30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

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30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby John » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:36 pm

30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

What could trigger another world war?


** 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/xct.gd.e170730.htm#e170730




Contents:
North Korea tests a ballistic missile capable of reaching US mainland
South Korea's president Moon approves new THAAD development
What could trigger another world war?
War between Russia and China


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, North Korea, South Korea, Japan, China,
Terminal High Altitude Area Defense, THAAD,
Moon Jae-in, Park Geun-hye, Russia, India, Turkey, Taiwan,
Mongol Invasion, War of the Spanish Succession,
Pakistan, Salman Taseer, Revolutionary War

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Guest » Sun Jul 30, 2017 3:19 pm

The trigger for WWIII is already in the white house. