28-Jan-18 World View -- New massive Taliban attack in Kabul Afghanistan kills 95 / Trump doubles down on war on Taliban

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28-Jan-18 World View -- New massive Taliban attack in Kabul Afghanistan kills 95 / Trump doubles down on war on Taliban

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28-Jan-18 World View -- New massive Taliban attack in Kabul Afghanistan kills 95

Trump doubles down on war on Taliban in Afghanistan

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New massive Taliban attack in Kabul Afghanistan kills 95
Trump doubles down on war on Taliban in Afghanistan


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Generational Dynamics, Afghanistan, Kabul, Taliban,
Northern Alliance, Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks,
Bagram, Kandahar International Airport

zzazz

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If Trump does start a war in Asia and if either China or Russia feels a need to retaliate, then those isolated bases at Bagram and Kandahar (like Israel) are the perfect places for a limited counter strike.

devorah

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This Sunday morning I am sickened to agree with John. The longer long view is keeping ISIS/elQueda/Taliban from American soil. Granted, factions are already here.
The National Guard is already recruiting on TV. A few years hence the draft will be reinstated...no choice. Americans are paying and will pay for apathy, especially for the 8 years of barry hussein and his treason. I have seen far too many flag-draped caskets in my lifetime and comforted too many grieving parents, wives and children. In essence the politicians (not statesmen, if we have any other than Bolton and Rice), marched in place and parades until barry. Then American troops became prey.
Benghazi was more than an object lesson.

Guest

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devorah wrote:This Sunday morning I am sickened to agree with John. The longer long view is keeping ISIS/elQueda/Taliban from American soil. Granted, factions are already here.
The National Guard is already recruiting on TV. A few years hence the draft will be reinstated...no choice. Americans are paying and will pay for apathy, especially for the 8 years of barry hussein and his treason. I have seen far too many flag-draped caskets in my lifetime and comforted too many grieving parents, wives and children. In essence the politicians (not statesmen, if we have any other than Bolton and Rice), marched in place and parades until barry. Then American troops became prey.
Benghazi was more than an object lesson.
The draft will never be reinstated. Remember first that the generation in power is the generation that was subject to the draft for Vietnam.

But there is a second and more significant reason that the American populace will not tolerate the draft. This country has been de facto at war since 2001. That is 17 years now. That is more than double the next longest war in American history and counting). WWII with all of it's horrors was less that 4 years for the US.

The point is that a draft at this point would not be considered a draft until the war is over. It would be seen as a draft (to send people to their deaths) with no end ever. I can't see the Voters, or for that matter the disobedient populace going along with that.

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Re: 28-Jan-18 World View -- New massive Taliban attack in Kabul Afghanistan kills 95 / Trump doubles down on war on Tali

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Guest wrote: > The draft will never be reinstated. Remember first that the
> generation in power is the generation that was subject to the
> draft for Vietnam.

> But there is a second and more significant reason that the
> American populace will not tolerate the draft. This country has
> been de facto at war since 2001. That is 17 years now. That is
> more than double the next longest war in American history and
> counting). WWII with all of it's horrors was less that 4 years
> for the US.

> The point is that a draft at this point would not be considered a
> draft until the war is over. It would be seen as a draft (to send
> people to their deaths) with no end ever. I can't see the Voters,
> or for that matter the disobedient populace going along with
> that.
That's not what happens. Think what happened after 9/11/2001. We
were at war with Afghanistan a day later, and no one objected.

Now imagine if a nuclear missile from North Korea or China hit Los
Angeles. Do you suppose anyone would be opposed to a draft then?

The relevant concept in generational theory is "Regeneracy events,"
which refer to events that lead to the regeneracy of civic unity for
the first time since the end of the preceding generational crisis war.

In the case of World War II, there was just as much dissent and
political vitriol directed at FDR as there is today toward Trump. But
then there was the bombing of Pearl Harbor followed by the Bataan
Death March. These regeneracy events unified the country behind FDR
for the first time. The same thing would happen today for Trump, and
there would be no objection to reinstating the draft.

CH86

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Post by CH86 »

If a nuke attack occurred, the draft would not be much of an issue because the war would be "3 hour" war or at most a "3 day" war because US doctrine since the 1950s has always been to immediately launch a full-scale counter-strike. The only factor that would determine what the counter-strike would be would be the specific nature of the original attack. Also the North Koreans Seem to be aiming for target capability against likely New York, Not LA. This is because the critical node of the US and world economy is Located at New York as well as the UN other US and world assets, strategically there is not much at LA except cultural stuff and population density is much lower at the latter city as well. Evidence of this includes the Norks developing a missile with range to reach the entirety of the US instead of just the west coast. If the enemy is Russia or if China has deployed more nukes than is generally stated than the draft would not be much of an issue since neither the US or Russia and/or China would exist within a few days of the start of the war.


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