FishbellykanakaDude wrote:I don't find the need to rely on an "authority" to believe what I believe, but I DO hear out (listen to) "authorities" because they may have some information that I find valuable in my pursuit to "strip God" of his imposed and "silly" (though possibly illuminating and/or touching) attributes.
I'm no one special at all,
other than being an absolutely unique person (as are we all) with interesting things to say.
I don't ask anyone to believe as I do, and I find it amusing (and interesting) that anyone would be "offended" that I "dare" voice my peculiar opinions and beliefs.
You've no need to be offended. I'm not trying to convert you. I'm only interested in comparing our two worldviews.
Who is asking you to "follow" any other beliefs than your own? Certainly not me.
I do hope that your beliefs aren't so fragile that your "worry" that you have to "counter/defend" your beliefs overcome the possible benefits of having an honest and open conversation that might clarify and deepen everyone's heartfelt personal beliefs.
Your proof is no proof at all, as far as I can tell. It is a simple appeal to authority. An appeal is not a proof.
It's fine that you take your authority (your "teacher") at face value, and have some "proof" that is convincing to you, but I've seen no "proof" of anything, but the non-proofs that you've presented aren't convincing to me, though they do provide things of interest to talk about.
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and it is very simply to understand the damn point which is written in very simply language at the top of this post as thread title.
and it is the damn purpose of human life. ( dull brain )
and if there is any fault in it that point it out and finish the business. and what is that fault anyways ? point it out. ( its an open challenge )
I'm not interested in finding "fault" with what you believe. I'm just interested in HOW what you believe has any "resonance" with what I believe. In other words, how your beliefs shed light (illuminate) on any "shadowy places" in my worldview.
So,.. could you restate what your belief is in regards to the "meaning of life" and what "the next life" means to you?
well you are always relying to believe someone else, but instead of mother you are taking the versions of random childrens who are saying that instead of father before our birth there is evolution, big bang, moon landing, etc ( false proapgandas ) which are only created to brainwash the sheeps like you.
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and ( personally ) i dont care what you find or believe or not believe for you are also the damn random child and not the actual authority ( or mother )
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and you are not the damn unique ( nonsense fool ) for you are the damn random child ( not the damn mother ) who is only unique in this entire creation.
for it is she who knows it that who has tilled her and has seen our father before our birth.
and you are not unique but an utter nonsense you actually are. and no actual intelligent person will care or give any attention to the damn childrens like you.
now matter however self proclaimed unique they may stay. ( but i dont give any piss at all )
and im not taking it as an offense but trying to open your eyes that you are not the damn unique but an nonsense as soon as you try to be more than authority or mother. immediately you are an rascal fraud. who will cheat people if not checked. ( and such persons like you must be thrown shoe filled with potty and urine so that people in general will not get carried away by you )
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and i know that you cannot do it. for doing such things one has to be alive which you are not. and nor your catholic religion has got any authority or explanation at all.
nor you have any explanation nor they have any explanation so waht you will do ? nothing. you can do nothing at all.
and who is actually fragile that we are already seeing it at present moment and its damn you but i dont think that you are that sensible to understand that. and your position is also fragile but mine is not for i have got Practical explanation but you have nothing of the sort.
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so you can deny it that there is father before our birth, ( you can deny it than ) but actually those who are intelligent in the first place they will listen to this Practical explanation and mother ( or authority )
for they all knows it that its our mother who has seen our father before our birth and knows it that who has tilled her.
and follow or listen you always have to but as far as we ( The Hare Krishnas ) goes so here is solid, veriebale and tangible Practical explanation. which is the proof of our authority.
but you can freely listen to anyone as you like without having any explantion at all. but listen you always have to weather any random chidlrens or actual mother or authority.
and we ( The Hare Krishnas ) have explained the right process by giving this Practical explanation. but what explanation others are giving to us ? huh?
same things are going on with your evolution, big bang, moon landing etc also. for you are blindly believing these false mass brainwashing propagandas.
instead of following the real mother.
so follow you always have to. but here is the actual process of recognising of real father and real mother.
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//but the non-proofs that you've presented aren't convincing to me//
alright than there is no father before our birth. ( finished )
than what is before our birth ? huh? evolution? big bang? moon landing etc ? are they more convincing to you ? than good luck with them.
but i dont care for them than. ( finished ) and if you are not convinced by this Practical explanation
than im also not convinced by them ( same thing )
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and what child will find fault in mother ? huh? after all its she who hsa seen our father before our birth and knows it that who has tilled her.
and its she who is the person of knowledge and if you dont accept her words than you have to explain another process of recogning of our father.
but you cannot say that there is no father before our birth. ( now weather you may be or may be not convinced ) but there is father before our birth and our mother has seen him and knows it that who has tilled her.
and you have not seen him nor knows more than mother.
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//So,.. could you restate what your belief is in regards to the "meaning of life" and what "the next life" means to you?//
and meaning of life is and will remain same as it was always which is to become freed from repeated birth after birth, old age, disesase and death.
and now you may not be concivned that you do forget everything which you have thought or done on each second within `1 cheap minute.
than you are an rascal idiot only. ( finished )
plainly saying than you are an idiot.
for saying that i dont believe it
or am not convinced that there is any father before our birth.
dont be what is my loss ? but i know that here is Practical explanation, and here is mother ( or authority OR Srila Prabhupada ) and here is father ( aka Supreme Personality of Godhead Krishna )
and im fully convinced by it that i do forget everything just like last nights dream. and there is Krishna who has been seen by his recognized agent and both of them exists in person.