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Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by guest » Sat Jun 22, 2024 9:07 pm

The Lincoln Project is a hard-left propaganda site with no credibility at all. You may as well quote the Southern Poverty Law Center - they are about as believable.

Re: MAGA

by Bob Butler » Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:49 pm

Guest wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:54 am
Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:56 am
Should rape, theft, lies and the rest be honored? Should we select a master of such art forms as our leader?
We are already led by these people - see $17M plus in sexual harassment payouts for members of Congress. I’d like to see that list. Considering how Biden sniffs and gropes young girls and boys in public settings, probability is high that he’s on it.
Source? That sounds like a conspiracy theory, which is MAGAese for lie. Did you make that up or copy it from somewhere else? Will you identify yourself enough by creating a user name, or is there some reason to remain anonymous as you defame people?

I can confirm it was the Lincoln Project, with a copy of it on YouTube.

Re: MAGA

by Guest » Sat Jun 22, 2024 10:54 am

Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:56 am
Should rape, theft, lies and the rest be honored? Should we select a master of such art forms as our leader?
We are already led by these people - see $17M plus in sexual harassment payouts for members of Congress. I’d like to see that list. Considering how Biden sniffs and gropes young girls and boys in public settings, probability is high that he’s on it.

Re: MAGA

by Bob Butler » Sat Jun 22, 2024 5:56 am

Guest X wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:58 pm
You get the idea. Only the wrong kinds of people and their belief systems get their values downgraded to molecules and constructs -- this deconstruction is never applied to the sacred cows of Progressive Liberalism itself.
I think it was the Lincoln Project that recently went down the Ten Commandments and suggested Trump violated all of them. The basic ideas of behaving decently have been known far before progressive liberalism. We're just a more secular society of late and express the ideas differently. Not lying, coveting, stealing and the rest has been around for quite a while.

So what is your point? Should rape, theft, lies and the rest be honored? Should we select a master of such art forms as our leader?

Re: MAGA

by Guest X » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:58 pm

Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:48 am
Guest wrote:
Mon Jun 17, 2024 9:05 am
Is it fair to say that one person plus msnbc and the mainstream media form your opinion of Trump supporters? That would explain things.
I guess the short answer likely to find its way into future history books is that MAGA was an alliance of convenience between religious fanatics, bigots and elites, each with an ability to ignore the other's flaws. The religious fanatics lost the woman's vote, thus the ability to win elections. The bigots lost their habit of large scale violent protest after January 6. The elites noticed the opposition's favorable economic indicators. Crisis end. We'll see.
What strikes me about this liberal, scientism attitude of the lowest common denominator (it's just stuff!) is how hypocritical and contradictory it is. Are the megalithic structures of Great Zimbabwe just a pile of rocks, too? Something tells me that vandalism there would not be taken so lightly; it's only Western monuments that get this treatment. More than that, is Ukraine just a bunch of dirt? Are racial slurs just vowels and consonants? Is online "disinformation" and "harassment" a bunch of 1's and 0's? Is democracy a meaningless social construct? Is slavery just another form of labor, rape another kind of sex? We're just animals, right? Or are we just carbon and water? If so, does that include BIPOC & LGBTQWERTY?

You get the idea. Only the wrong kinds of people and their belief systems get their values downgraded to molecules and constructs -- this deconstruction is never applied to the sacred cows of Progressive Liberalism itself.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by El jefe » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:49 pm

Iraq and Libya have no effective central government and are ruled by regional caudillos. Um, how is this better? Not to mention that in Afghanistan, the Taliban are now the moderates! With ISIS and a dozen other ever more extreme groups vying for power.

If you voted Bush, you voted for the West's destruction.

Thanks, guys.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:33 pm

navigator1 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:49 pm
Regarding US middle eastern interventions since 1990s - I also disagree with how these wars were prosecuted. In each case, we should have installed some kind of strong man - then left as quickly as possible. It was NEVER going to be possible to convert these places to democracies. Their cultures would not allow it.

