26-Aug-18 World View -- China, North and South Korea confounded by cancellation of Kim Jong-un meeting

[Deus Vult]

Typical fantasy, tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Would you care you discuss trump and his failures without mentioning obama, hillary, or someone else you disagree with? You can’t. A trump supporter can only say obama or hillary when they attempt to defend the worst president in my lifetime. Your idiotic thoughts scare me more than china. Obviously there will be nukes used in the clash of the civilization war that generational dynamics teaches us so there will be blood on US soil. You will burn the same as I since I live in a metropolitan area. No political party or president can stop xenophobia or nationalism by another nation. However, xenophobia can be fueled and grow faster with insane rhetoric in speeches as followers believe their psychotic leader.

How are my ideas 'tin foil hat conspiracy theories'? Care to explain? Of course not.

Trump is doing the best he can considering the forces massed against him. If Trump fails, America will descend into barbarism.

Are the Chinese and North Koreans not xenophobes? Are the Chinese and North Koreans some how morally superior to President Trump? Trump scares you more than China? Is Trump threatening to conquer and enslave Asia? Is Trump planning to destroy Japan?

You are an idiot. "Unbelievable" is a good name for you. It sums up your ignorance and arrogance perfectly.

When the center gives way, you will die first because low lifes like you are too good to get your hands dirty. You have no real skills. You think your smug demeanor and arrogance make you better than everyone else. You are not. I can sense your true nature. You will burn, along with all of your kind. Most of my kind don't live in cities. We don't have to. Contemplate that.

[Silent Guest 2]

Unbeliever, CH and zztop:
Apparently factual history and reality have escaped your notice. We are not living in the coulda, woulda, shoulda fantasy world. Trump was left with barry's traitorous legacy--apology tours/giveaways and implanted domestic jihadist cells and DC bureaucracy and deep state traitors.
"Negotiating" with kim and xi is postponing the inevitable. Barry/hildog would have had CHICOM bombers flying American skies by this time. What don't you understand about intransigence and linkage?

[CH86]

Unbeliever, CH and zztop:
Apparently factual history and reality have escaped your notice. We are not living in the coulda, woulda, shoulda fantasy world. Trump was left with barry's traitorous legacy--apology tours/giveaways and implanted domestic jihadist cells and DC bureaucracy and deep state traitors.
"Negotiating" with kim and xi is postponing the inevitable. Barry/hildog would have had CHICOM bombers flying American skies by this time. What don't you understand about intransigence and linkage?

No one is saying there is no threat from North Korea. The North Korean Threat is of an invasion of the south and Possible mass launch of WMDs by Kim if He is defeated/we intervene. There is no "red dawn" threat, that is never been what the North Korean threat is. If you think negotiations are impossible lets fight the second Korean war NOW. If not then Let South Korea and Japan develop their own nukes then, they have the economy and military infrastructure to defend themselves without US involvement. If fighting a second Korean war against Pyongyang, and all evidence says it would be necessary, then it will be a hard fight, the hardest since at least the Korean war and possibly WW2, and we would lose a lot of our boys in that fight, but we would ultimately Crush the NORKs. Regarding Trump, President Trump is the one forcing through negotiations with Kim, much of the bureaucracy is favoring a first-strike. Our Carrier battle groups, Subs, and Bombers are still operating on their peacetime schedules and Rotations, there is no evidence of an actual force mobilization.

[CH86]

Typical fantasy, tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Would you care you discuss trump and his failures without mentioning obama, hillary, or someone else you disagree with? You can’t. A trump supporter can only say obama or hillary when they attempt to defend the worst president in my lifetime. Your idiotic thoughts scare me more than china. Obviously there will be nukes used in the clash of the civilization war that generational dynamics teaches us so there will be blood on US soil. You will burn the same as I since I live in a metropolitan area. No political party or president can stop xenophobia or nationalism by another nation. However, xenophobia can be fueled and grow faster with insane rhetoric in speeches as followers believe their psychotic leader.

How are my ideas 'tin foil hat conspiracy theories'? Care to explain? Of course not.

