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12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2018 11:51 pm
by John
12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact


Russia's Vostok-2018 war games send a message to China

** 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e180912




Contents:
Russia, with China's participation, launches biggest war games in decades
Russia's Vostok-2018 war games send a message to China
Has Vladimir Putin forgotten the lessons of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact?


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Russia, Vostok 2018, China, mongolia,
Dmitry Medvedev, Siberia, Far East, Lake Baikal, Vladivostok,
Kim Jong-un, Vladimir Putin, Jeff Sessions, Mongol Yoke,
Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler,
Xi Jinping, Lebensraum, Han Racial Superiority, Aryan Master Race

Re: 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:18 am
by Tom Mazanec
One message being sent to the West is that Russia will be prepared to respond to US military action in Asia, if such every occurs.
ever

Any details on how Russia and China almost went to war in the 1960s?

Re: 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:38 am
by FishbellykanakaDude
"The reality of today's international politics is that a lot of people are playing "The Art of the Deal," and one can't be sure that anyone says what he means."

One MUST assume that everyone says BOTH what they mean and NOT what they mean, simultaneously.

So, actions, and especially "micro-actions", are the only "sensible" medium of communication.

Unfortunately, even "micro-actions" these days are like binary switches made from warm annoyed nitroglycerin,.. so communications have an "interesting" tendency to explode.

When the contrast between all "wannabe meaningful" signals approaches "no contrast" (signal to noise ratio closely approaches "1") then exploding switches can make for "explosive misunderstandings".

We can only hope that "leaders" use a better medium for comms between themselves than our "politicians" and "civilians" do.

I personally think they do. The trick is that they have to put on a "good show" for the "others" such that they aren't strung up by "the others" for betrayal.

..a damned tricky feat. Wish 'em luck!

Aloha nui. :) <shaka!>

Re: 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:37 am
by John
Tom Mazanec wrote:One message being sent to the West is that Russia will be prepared to respond to US military action in Asia, if such every occurs.
ever

Any details on how Russia and China almost went to war in the 1960s?

google "sino-soviet war"

Re: 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:54 am
by guest
Is Trump going to sell out Europe like the Allies sold out Eastern Europe in the Second World War? Any deal with Russians--on a personal level or a national one--is a deal with the devil.

Re: 12-Sep-18 World View -- Russia's 'strategic alliance' with China evokes memories of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:36 pm
by FishbellykanakaDude
guest wrote:Is Trump going to sell out Europe like the Allies sold out Eastern Europe in the Second World War? Any deal with Russians--on a personal level or a national one--is a deal with the devil.
You don't "deal" with Russians. You "allow" them to assist you to protect themselves.

They (the Russians) will have no other choice than to fall in with the non-Chinese.

As to what happens AFTER the war,.. I can't see that far, but I seriously doubt Trump will be making any decisions about anything at that time.