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Trump chasing Secretariat?

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Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 2:23 pm
Secretariat starts to pull away at about 1:15 in the 1973 Belmont Stakes.
Actually, Secretariat and Sham pulled away from the bulk of the field earlier than that, well through the first turn. Sham just couldn't maintain the fast pace, eventually falling back into the pack.

We'll just have to see who can be compared to Secretariat and Sham in 2024. In a lot of ways Biden and Trump have pulled away from the field early, two running an absurd pace, just like in the 1973 Belmont. We'll have to see if the 14th Amendment kicks in, or if the various trials convict. If either happens, we may be looking for another metaphor, or maybe not.

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spottybrowncow wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:48 am
Maybe we could lure this guy here from Argentina to straighten out our mess:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/11/l ... president/
spottybrowncow wrote:
Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:22 pm
After the recent win in Argentina, we have another "shocker":

https://apnews.com/article/netherlands- ... 5cab333fcf
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https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/a ... 0FINAL.pdf

The US appears to be fair game for a similar outcome. Spain and Sweden may be ripe. And many others.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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This was forwarded when the Family buried silver. After the implosion and seizures of accounts they bought a modest grain grinder to bake bake
bread and the Village recovered. The new Bakers served the community in humility and did well with others. Argentina.

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"Could you give examples of a progressive group advocating a form of slavery? 'I will stick a pole up your ass' sounds more like you than a progressive group. It is tempting when you can’t win a logical argument to make up an absurd lie about the other guys. Tempting, but not relevant."


https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/highe ... ewed-study

Hey Bob, here's a pole from your side.

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jcsok wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:11 pm
"Could you give examples of a progressive group advocating a form of slavery? 'I will stick a pole up your ass' sounds more like you than a progressive group. It is tempting when you can’t win a logical argument to make up an absurd lie about the other guys. Tempting, but not relevant."


https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/highe ... ewed-study

Hey Bob, here's a pole from your side.
Worth reading the whole article. It explains that most such studies have the opposite result, and suggests why this study had a different one.

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FullMoon wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:55 pm
Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:49 am
There needs to be a limit as to how much extreme liberal buffoonery can be tolerated here.

This is a Mixer, but it shouldn't be all extreme liberal buffoonery, all the time. Perhaps 10 percent typical liberal buffoonery for illustrative purposes would suffice. No more than 10 percent I would say.

Serious topics still need consideration and should not be crowded out with extreme liberal buffoonery.
Bob is skillful at shit slinging and insults. That's a big part of why he trolls this forum. His trolling has been tiresome for a long while. I've called multiple times for his account deletion. Just don't feed the troll because he relishes the cultural destruction of our country and works tirelessly for his cause.
I find you tend to be weak on arguments of logic and fact, and overly ready to switch to insults. I am trying to stick with the former, but it is difficult with some.

Actually, what I relish is that the progressive side tends to triumph in S&H crises. On issues like colonial imperialism, noble privilege, slavery and containment, the new values introduced as solutions in the crisis and set home in the high are good ones. Mind you, the conservatives of past crises generally fought for different values than today. I don't see anyone here that wants the US to be a colony again, or return minorities into literal slaves. Still, prejudice against equality is a common theme.

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Cost of Equity = Risk-Free Rate + (Beta× ERP) + Country Risk Premium

Probability of conclusion is clear. Bob Bish zones have no clue other than burn loot murder as the economy in 2024 shows its abilty
to consumers who a re the ruthless arbiters. The swot kids call this quality of life as the lefttards drown in the bullshit.
Side show is just getting going into x date of 2024 we forward as march sweeps.
Nope they do not understand. The Emory test was clear for those who did pay attention.

We will see going forward who the smart kids are as 21 nuclear more reactors being built for nuclear energy in AGILE maps
China has a goal of reaching net zero by 2060. If I read the report correct even the South American leftists sold the alternative
energy protects going under bankrupting them. Within the scope of the capitalization process,
Eletrobras had its participation in the thermonuclear projects Angra 1, Angra 2.
Americans are still window licking on the short bus more contend.

