1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated


Alexander Zakharchenko was increasingly annoying to his masters in Moscow

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Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated
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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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"...destabilize the region..." What a sad hoot!!!
Imbedded press have continually reported Russian troop "activities" in Ukraine. Although assassination candidates are several, this one reeks of the defectors offed in Britain. We may end up fighting with Russia; however, American troops must watch their backs. Remember Yalta and post-WWII?

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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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Silent Guest 2 wrote:"...destabilize the region..." What a sad hoot!!!
Imbedded press have continually reported Russian troop "activities" in Ukraine. Although assassination candidates are several, this one reeks of the defectors offed in Britain. We may end up fighting with Russia; however, American troops must watch their backs. Remember Yalta and post-WWII?
Boomers and Silents still wanting to democratize Russia and China. Why Cant we Just recognize the legitimacy of both those countries existing governments. Globalist Do-gooders refuse to accept the independence of Slavic civilization and oriental Civilization in any independent form. Within our own country; these same do-gooders also refuse to accept the constitutional rights of the American people.

Silent Guest 2

Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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CH, you are consistently an NWO apologist.
Concern for individual human life is a mark of civilization. The histories of Russia and China display despotism and genocide. Both nations' leaders are engaging in spying and manipulation.
While you may find such behavior acceptable, civilized people take dim views. Wars have been fought and millions of lives lost to save those victimized by tyrants. Those who have battled and shed blood can explain if you don't understand.

Cynic Hero 86

Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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Silent Guest 2 wrote:CH, you are consistently an NWO apologist.
Concern for individual human life is a mark of civilization. The histories of Russia and China display despotism and genocide. Both nations' leaders are engaging in spying and manipulation.
While you may find such behavior acceptable, civilized people take dim views. Wars have been fought and millions of lives lost to save those victimized by tyrants. Those who have battled and shed blood can explain if you don't understand.
There is an already historically established solution if you want to oppose Russia and China: Arming and allowing those two countries historical enemies, Germany and Japan, to become powerful armed Nations. Wanting America to determine what Russia and China's governments are IS NWO globalism.

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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
Silent Guest 2 wrote:CH, you are consistently an NWO apologist.
Concern for individual human life is a mark of civilization. The histories of Russia and China display despotism and genocide. Both nations' leaders are engaging in spying and manipulation.
While you may find such behavior acceptable, civilized people take dim views. Wars have been fought and millions of lives lost to save those victimized by tyrants. Those who have battled and shed blood can explain if you don't understand.
There is an already historically established solution if you want to oppose Russia and China: Arming and allowing those two countries historical enemies, Germany and Japan, to become powerful armed Nations. Wanting America to determine what Russia and China's governments are IS NWO globalism.
I must say, 'though I'd rather not, as it leaves a funky taste in my mouth, that CH would be quite correct in the "arm the enemies of those two" tactic.

But there may be "better" enemies than Germany and Japan.

Russia will snap apart into it's "parts" when the time comes, and be on "our side". That "break up" will supply much better enemies for China than Japan, as Japan is old and tired.

There is no "short term" solution to the China (+allies) "problem", as we all know.

Eventually, the "Archaic Indoeuropean and Uralic/Altaic homelands" will "solve" the problem that is China (and Moslem-ness), as well as the "over elaborated Christian" problem (of the European Peninsula).

Tengri for cosmic president!

..but, we'll have to wait some 75ish to 155ish (75+80ish=155ish [7 generations]) years for THAT solution to "magically appear".

(( My "primordial" Irish "horse person" ethos feels the "pull" of Tengri, by the way. Turks are not "my folks". ))

So, sit back and enjoy the show. Now I'm not condoning genocide, or being amused by such things, but they will happen, and perhaps marveling in those occasions when human love and beauty ARE exhibited might just be the way to counter the awfulness of the genocidal urge being played out.

..then again, enjoying the fruits distributed by our robot overlords may be what happens!

Yay, Robot Overlords!


Aloha gangies! :) <shaka nui!>

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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
Silent Guest 2 wrote:CH, you are consistently an NWO apologist.
Concern for individual human life is a mark of civilization. The histories of Russia and China display despotism and genocide. Both nations' leaders are engaging in spying and manipulation.
While you may find such behavior acceptable, civilized people take dim views. Wars have been fought and millions of lives lost to save those victimized by tyrants. Those who have battled and shed blood can explain if you don't understand.
There is an already historically established solution if you want to oppose Russia and China: Arming and allowing those two countries historical enemies, Germany and Japan, to become powerful armed Nations. Wanting America to determine what Russia and China's governments are IS NWO globalism.
I must say, 'though I'd rather not, as it leaves a funky taste in my mouth, that CH would be quite correct in the "arm the enemies of those two" tactic.

But there may be "better" enemies than Germany and Japan.

Russia will snap apart into it's "parts" when the time comes, and be on "our side". That "break up" will supply much better enemies for China than Japan, as Japan is old and tired.

There is no "short term" solution to the China (+allies) "problem", as we all know.

Eventually, the "Archaic Indoeuropean and Uralic/Altaic homelands" will "solve" the problem that is China (and Moslem-ness), as well as the "over elaborated Christian" problem (of the European Peninsula).

Tengri for cosmic president!

..but, we'll have to wait some 75ish to 155ish (75+80ish=155ish [7 generations]) years for THAT solution to "magically appear".

(( My "primordial" Irish "horse person" ethos feels the "pull" of Tengri, by the way. Turks are not "my folks". ))

So, sit back and enjoy the show. Now I'm not condoning genocide, or being amused by such things, but they will happen, and perhaps marveling in those occasions when human love and beauty ARE exhibited might just be the way to counter the awfulness of the genocidal urge being played out.

