu, who has a reputation as a hawk in Chinese military circles, said his country was ready to sustain heavy casualties in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and other heavily populated areas.
"We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian," he said. "Of course, the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese."
Although Mr Zhu said war was unlikely, his proposal that China should adopt a first-strike nuclear option against the US will alarm the Pentagon.
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[quote=tim post_id=86782 time=1713956204 user_id=2211]I believe the Chinese are going to take Hawaii and land on the West Coast of North America. Maybe in Canada and Mexico.
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Tim I have trouble conceiving of this happening without all the nuclear bombs (everyone's) being used. While being invaded might not be "business as usual" in Eurasia, it's happened quite a bit over the years. Modern America, not so much. I think we would be more than willing to blow up the world if it came to that. Doesn't that change things?
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America is around 250 years old. That isn't a long enough time span to say America can't be invaded by a foreign power.
The southern border has been wide open for years and there are probably hundreds of thousands of Chinese agents already here. It wouldn't be that hard for them to take out infrastructure and cause chaos.
Look at the problems that happen from a mass shooting from a lone gunman. Imagine what trained Chinese soldiers could do with modern military equipment.
[url]https://jrnyquist.blog/2024/04/19/strategic-intentions-commentary-followed-by-interview-with-lude-media-plus-jimmy-alex/[/url]
[quote]JRN: Many analysts here in the West are concerned about Chinese young men of military age crossing the U.S. border illegally. Is the CCP placing special forces in the U.S. secretly? Are they doing this in preparation for a future war, or is it merely in preparation for sabotage operations?
LUDE: I have talked about this since January 2023. The CCP is trying to infiltrate 250,000 military personnel into the United States. They want these people in place when the war begins – to attack water systems and military bases.
JRN: How many of these 250,000 military personnel sent to the United States as infiltrators are expected to remain loyal to the CC? If they are left here too long, won’t they be corrupted by the American way of life?
LUDE: If you betray China, you get serious punishment. First, they control who gets out of China and who goes to America. They have hostages back in China. If they smell any betrayal, you can suffer the effects of Party discipline. So, under such a strict system, it is very hard to break free. The entire operation to infiltrate America with troops is carefully organized. It is organized around a kind of Ho Chi Minh Trail for China, as in the Vietnam War. This Ho Chi Minh Trail runs through Mexico to the U.S. border.
JRN: Don’t the Chinese strategists worry about Chinese defectors from the 250,000 going over to the Americans and exposing the entire plan? What makes them so confident and bold as to try something so dangerous?
LUDE: First, 250,000 is a large number. Think of various cities in the United States. They have batch after batch of troops infiltrating America’s southern border. These troops will not show themselves openly in the USA. So, the Americans will not notice. Their mission is to force the U.S. to lose control over its own society. As long as government control is broken, the dollar system will be crushed. The key thing is to create chaos on U.S. soil. Unless you defeat the dollar system, which backs up the American military, you have no chance.[/quote]
When the war starts I expect the Chinese military to quickly overwhelm our defenses similar to how France fell to Germany during WWII. France was gearing up to re fight WWI and the French military was led by old men who didn't see the merits in new technology. At the time, the French military was considered the strongest in the world.
There are some similarities to France before WWII and America. Check out [u]The Collapse of the Third Republic: An Inquiry into the Fall of France in 1940[/u] by William L. Shirer.
The Chinese have planned to use nukes and will use them. They have openly stated this multiple times. Why do people not believe them when they say what their plans are? I don't know. Why didn't people believe Hitler when he said what his plans were when he wrote Mein Kampf?
[url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/jul/16/china.jonathanwatts[/url]
[quote]Speaking at a lecture arranged by the foreign ministry and attended by several foreign correspondents on Thursday, Mr Zhu said China was prepared to initiate non-conventional warfare over Taiwan. "War logic dictates that a weaker power needs to use maximum efforts to defeat a stronger rival," he was reported as saying by the New York Times.
"If the Americans draw their missiles and position-guided ammunition on to the target zone on China's territory, I think we will have to respond with nuclear weapons."
Echoing threats last made in 1995, Mr Zhu, who has a reputation as a hawk in Chinese military circles, said his country was ready to sustain heavy casualties in Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and other heavily populated areas.
"We Chinese will prepare ourselves for the destruction of all of the cities east of Xian," he said. "Of course, the Americans will have to be prepared that hundreds of cities will be destroyed by the Chinese."
Although Mr Zhu said war was unlikely, his proposal that China should adopt a first-strike nuclear option against the US will alarm the Pentagon.[/quote]