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** 16-Jun-2020 World View: North Korea demolishes inter-Korean liaison office

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  • The 'enraged people' of North Korea (KCNA)


The North Koreans destroyed a liaison office in North Korea near the
border with South Korea, by means of a "terrific explosion." The
office used to be used for North-South communications at any time, but
the North abandoned the office completely last week, so the action
could be considered symbolic.

North Korea has a history of throwing temper tantrums when it wants
attention. So blowing up an unused building is probably a message to
everyone -- South Korea, America, China -- to say "look at me and put
me back into the news, or I'll blow up something bigger."

One problem with trying to decode this new message is that North
Korea's government seems to be in chaos. The child dictator, Kim
Jong-un, has all but disappeared recently, amid rumors that he has
health problems, and may even be infected with Covid-19.

In his place, his hot chick sister Kim Yo-jong has taken over the job
of making hysterical statements and threats. So the sister may be
trying to prove that she can lead the country as well as her brother,
and to prove it she blew up an empty building and issued threats of
further action.

The issue here is the same as in the Ladakh situation. It's not that
any coherent planning is going on. It's that everything is in chaos,
and nobody knows what to do next. It's that nationalism and
xenophobia are at all-time highs, and in that chaotic atmosphere
someone may decide to shoot first and look later, and that could end
up triggering a military response and a larger war.

Right now, we really have no idea what the significance is of the
demolished liaison office, except that the North Koreans are throwing
some kind of temper tantrum. We can only guess where things will go
next.

---- Sources:

-- North Korean media says it’s now “too late” for the South to avoid
a crisis
https://www.nknews.org/2020/06/north-ko ... -a-crisis/
(NKNews, 16-Jun-2020)


-- North Korea demolishes inter-Korean liaison office at Kaesong
https://www.nknews.org/2020/06/explosio ... cal-press/
(NKNews, 16-Jun-2020)

-- North Korea blows up South Korea joint office in rebuke of Seoul
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/ ... uiwfOd7l_A
(Japan Times, 16-Jun-2020)

-- North Korea blows up joint liaison office with South in Kaesong
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53060620
(BBC, 16-Jun-2020)

-- North Korea: What's behind the liaison office demolition?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53061613
(BBC, 16-Jun-2020)

-- North Korea blows up joint liaison office near border with South
Korea
https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/no ... a-1.633920
(Stars and Stripes, 16-Jun-2020)

-- North Korea's 'huge cover-up exposed' as Kim Jong-un's sister
threatens military action
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/12 ... action-spt
(Daily Express, London, 15-Jun-2020)

Xeraphim1

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Guest wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:07 am
People here are dishonest.
South Korea the western puppets have provoked the North.,They have been sending leaflets on hotbloons for the last week or so.
I totally blame the south. Stop being used by your white masters and try to live on peace with your own kind.
America has successfully turned brothers against one another.
Japan against China.
North against south.
China against Hongkong and Taiwan
Now the whole south China sea and America want war in that par of the world.
Arabs against one another.
The white man has really divided and ruled everyone.
Snort. Asia didn't need American help to turn people against each other. If anything, the US has been tamping down on the hatred.

Guest

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I can't believe the American people have turned their country over to mob rule. America is now Zimbabwe. Congrats. I guess.

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You might find this news interesting. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 396873.cms

Guest

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Guest wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:34 am
I can't believe the American people have turned their country over to mob rule. America is now Zimbabwe. Congrats. I guess.
The Mexicans now have to fight over the crumbs with the blacks. That can't be fun.

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** 16-Jun-2020 World View: Comedy
Guest wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:34 am
> I can't believe the American people have turned their country over
> to mob rule. America is now Zimbabwe. Congrats. I guess.
Guest wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:45 am
> The Mexicans now have to fight over the crumbs with the
> blacks. That can't be fun.
You guys are hilarious. You should do standup.

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** 16-Jun-2020 World View: Ladakh: Soldiers killed

Supposedly, tensions are supposed to decrease in the border
confrontation in Ladakh, because India and China are in talks to
actually do that -- decrease tensions.

However, events on the ground say otherwise. On Monday evening, one
Indian army senior officer and two soldiers were killed in fighting
with Chinese soldiers. There are also unconfirmed reports of Chinese
casualties.

There were no shots fired. The deaths occurred from fist-fighting and
stone throwing.

Nonetheless, this is a major escalation. There have been border
confrontations for a long time, but this is the first time in decades
that someone has been actually killed.

As I've been saying, this situation is remarkably similar to the Marco
Polo Bridge incident that triggered World War II and the Rape of
Nanking. The deaths of three India soldiers, and possibly some
Chinese soldiers as well, is only going to lead to retribution, even
if Chinese and Indian diplomats are meeting in a room somewhere.

In fact, I would think that death from fistfighting and stonethrowing
is far more gruesome than death by gunshot. This will not be
forgotten by soldiers on either side, and they will want revenge.

A further recent development is that Chinese officials are using an
administrative change last August in Indian-administered Kashmir and
Jammu as a reason to say that the Chinese army is being "forced" to
intervene in Kashmir and Jammu and therefore in Ladakh. This is
significant since it could mean that China is preparing public opinion
for a Chinese invasion.


---- Sources:

-- India-China Ladakh border news live Updates: Army Officer, 2
Soldiers Killed In "Violent Face-Off" With China In Ladakh
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india-c ... kh-2247070
(New Delhi TV, 16-Jun-2020)

-- Growing power differential is what lies behind China’s assertion in
Ladakh
https://indianexpress.com/article/opini ... n-6460681/
(Indian Express, 16-Jun-2020)

-- Editor Of Beijing Mouthpiece Global Times Acknowledges Casualties
For China
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/chinese ... es-2247130
(New Delhi TV, 16-Jun-2020)


--- Related articles:

** 13-Jun-20 World View -- China and India mobilize thousands of troops along border in Ladakh
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e200613



** 10-Aug-19 World View -- Pakistan-India relations downgraded as Kashmir is locked down
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e190810



*** 14-Jun-2020 World View: China on 'wartime footing', Pakistan, India face new surge of Covid-19 cases
*** http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=52793#p52793

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Death toll seems to be rising. Now at 20 on the Indian side, no reports yet of deaths on Chinese side.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476

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Jeepdinger wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:24 pm
Death toll seems to be rising. Now at 20 on the Indian side, no reports yet of deaths on Chinese side.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53061476
And still, no shots have been fired. Amazing.

Update: Iron rods and stones were used.

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It seems that both countries have a tacit understanding that no firearms are allowed into the area. This of course is wise. But all it takes is a hot head or two to breach this protocol, bring a gun into the area, and "take revenge" for something. This gets at John's frequently voiced view, which I fully support, that it only takes a couple of individuals making really bad decisions to start a war when generational dynamic pressures are in play.

On another note, there may be some logic as to why China is focusing on India right now. India has no real allies. No defense treaties that would bring other superpowers into play. So, technically, China could fight India, even with Pakistan as a Chinese ally, and the US (or Russia) would not have a commitment to engage over this.

I have always thought that India, not Pakistan, was our natural ally in southern Asia. Pakistan is NOT our friend. We have given them untold billions to help fight the "war on terror" and they have done nothing of the sort. Instead they have used those funds to arm against India.

India for too long has held to the idealistic notion of being "non-aligned", and now it is probably going to pay the price.

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