Prejudice against equality is a common theme. Crayon chewer as you will be in a rental mud hut sooner than you will think.
As the crayon chunks fall out of there mouth the Semites are anti semiting themselves.
Left behind in rubble heading mud huts if that lucky. In another zone it was said China Slows, India Grows"
Indian Economy Gains Momentum in Asia. Rhetoric abounds watch the direct cash flows and what retards has to brrrrrr.

Inflation is still well above norms, deficits remain high and Washington are unaccountable spending whores.

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Democrats know their system is on the verge of being destroyed: Newt Gingrich
Fox News
24 Nov 2023

FOX News contributor Newt Gingrich discusses the growing worldwide movement against left-wing, radical socialists

[00:00:00]

Joining me now is Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the House and Fox News Contributor. Newt, Trump as Hitler, Trump as Stalin, Trump as whatever dictator comes to mind that really is their campaign, along with the abortion fear mongering, which they did, they believe, to some success in the last election a few weeks ago. What do you anticipate happening here on out?

[00:00:28]

Well, I think the only thing I disagree with in your general explanation is that this is about their survival. This is literally the behavior of an entire system which understands that it's on the verge of being destroyed. They're looking at what happened in Italy. They're looking at what just happened this last week in Argentina. There is a worldwide movement against left wing radical socialist values. You look at Hungary, I mean, again and again average everyday people are saying, no, we don't want this. You look at the numbers for Trump right now, they get bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think what you're seeing on the left is a desperation that's literally a survival function. We've never seen this maybe the south in 1860, but other than that, we have never seen this level of desperation in American politics. And it's going to get worse. They have a candidate who's hopeless. I mean, if you watch Joe Biden, you know he's not going to win and they can't get rid of him. They have a situation where their opponent is getting stronger and better and more disciplined, and I think that leads to a very explosive moment in American history.

[00:01:54]

But Newt, don't you also see that their drive, this bloodlust they seem to have with putting Trump in jail, I think they believe that's key to their survival, too. They have to put him in jail before this election because nothing else is working. The Hitler routine isn't working.

[00:02:12]

Obviously.

[00:02:13]

People are just laughing at that, wow.

[00:02:16]

And putting him in jail won't work either. But the problem they've got is I don't know how it happened. I'm writing a Seriously American Spectator. I have to confess, I'm not quite sure how we get to where we are today because it's hard to understand how the modern left somehow went through this permutation, this almost mutant behavior where they're now so radically isolated. They're losing African Americans, they're losing Latinos in the most recent poll. They're losing young Americans. They're losing Asian Americans. I mean, all the groups they thought they could count on are thinking these guys are nuts and they're not going to vote for them. And they know they're nuts because of pain. Pain in terms of fentanyl and crime, pain in terms of the price of living, pain in terms of the number of immigrants crossing on the border. Every time they turn around, they see an incompetent president who's clearly beyond his his due date. A reasonable Democratic party, if it still existed, and it doesn't, would in fact insist that Joe Biden step down there is no Democratic Party that can do that, and he's not going to step down. And if he did, they'd get Kamala Harris, because in their party, in their particular universe, you cannot defeat a black woman.

[00:03:46]

Well, Newt, I got to say, I've seen desperation before in politics, but what they're saying about Trump wanting to execute people, he's going to execute his political mean, I think they've completely I hate to say someone's lost his or her mind on another cable network, but I don't know how else you describe that. That's where they are. That's the Democrat. But what happened to hope and change? What happened to all the optimism that the Democrats offered?

