Reading your posting, one might think that I made the whole thing up.
And yet there they were, Cameron and Salmond, the other day agreeing
to a referendum vote on Scotland's independence. So there must be
something going on.
Tannosk wrote:
> But regarding the current situation I will bring you up. You
> describe the differences between Scots and English in religious
> terms, which makes no sense because there is no significant
> religious difference between English and Scots. Your examples are
> groups that are or have relatively recently been engaged in
> fighting one another - yet there is no violent animosity between
> English and Scots and there is no significant chance that the
> independence referendum will result any form of armed conflict or
> dispute. If you're trying to analyse English and Scots in the same
> way as Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics you're going to
> misunderstand what's going on.
From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, people don't go to
war because of religion. They use religion as an excuse for why they
were going to war anyway. As I sometimes like to say, "It's not that
religion causes war; it's that war causes religion."
So the fight in Ireland isn't over religion either. It's an ethnic
conflict between indigenous Gaelic Irish people versus descendants
of invading English and Scottish people.
I'm aware of the polls that say that most Scots don't want
independence. But from the point of view of Generational Dynamics,
nationalism is growing almost everywhere in the world, in countries
going deeper into a generational Crisis era, and so the polls from
previous years are almost completely irrelevant. If Scotland follows
the trend of other countries and regions -- Catalonia, China, for
example -- then nationalism will continue to increase, though the
"target" of the nationalism may change as the world's situation
changes. We'll see.
Reading your posting, one might think that I made the whole thing up.
And yet there they were, Cameron and Salmond, the other day agreeing
to a referendum vote on Scotland's independence. So there must be
something going on.
[quote="Tannosk"]
> But regarding the current situation I will bring you up. You
> describe the differences between Scots and English in religious
> terms, which makes no sense because there is no significant
> religious difference between English and Scots. Your examples are
> groups that are or have relatively recently been engaged in
> fighting one another - yet there is no violent animosity between
> English and Scots and there is no significant chance that the
> independence referendum will result any form of armed conflict or
> dispute. If you're trying to analyse English and Scots in the same
> way as Irish Protestants and Irish Catholics you're going to
> misunderstand what's going on.[/quote]
From the point of view of Generational Dynamics, people don't go to
war because of religion. They use religion as an excuse for why they
were going to war anyway. As I sometimes like to say, "It's not that
religion causes war; it's that war causes religion."
So the fight in Ireland isn't over religion either. It's an ethnic
conflict between indigenous Gaelic Irish people versus descendants
of invading English and Scottish people.
I'm aware of the polls that say that most Scots don't want
independence. But from the point of view of Generational Dynamics,
nationalism is growing almost everywhere in the world, in countries
going deeper into a generational Crisis era, and so the polls from
previous years are almost completely irrelevant. If Scotland follows
the trend of other countries and regions -- Catalonia, China, for
example -- then nationalism will continue to increase, though the
"target" of the nationalism may change as the world's situation
changes. We'll see.