Trump is doing the best he can considering the forces massed against him. If Trump fails, America will descend into barbarism.

Are the Chinese and North Koreans not xenophobes? Are the Chinese and North Koreans some how morally superior to President Trump? Trump scares you more than China? Is Trump threatening to conquer and enslave Asia? Is Trump planning to destroy Japan?

You are an idiot. "Unbelievable" is a good name for you. It sums up your ignorance and arrogance perfectly.

When the center gives way, you will die first because low lifes like you are too good to get your hands dirty. You have no real skills. You think your smug demeanor and arrogance make you better than everyone else. You are not. I can sense your true nature. You will burn, along with all of your kind. Most of my kind don't live in cities. We don't have to. Contemplate that.

Judging from their conduct of the Current trade war, the Chinese are aware of the distinction between "reds" and "blues", if war breaks out they will engage against primarily "red" areas. Reds using blues as "human shields" will not work, any remotely competent adversary would see through such a gambit. The Attempt by "reds" to leverage political, economic, geopolitical and military currents to force a "Southernization" of the US will likely not succeed, Most Americans like being culturally "Yankees" and do not like "Dixie" culture.

I think "unbelievable" was referring to your assessments of the relative capabilities of China/North Korea vs the US/South Korea/Japan. You appear to MASSIVELY overestimate the military strength of the former while significantly underestimating the Military capabilities of the Latter. The US as 12 Carrier battle groups, supported by several new Japanese Carriers, the Chinese only have one. The US has 14 ohio Class SSBNs, the Chinese only have one equivalent sub. The Chinese Pla and PLAN combined have about 3500 aircraft, However the US navy alone has 3700 aircraft, and thats before we even mention the US air force.

[Silent Guest 2]

CH:
Perhaps you underestimate the importance of oriental face saving. Kim has made brash if juvenile threats at Trump. And you seem to forget those test missiles that were fired near Japan. Meanwhile the Chinese still attempt silk roading on land and at sea.
Kim has never stopped nuclear "research". Just as does Iran, he is merely concealing the operations from satellites.
What could cause anyone to think that Kim will not launch a missile state side? We are not talking about a stable person, and he has one giant hate for Trump's "schooling" him.
Xi has power brokers to please. For him, it's not just the economy that's in a mess.
(Just think back to the time when the should-be-hanging barry had ALL our nuclear subs anchored off the east coast. The times they have changed.)

[CH86]

CH:
Perhaps you underestimate the importance of oriental face saving. Kim has made brash if juvenile threats at Trump. And you seem to forget those test missiles that were fired near Japan. Meanwhile the Chinese still attempt silk roading on land and at sea.
Kim has never stopped nuclear "research". Just as does Iran, he is merely concealing the operations from satellites.
What could cause anyone to think that Kim will not launch a missile state side? We are not talking about a stable person, and he has one giant hate for Trump's "schooling" him.
Xi has power brokers to please. For him, it's not just the economy that's in a mess.
(Just think back to the time when the should-be-hanging barry had ALL our nuclear subs anchored off the east coast. The times they have changed.)

Unless kim has develop secret ABM tech, or the NORKs have perfected Rotation to underground infrastructure, then he could launch a missile. Absent these prerequisites, then it would be suicide for him to launch. The Only Exception if he somehow gets the unconditional support of both China and Russia. And that would cause a much larger war than just North Korea vs the US. Regarding Xi, remember that Xi Jinping is somewhat of a loose-cannon in Chinese politics, Most of the established power-brokers there are a lot less Philo-Asiatic/Pro-Russian than he is, a lot of those power brokers in china desire a more Asia-Centric Chinese policy.

[CH86]

Regarding CHICOM bombers, the Chicoms have no such bomber with the range to do overflights over the US. Regarding the Sunni Muslims, Trump has shown no sign of abandoning Obama's Policy of helping Islamists in Saudi Arabia and Syria. Why are will still engaged in Syria if he is reigning in the Islamist, why are we helping Saudi Arabia vs the Houthis if we are reigning in the Islamists. Why are we bombing Assad?

