17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

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17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby John » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:31 pm

17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India


North Korea apparently backs down from the threat to attack Guam

** 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/xct.gd.e170817.htm#e170817




Contents:
China opens a new front in its border war with India
Survey of Bhutan's people shows high anxiety over border confrontation
North Korea apparently backs down from the threat to attack Guam


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, India, China, Pangong Lake, Tibet,
Bhutan, Doklam Plateau,
North Korea, Kim Jong-un, Guam

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby Trevor » Wed Aug 16, 2017 11:51 pm

I've spoken to others about the topic and almost no one believes that a major war could really happen. A frequent argument is: "We thought it would blow up during the Cold War; it didn't. It won't happen now." And those who do... it's usually believed because of either a conspiracy, such as the New World Order, or it's seen in religious terms as a sign of the end times.

Now that North Korea has ICBM capability, they feel they don't have to listen to anyone. They could just as easily use them against China and they're well aware of this. I haven't heard a damned thing in the news about the China-India stand-off. They're usually discussing Trump's latest outrage.

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby Millennial 83 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:05 am

John you are incredible. It's literally as though you web browser is programmed to filter out any events in the US relevant to this Fourth Turning. How you continue to ignore Charlottesville, it's continuing fallout and implications is mins boggling unless you realize that for all you know about generational dynamics you are still a stubborn early wave boomer at heart.

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby Coordinated fires » Thu Aug 17, 2017 1:46 am

Millennial 83 wrote:John you are incredible. It's literally as though you web browser is programmed to filter out any events in the US relevant to this Fourth Turning. How you continue to ignore Charlottesville, it's continuing fallout and implications is mins boggling unless you realize that for all you know about generational dynamics you are still a stubborn early wave boomer at heart.


Seems like business as usual. We millennials are a 3rd turning(unraveling) generation who grew up fighting culture wars. Wars which are now apparently culminating with communists and fascists clubbing each other in the streets.

As we enter the 4th turning domestic and international instability,driven by national emotion, will continue to build to unmanageable levels and then climax in a great power war, at which point we will be required to set aside our vitriolic political differences in order to respond to the crisis. Seems like everything is on track.
Politics is war by other means

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby John » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:01 am

Millennial 83 wrote:> John you are incredible. It's literally as though you web browser
> is programmed to filter out any events in the US relevant to this
> Fourth Turning. How you continue to ignore Charlottesville, it's
> continuing fallout and implications is mins boggling unless you
> realize that for all you know about generational dynamics you are
> still a stubborn early wave boomer at heart.


You're right. I am incredible.

Two weeks ago it was Russia's meddling. Last week it was Google's
gender controversy, this week it's Charlottesville, next week it will
be something else. From the point of view of Generational Dynamics,
the Charlottesville incident is a political event that will be
forgotten as soon as the next political incident comes along.

I recall that the first weekend that Trump was in office, there was a
huge feminist rally in Washington DC that the mainstream media said
would forever change the country's views of women's rights. Who
remembers that feminist rally today? Each new political event is
blown out of proportion by the mainstream media, and then it
disappears.

I write about the events that, in my judgment, are likely to be
remembered by history as leading to World War III, such as the
China-India border war, the North Korea nuclear development or the war
in Syria.

You kids should really start thinking about what's really going on in
the world. Focusing on ephemeral political events is just a pleasant
way to escape from reality.

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby shoshin » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:20 am

Bannon interview...I love that he calls the alt-right and neo-nazis "clowns"...I am liking this guy more and more...which means he will probably get booted...

http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:31 am

Millennial 83 wrote:John you are incredible. It's literally as though you web browser is programmed to filter out any events in the US relevant to this Fourth Turning. How you continue to ignore Charlottesville, it's continuing fallout and implications is mins boggling unless you realize that for all you know about generational dynamics you are still a stubborn early wave boomer at heart.

America is going the way of Czarist Russia. Anyone who studies history knows who well that turned out. 'America' as we know it won't survive the decade. I'm not hoping for anything anymore. I won't bother wishing anyone good luck.