[00:04:19]

Look, last week I was in a meeting with a formerly moderate Republican, very sophisticated, very nice guy, somebody I like personally. And as we talked about Trump, he became so totally demonically, convinced that this is the end of his world. I mean, the language I couldn't argue with him because the language was so emotional. It was like dealing with a person who was literally beyond self control. And I think that's what you're seeing 20 or 30% of the country now is in a mood of literally being out of touch with reality. They're very totally convinced they're right and terrified.
https://www.happyscribe.com/public/fox- ... t-gingrich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYNri9gTQNY
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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I think Newt gets the pain thing right.
Newt Gingrich wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:36 pm
I mean, all the groups they thought they could count on are thinking these guys are nuts and they're not going to vote for them. And they know they're nuts because of pain. Pain in terms of fentanyl and crime, pain in terms of the price of living, pain in terms of the number of immigrants crossing on the border.
I've previously talked about how the Clinton and Obama Democrats primarily, as well as other Democrats, deliberately engineered what amounts to a lot of social pain through job losses. The covid lockdowns were an addition to the matrix of deliberate attempts to engineer social pain and are just referenced below in passing.

Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:11 pm
Anne Case: And on the other side of the room, literally, I was looking at pain and that every year in the National Health Interview Survey, we get pretty good battery of questions on pain. And that from the 1990s onward, people were reporting more and more pain every year. And so, that was sort of the very beginning of it.
Angus Deaton: But there's a nexus of all these things going together. I mean, one of the things when Anne and I were on different sides of the room back in 2013, which we covered fairly early on, was that across space, pain and suicide are very closely correlated with one another.

So, pain predicts suicide better than guns predicts suicide, for example --
Angus Deaton: -- I mean. And so, that's a really big deal. And also, as Anne was saying there, there's this social pain. You know, I think the pain guys now don't think of it in this Cartesian way of, I hurt my foot. It's more of the all pain is in the brain and it can come from social exclusion and social distress just as much as it can come from physical injury.

And, you know, there's this other thing beyond the pain, when you begin to look at people's marriages, you know, you begin to look at their attachment to institutions like churches and so on. The whole decline, the Putnam stuff of the decline in social capital, that is all adversely affecting people at the same time, too.

So, you just get this horrible mess. And, you know, there are a lot of causal chains going on here. And some of it, of course, has got to be traceable back to the loss of employment opportunities, the loss of good jobs for people who don't have a college degree, for example.
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-podcast/why ... s-n1305967

The "Putnam stuff of the decline in social capital" that he mentions was discussed starting here: http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... nam#p77781

Also, in the interview, they mention the possibility of Civil War in the US due to the class divide. I've previously said Civil War is not possible in the US due to the racial divide because experiences across the US are too variable. However, with regard to class, experiences are uniform across the US because they were deliberately engineered by the Clinton and Obama Democrats to be that way.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:54 am
Angus Deaton is describing the social pain that comes from not having a strong connection to employment. He is referring to the US workers who don't have college degrees. A lot of their jobs that help maintain a positive self-image were moved offshore via free trade agreements, destroyed by various types of regulations promoted by corporate lobbyists, destroyed by Wal-Mart as small retail businesses and downtowns were destroyed, destroyed by bailouts to large corporations who require college degrees in their job descriptions even when not necessary, destroyed by covid lockdowns, etc.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:35 pm
For the jobs that remained in the country, many of which were occupied by people with college degrees, but weren't in, let's say, the top 10 percent, there was also lots of social pain purposely created, but in a different way. Most humans are very, very susceptible to social pain and humiliation. The primary job of "red dot" who is described in the second snippet above, was to create social pain and humiliation.
I've previously mentioned that Hillary Clinton was on the board of Wal-Mart for 7 years or so.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:25 am
Hillary Clinton was on the Wal-Mart board of directors from 1986 to 1992 back when she was in Arkansas.

MOYERS: I was watching that Wal-Mart piece, I was reminded that at one time Hillary Clinton was on the board of the Wal-Mart corporation, and...if the Democratic Party is not, and the Republican Party is not speaking for the people like that who lost their jobs or lost their pension plans or lost their savings in the recent corporate debacles, who is speaking for them now?

LAPHAM: No organized political force.
http://www.pbs.org/now/printable/transc ... print.html

Now there's Donald Trump.
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UNDERSTANDING HOW WE ARE LINKED TO MODERN SLAVERY THROUGH THE PRODUCTS WE BUY

While estimating prevalence of modern slavery where it occurs is critical in identifying where the need for intervention is greatest and most pressing, it does not paint a complete picture of where responsibility lies.