[Silent Guest 2]

Kim will save himself. The NK population is as far below his level of concern as legal American citizens are to DC elected. Both Kim and Trump are ego-drive. Trump cares about his "legacy" and grip on Oval Office power. Kim is far less complex and more short-sighted. The only direct military aggression I can see any general approving is complete scorched earth. Attempting a Korean Police Action, Part II is not in the cards.
Look at ages of our pilots. American troops in Afghanistan are green. Only God knows how many are illegals with ulterior motives.
I'm not certain how we morphed to Syria.
Lots of players there. The goal should be stopping Assad before another genocide.
Don't count on Turkey. Let's stick to John's topic.

[Guest]

Typical fantasy, tin foil hat conspiracy theories. Would you care you discuss trump and his failures without mentioning obama, hillary, or someone else you disagree with? You can’t. A trump supporter can only say obama or hillary when they attempt to defend the worst president in my lifetime. Your idiotic thoughts scare me more than china. Obviously there will be nukes used in the clash of the civilization war that generational dynamics teaches us so there will be blood on US soil. You will burn the same as I since I live in a metropolitan area. No political party or president can stop xenophobia or nationalism by another nation. However, xenophobia can be fueled and grow faster with insane rhetoric in speeches as followers believe their psychotic leader.

How are my ideas 'tin foil hat conspiracy theories'? Care to explain? Of course not.

Trump is doing the best he can considering the forces massed against him. If Trump fails, America will descend into barbarism.

Are the Chinese and North Koreans not xenophobes? Are the Chinese and North Koreans some how morally superior to President Trump? Trump scares you more than China? Is Trump threatening to conquer and enslave Asia? Is Trump planning to destroy Japan?

You are an idiot. "Unbelievable" is a good name for you. It sums up your ignorance and arrogance perfectly.

When the center gives way, you will die first because low lifes like you are too good to get your hands dirty. You have no real skills. You think your smug demeanor and arrogance make you better than everyone else. You are not. I can sense your true nature. You will burn, along with all of your kind. Most of my kind don't live in cities. We don't have to. Contemplate that.

Judging from their conduct of the Current trade war, the Chinese are aware of the distinction between "reds" and "blues", if war breaks out they will engage against primarily "red" areas. Reds using blues as "human shields" will not work, any remotely competent adversary would see through such a gambit. The Attempt by "reds" to leverage political, economic, geopolitical and military currents to force a "Southernization" of the US will likely not succeed, Most Americans like being culturally "Yankees" and do not like "Dixie" culture.

I think "unbelievable" was referring to your assessments of the relative capabilities of China/North Korea vs the US/South Korea/Japan. You appear to MASSIVELY overestimate the military strength of the former while significantly underestimating the Military capabilities of the Latter. The US as 12 Carrier battle groups, supported by several new Japanese Carriers, the Chinese only have one. The US has 14 ohio Class SSBNs, the Chinese only have one equivalent sub. The Chinese Pla and PLAN combined have about 3500 aircraft, However the US navy alone has 3700 aircraft, and thats before we even mention the US air force.

No, 'unbelievable' was just be a typical left wing douche.

[Unbelievable]

Guest, please read aloud your sentence. Nice. Guess you told me huh? North Korea has pledged denuclearization in 1985, 1992, 1994, 2003, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2016. And the dump says he has solved the crisis. Don’t think so. Idiot then starts a trade war with basically everyone. Brilliant. Let the people pay more for basic goods while lowering taxes on corporate earnings. Again, brilliant. Keep tax returns private so that the masses can’t see money laundering for the Russians along with tax evasion. Brilliant. Blame everything on someone else. Lie multiple times daily so that no one knows the truth. Keep the red team against the blue team by fear, lies and psychotic behavior. China has the ability and will eventually use a preemptive strike. Yes we will hit back. One or two pulse explosions in the upper atmosphere will refer the power grid useless. Does it matter after the blast if you are blue or red? Unbelievable is the fact that you people are blind to it all