Guest

Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby Guest » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:28 am

shoshin wrote:Bannon interview...I love that he calls the alt-right and neo-nazis "clowns"...I am liking this guy more and more...which means he will probably get booted...

http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant


Or maybe he is planning to ditch the S.A. and move forward.

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby John » Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:29 pm

shoshin wrote:> Bannon interview...I love that he calls the alt-right and
> neo-nazis "clowns"...I am liking this guy more and more...which
> means he will probably get booted...

> http://prospect.org/article/steve-bannon-unrepentant


As you suggest, Bannon is a very interesting guy, especially to me as
he's strongly supported me and Generational Dynamics over the years.

This is still going on, incidentally. There's been a fair amount of
controversy among the Breitbart editors about whether they should
continue cross-posting my articles, given my previous relationship
with Bannon, and the fact that I keep referring to it in my articles,
which I think they view as somewhat presumptious and self-serving
(which maybe it is), though it's also necessary to provide a context.
The controversy has apparently been resolved by continuing to
cross-post my articles, including the ones where I refer to Bannon and
Generational Dynamics. In my opinion, this conclusion could not have
been reached unless it was approved by Bannon himself in the last
couple of weeks.

Yesterday, there was a lengthy article in the NY Times about
Breitbart. I made a PDF of it so that it can be read w/o going behind
the NYT paywall.

http://jxenakis.com/gdgraphics/NYTimes- ... 170816.pdf

This article is mainly about Alexander Marlow, with whom I've only
rarely exchanged messages, so I don't know what he thinks of me or
Generational Dynamics. However, he obviously at least tolerates it,
because I'm still cross-posting -- though I'm pretty sure, once again,
that Marlow is following Bannon's wishes.

To me what's also interesting about the NYT article is that it talks a
lot about Bannon and mentions the Fourth Turning, with no mention
about my relationship with Bannon or Breitbart.

This is consistent with what I've seen many times over the years --
that Generational Dynamics is like pornography in that a lot of people
are reading my articles, but no one wants to admit it. Actually, the
Breitbart site itself is also in that category.

The American Prospect article is also interesting because the talk
about a ten-year trade war with China directly contradicts the
Generational Dynamics predictions about China. Bannon very well
understands the predictions, so Bannon's statements in that article
mean that either he doesn't believe the predictions, or that he
believes them and is talking about a trade war for political reasons,
since it would be political suicide to predict a war with China. I
tend to believe the latter.

There's another data point here. About a month ago a NYT reporter
called me and asked me questions about Generational Dynamics and Steve
Bannon. He said that Bannon told him to call me, though I have no
independent verification of that. Anyway, I answered all his
questions and talked about the China predictions, so at least one
person on the NYT staff is aware of them. Nothing of our phone
conversation made it into print that I'm aware of.

Bannon is a brilliant person. He's using me as a pawn in a larger
political game that I'm completely unable to fathom. I'm going along
with it because I like Steve and I trust him, and because it's to my
benefit anyway. Still, I wonder if I'll live long enough to find out
what's really going on.

Whether Bannon is going to be forced out remains to be seen. There's
a perfectly reasonable explanation that says that Bannon and Trump are
in sync on policy, but that the talk about Bannon leaving is just part
of the circus to throw people off the scent of what they're really
planning. If this is true, it would be consistent with the view that
they believe the Generational Dynamics predictions, and are trying to
implement countermeasures.

There's one more point related to earlier posts in this thread. No
one wants to talk about a new world war, but most people are
viscerally aware of what's coming at some level of consciousness or
semi-consciousness. Even though what's coming becomes more obvious
every day, the vast majority of people are in a state of denial, and
use a form of escapism by focusing on political issues like
Charlottesville, which is almost completely irrelevant to what's going
on in the world.

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Re: 17-Aug-17 World View -- China opens a new front in its border war with India / North Korea apparently backs down

Postby psCargile » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:33 pm

There are threats of military action, but there seems to be a hesitancy to follow through, as if world leaders are reading the site and not wanting to be the first cause of a truly cataclysmic event. Or maybe they all figure that any way. I don't know.


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