15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

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15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby John » Sat Dec 15, 2018 12:49 am

15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution


Military tensions between Ukraine and Russia are increasing

** 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution
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Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution
Military tensions between Ukraine and Russia are increasing


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Generational Dynamics, Russia, Ukraine, Constantinople,
Russian Orthodox Church, Ukrainian Orthodox Church,
Moscow Patriarchate, Kiev Patriarchate,
Patriarch Bartholomew I, Patriarch Kirill,
Black Sea, Sea of Azov, Kerch Strait

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby jhujit » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:42 am

The Russian Orthodox Church is a fraud. Past Patriarchs and priests have been seen wearing expensive Swiss watches from brands like Brequet (a company that sells watches for hundreds of thousands of dollars each). There was a poor attempt to Photoshop a Brequet watch off the wrist of a now dead Patriarch. These "priests" live lives of luxury. Some priests and bishops are even rumored to have women...

The ROC was a Stalinist tool during in Soviet Times and it remains a Kremlin puppet today. There is nothing spiritual about the ROC. The ROC is also surrounded by strange splinter groups (cults). The ROC is a political organization, a bunch prostitutes.

If the ROC was really Christian, it would not behave the way is does.

To be fair, the state churches in Eastern Europe (whether Orthodox or Catholic) are just political tools. It's only the small protestant churches that are really religious (if they are truly religious at all). Why do I say that? Because the small churches are bullied and harassed constantly by governments and local nationalists gangs who wear crosses as jewelry, not for any religious reasons. Not that Protestant churches are all good either. What I am saying is that Communism bashed religion out the the DNA of most of the people who live there. Religion is part of people's national identity, not any real religious belief. Being orthodox means you are Serbian. Being Catholic means you are Polish.

People attend orthodox churches for weddings. And the brides dress like cheap whores with backless wedding dresses and push up bras. Brides also wear gaudy tiaras and bejeweled crosses, to show their piety...

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:15 am

There was a poor attempt to Photoshop a Brequet watch off the wrist of a now dead Patriarch.


Not dead, it was the current honcho who got caught. You're probably thinking of a different scandal...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... gram-posts

Kirill himself suffered a similar scandal in 2012 after he was caught in a meeting wearing a Breguet watch worth an estimated $30,000 (£24,000). His aides airbrushed the luxury timepiece out of a photograph but failed to erase the watch face’s reflection in a polished wooden table. The church apologised.


The Guardian article is rather enlightening. It includes tidbits about the Russian Church like this about a Russian priest who likes to show off his luxury goods on social media:

But he denied owning the items from Gucci and Louis Vuitton, saying he had taken most of the photographs in stores. Sometimes, he said, he sewed expensive-looking buckles on to his modest footwear.

“So they’re inexpensive shoes, but they look festive,” he wrote.


This priest does live a life a luxury, but I doubt he has women. He looks queer.

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby CH86 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:54 pm

LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:56 pm

CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.

I think you have totally misinterpreted what he was trying to say. I think what he was trying to say was that the Orthodox and Catholic churches were really secular political organizations, and that the Protestant churches in Eastern Europe had sincere believers. The Protestants are abused for their faith, but still believe. The other churches just exist to fund lavish lifestyles of degenerate clerics and support nationalist movements.

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:21 pm

CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.


Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby CH86 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:49 pm

Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.


Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?


Many evangelical Pro-globalist and pro-neocon denominations effectively toss out the New testament with the exception their interpretation of the book of revelation. As a result they support a defense-based Israel but at the same time do everything possible to prevent decisive Israeli campaigns in the Mideast as that would contradict their interpretation of the end times. I would have had some respect for them if they had preached Muslim Extermination, but they don't and instead preach that the west must absorb terrorism and allow Russia and China to become emboldened and not do anything to deter them from join the Islamist. Many Modern protestant evangelicals are hostile the idea of the "church of the blood" that animated original Catholicism and orthodoxy as well as the original Lutherans and the Calvinists.

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby Guest » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:31 pm

CH86 wrote:
Guest wrote:
CH86 wrote:LOL to the very notion of Protestantism as True Christianity when it is well known that the protestant reformers threw out large-sections of the New Testament and tried to elevate the old testament even though Jesus and the apostles supposed to have said that the new testament replaces the old one.


Many Protestant churches do say the New Testament replaces the Old. What Protestant church are you referring to?


Many evangelical Pro-globalist and pro-neocon denominations effectively toss out the New testament with the exception their interpretation of the book of revelation. As a result they support a defense-based Israel but at the same time do everything possible to prevent decisive Israeli campaigns in the Mideast as that would contradict their interpretation of the end times. I would have had some respect for them if they had preached Muslim Extermination, but they don't and instead preach that the west must absorb terrorism and allow Russia and China to become emboldened and not do anything to deter them from join the Islamist. Many Modern protestant evangelicals are hostile the idea of the "church of the blood" that animated original Catholicism and orthodoxy as well as the original Lutherans and the Calvinists.


End time Evangelicals do not represent all Protestants. They are fringe group. One that punches above its weight. I do not support Israel, and I am Protestant (CE). And the rest of your argument is a highly flawed. I don't know many churches who support an alliance between Russia, China, and militant Islam. The Protestant faith includes a wide variety of beliefs. A true Christian would never support genocide.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby CH86 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 12:16 am

Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.

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Re: 15-Dec-18 World View -- Russian Orthodox Church asks world leaders to protect it from Ukrainian persecution

Postby Guest » Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:46 am

CH86 wrote:Evangelicals Support the Idea of a Russia/China/Radical Islam alliance because that alliance is supposed to bring about the end times and final days by eventually attacking Israel and the west. Its an eschatological political agenda that is incomprehensible to most Catholics, orthodox and Mainline protestants. They also support the idea of the US subordinating policy to Israel and strong Support for Israel as this is supposed to factor in their predicted version of the end times apocalypse.

Apocalyptic cults are nowhere near representative of the Protestant faith. Martin Luther would not approve.

Are you Serbian Orthodox?


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