Although the highest prevalence of forced labour is found in low-income countries, it is deeply connected to demand from higher-income countries. The production and movement of goods between countries – from the sourcing of raw materials to manufacturing, packaging, and transportation – creates complex and opaque supply chains, many of them tainted with forced labour.

In 2021, G20 countries imported US$468 billion worth of goods at-risk of modern slavery. We present breakdowns of the top five highest-value at-risk products imported by each G20 country.
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https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/
Nearly every government in the world has committed to eradicating modern slavery through their national legislation and policies, yet progress has largely stagnated since 2018.
An estimated 50 million people were living in modern slavery on any given day in 2021, an increase of 10 million people since 2016.
Generally, my guess would be that graphs of energy per capita and prevalence of slavery will be mirror images.

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Energy per capita on the top, prevalence of slavery on the bottom, the x axis being time and the red horizontal line being where we are now.

All this provided a more concentrated form of energy is not on the horizon anytime soon.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:26 pm
As you recall – and as we’ll discuss in greater detail as the course goes on – every American has over 250 invisible energy slaves working 24/7 for them. (52 That is, the labor equivalent of 250 human workers, 24/7, every day of the year, mostly derived from burning fossil carbon and hydrocarbons (60 barrel of oil equivalents of oil, coal and natural gas, X 4.5 years of human labor energy output in each). Every American thus has a veritable army of invisible servants, which is why even those below the official poverty line live, for the most part, lives far more comfortable and lavish with respect to energy and stuff than kings and queens of old (but obviously not as high in social status). Being long dead and pulled from the ground – and thus a bit zombie-esque – these energy slaves don’t complain, don’t sleep, and don’t need to be fed. However, as we are increasingly learning, they do inhale, exhale, and leave behind waste. Since they’re invisible, we don’t think about these fossil helpers any more than we think about nitrogen (which happens to be 78% of what we breathe in, but hey, it’s just “there”, so why think about it?) Same with our 250 energy helpers. The extent we think about them is when we fill up at the pump or pay our electric bill – and then only as an outlay of our limited dollars.

We use the “slave” metaphor because it’s really a very good one, despite its pejorative label. Energy slaves do exactly the sort of things that human slaves and domestic animals previously did: things that fulfilled their masters’ needs and whims. And they do them faster. And cheaper. Indeed, it probably wasn’t a big coincidence that the world (and the USA) got around to freeing most of its human slaves only once industrialization started offering cheaper carbon labor replacements.
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2017 ... -largesse/
Thing is, the energy slaves will soon be going away forever. In the last 30 years we’ve burned a third of all fossil energy that has been used since it was discovered thousands of years ago.58 Since your authors have been alive, humans have used more energy than in the entire 300,000 year history of homo sapiens.59 We are just now passing through the all-time peak of liquid hydrocarbon availability, which is the chief driver of our economies we’re heading back into times – either gradually or suddenly, but inexorably – in which human labor makes up an increasing percentage of the total energy we have available. One day human (and perhaps animal) labor will again be the majority of the work done in human societies – just like it is in an anthill.
Sadly, there are about 50 million people today who are actually slaves, 9 million more than in 2016 according to a new report published by the UN’s labor agency, with 27.6 million doing forced labor, and 22 million in forced marriage or sex trade (Saric 2022 Modern slavery has risen significantly in last five years, new report says. Axios).
https://energyskeptic.com/2020/energy-slaves/
Bob Butler wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2023 7:46 pm
The false claim is of soft slavery.
Another example of soft slavery is exporting jobs via "free trade agreements" to countries outside the US which allow slave labor, hiding this fact through opaque supply chains. This was championed starting with the Clinton Administration and continued through the Obama Administration. Starting in 2016, Donald Trump tried to reverse this, but I don't think he was able to make much headway in his first administration. Maybe in his second.

However, any serious attempt to reverse this form of soft slavery will ultimately require a bump down in standard of living as currently defined. Most of the cream will come off the top 10 percent but some will come off the bottom 90 percent too.
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