..then again, enjoying the fruits distributed by our robot overlords may be what happens!

Yay, Robot Overlords!


Aloha gangies! :) <shaka nui!>
Russia would be of far better use united then divided, the problem is that boomers refuse to accept the legitimacy of Russia's political and social system. Even with China a basis of respect can be created however it is too late to create such a basis on the concept of Chinese suddenly embracing freedom which the boomers have declared "either that or war" to the Chinese. A Basis of equilibrium in Which the America reforms and militarizes then conquers Latin America and the Middle East while China attempts the conquest of its neighborhood with Russia and Europe doing their own thing is a possible solution ignored by the boomers. The boomers want a world democratic crusade and a star trek style world democracy government; something Xers and Millies have NO interest in. The fundamental problem is that the boomers have grown emotionally attached to the idea of America as "angel of the world", they tyrannically refuse any proposal in which the eventual outcome if implemented equals america ceasing to be "angel of the world". These boomer leaders hate the idea of Militarization and Nuclear proliferation solely because their boomer awakening was anti-military and anti-nuclear. The boomers therefore implemented tyranny solely to maintain their preferred version of what America should be, and are destroying the substance of american democracy in the process.

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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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CH86 wrote:
FishbellykanakaDude wrote:
Cynic Hero 86 wrote:
Blah blah blah...
Blah blah blah...
Russia would be of far better use united then divided, the problem is that boomers refuse to accept the legitimacy of Russia's political and social system.
Firstly: Please stop using "then" when you mean "than". Just a pet peeve. Now on with the show...

No country is "of use". Russia is not "of use" to anyone. Russia is a political entity that other political entities have to deal with. No country is a "tool" to be "of use" to another country.

There is no legitimacy necessary for a country's political and social system. It not a question.

Countries are the way they are, period, and are dealt with in any way that other countries decide to deal with them.

Your hyper-extended legalism is inappropriate for the domain that you are conversing within. There are NO "international laws and rules". There are only temporary agreements between countries that they choose to abide by,.. until they don't.

Your fantasy of "oughttas and gottas" is childish and counterproductive.

But, why should that be a surprise coming from a resentful adolescent with delusions of grandeur?

Even with China a basis of respect can be created however it is too late to create such a basis on the concept of Chinese suddenly embracing freedom which the boomers have declared "either that or war" to the Chinese. A Basis of equilibrium in Which the America reforms and militarizes then conquers Latin America and the Middle East while China attempts the conquest of its neighborhood with Russia and Europe doing their own thing is a possible solution ignored by the boomers. The boomers want a world democratic crusade and a star trek style world democracy government; something Xers and Millies have NO interest in.
I do agree with you, to an extent on this bit.

A "Star Trek" like world would be a horrible, and luckily impossible, thing to strive for.

But what you, as high priest and political head of the Church of Unreal Premises, fail to recognize is that you DON'T represent who you think you represent!

If you did, your revolution would be well underway and largely accomplishing it's (horrific) goals.

The fundamental problem is that the boomers have grown emotionally attached to the idea of America as "angel of the world", they tyrannically refuse any proposal in which the eventual outcome if implemented equals america ceasing to be "angel of the world".
But you're acting precisely the same way. You simply define "angel" in another way!

These boomer leaders hate the idea of Militarization and Nuclear proliferation solely because their boomer awakening was anti-military and anti-nuclear.
They weren't (other than a few wackdoodles) anti-military. They were anti-bad-guys-with-arms. And they weren't anti-nuclear (initially) but rather anti-prevent-us-from-getting-nuked.

The plethora of wars and proliferation of nuclear tech (by "them") negates your argument.

The boomers therefore implemented tyranny solely to maintain their preferred version of what America should be, and are destroying the substance of american democracy in the process.
Would you have them implement a system that they DON'T believe in?

Your demonstrated definitions of "tyranny" and "democracy" show us precisely who you are, and your visage as a wannabe warlord leading a "youthful" and phantasmagorical hoard that doesn't actually exist is quite amusing, indeed. :)

Wishin' aloha on you, as you obviously need it desperately, but you'll get less than no mahalo from me, you twisted pimply piece of shit. <shaka nui!>

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Re: 1-Sep-18 World View -- Alexander Zakharchenko, leader of Russian forces in eastern Ukraine, is assassinated

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The Russian government (read: Putin) has had several regional warlords murdered over the last few years in Ukraine.

Most of these people had really strange backgrounds for warlords. One had been a short order cook at a cheap diner in Russia; another had been working at a car wash in Russia when the war broke out. Another one was well known for collecting Czarist memorabilia and participating in reenactments of World War One and Russian Civil War battles in full costume. None of these men were real soldiers. They were nothing more than third rate gangsters. They served as lighting rods for Putin and were blamed for all the atrocities and excesses of the Russian army and criminal gangs masquerading as soldiers. Putin is eye deep in atrocities; he is a Class A war criminal.

After these warlords had served their purpose, Putin wanted them out. The only problem was that they had built up criminal empires and their own armed formations filled whose ranks were filled with degenerates, drug addicts (and that's no exaggeration), alcoholics, and perverts. These gangsters didn't have anything to return to, except for, perhaps, a job at a car wash or selling drugs on street corners in Moscow. They refused to give up their ill gotten lifestyles. They threatened to reveal all of Putin's dirt to the foreign press, so Putin had them killed. It's really that simple.

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