4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

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4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

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4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

China threatens Australia with economic retaliation for criticizing it

** 4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China
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Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China
China threatens Australia with economic retaliation for criticizing it


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Generational Dynamics, Australia, China, Julia Gillard, Kevin Rudd

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Re: 4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

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Kevin Rudd was a former labor prime minister. Current pm is Malcolm Turnbull.

Gillard overthrew Rudd. Rudd later overthrew Gillard. Turnbull overthrew Tony Abbott recently.

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Re: 4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

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Bison wrote: > Kevin Rudd was a former labor prime minister. Current pm is
> Malcolm Turnbull. Gillard overthrew Rudd. Rudd later overthrew
> Gillard. Turnbull overthrew Tony Abbott recently.
I'm really pissed off at myself for mixing that up, but it's fixed
now. Thanks for the correction.

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Re: 4-Mar-16 World View -- Australia's defense plans stress huge naval buildup targeting China

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Speaking of land down under found some good tidbits from Lowy on your fav. subjects:
Remember, the stakes are high for both sides. This is a contest over the future of the Asian order, and we should not for a moment assume that China is any less committed to building a new order than we are to preserving the old one. Unless one side or the other abandons its core objective, the chances of a crisis in the Western Pacific escalating to the point that we face a decision about going to war is already quite high, and is growing steadily.

So we ought to think seriously about what war with China over one of these issues would actually look like.

It is easy to start a war expecting a quick fight and an easy win. But America and its allies do not have overwhelming military superiority, and nor does China. That means neither side would be likely to win decisively after a short, contained conflict.
http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/201 ... China.aspx

Anyway when you get to the end it gets a little silly (peace in our time by "accommodation" and let's all just get along)
But we do have to ask whether the costs and risks of such a war are justified to defend every element of the so-called 'rules based global order' in places like the South China Sea. More realistically, we will have to accept some changes in the regional order to accommodate China. We all find the idea of making such an accommodation uncomfortable, even scary. But is it scarier than war with China? It is time to think carefully about that. And it is time to stop talking tough when we don't mean it. It is undignified as well as dangerous.
Aaaannnd your other fav. in this region:
He [Admiral Harry Harris] has called for India, Japan and Australia to consider the idea of a quadrilateral dialogue with the US, to caucus on security challenges to the rules-based regional order. The obvious context for this is China and its destabilizing behavior in extending self-proclaimed authority over much of the contested South China Sea.
http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/201 ... Delhi.aspx

Annnnnddd for diversion (literally as it turns out) ;p
Last year, in May, a top defense expert based in Delhi posted a picture of him posing in front of a military tank with an assault rifle in hand, on Facebook. Soon after he uploaded the image, the expert started receiving friend requests and chat invites from so many random admirers, especially women.

Taken aback by this sudden and unusual attention, the expert decided to share the matter with his associates in the defense forces. What he heard from them made his jaw drop. His female admirers were actually agents working for Pakistan's spy agency, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), and were out to lure him into sharing sensitive and valuable details pertaining to defense operations.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/isi- ... 61137.html

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