But WHEN the US is attacked by the China-Russia-NorthKorea-Iran alliance, we will need to defend it. As bad as things are politically and culturally in the US, it would be immeasurably WORSE if XI and Putin were in charge of the world.
We should never have invaded Iraq. America kicked the cage open and flooded Europe with violent refugees. It was all pointless. A war based on lies which led America to curtail freedoms at home and legalized torture! America bec ame hated, which it was NOT before.

Saddam understood the situation and maintained Sunni minority control over a Shite majority. NOW we have a SHIA cresent across the Middle East. We destroyed ourselves physically, financially, and spiritually in the BUSH/Cheney wars. Was it worth it? Saddam WAS THE STRONG MAN. Now Iraq is a warlord state ruled by no one in particular...

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Guest » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:26 pm

navigator1 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:27 pm
North Korea could indeed send substantial numbers (as I stated) to try to tip the balance to Russia's favor.

I'm not some solitary voice about this. Here is a public article that alludes to it (see second paragraph)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... -Kyiv.html

North Koreans aren't going to surrender en-masse. They are too brainwashed. Plus the regime will threaten to torture to death the families of anybody who does. [As a point of reference, the Chinese committed almost 3Million troops into Korea in the Korean War. Only about 20,000 surrendered]

We are indeed facing an alliance of China-Russia-North Korea-Iran. IMHO, we are going to see Asian troops of this alliance in Ukraine, if not Europe. If Ukraine falls, the Russians are not going to stop. The one thing Europe doesn't have to defend itself is manpower.
In 1950, the PLA was a battle hardened, victorious, and wildly patriotic and enthusiastic fighting force. Today, the PLA is untested and filled with dregs. A huge difference.

North Koreans working overseas are constantly monitored because they are always trying to escape from work sites. the average North Korean is aware of the South's overwhelming prosperity.

I agree, Western Europe is WEAK and filled with worthless, freeloading illlegals and benefit scroungers.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by Trevor » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:11 pm

Out of the roughly three million troops that China sent to fight in the Korean war, between 600,000-900,000 died from the fighting. At the time, they possessed the fanaticism necessary, not to mention Mao didn't care how many he lost, given tens of millions died from the Great Leap Forward.

Putin might be able to claim something of a victory, but his war has lasted for 28 months. When it broke out, almost everyone expected it to be a Russian Desert Storm, myself included. Our aid for the first several months was designed for an insurgency, not a slugging match. Given their losses are around 120-150,000, with twice as many wounded, that's a serious blow to Russia's young men. Taking into account the number of deaths we can confirm with names, it's not much lower for Ukraine, and they have a much smaller population.

Since the end of the Cold War, our military has been designed for sharp, decisive conflicts, or ongoing insurgencies. The idea of a total war still isn't something we consider, and while we do have the capability to rebuild, this would take time. Good news is: China's likely to have the same issue. The bad news is, they're already starting, supporting Russia under the table.

North Korea's desperately poor, but they have a massive military. 200-300,000 troops in Ukraine might not be easy to support, but they have the troops to spare. It's taken longer than it did during the previous world wars, but I do agree that the Ukrainian invasion will lead to a larger conflict.

It's not only a proxy war between Russia and NATO, it's becoming a proxy war between China and Europe, North and South Korea, and even various conflicts in the Middle East and Africa.

Re: Generational Dynamics World View News

by navigator1 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:49 pm

Regarding US middle eastern interventions since 1990s - I also disagree with how these wars were prosecuted. In each case, we should have installed some kind of strong man - then left as quickly as possible. It was NEVER going to be possible to convert these places to democracies. Their cultures would not allow it.

But WHEN the US is attacked by the China-Russia-NorthKorea-Iran alliance, we will need to defend it. As bad as things are politically and culturally in the US, it would be immeasurably WORSE if XI and Putin were in charge of the world.

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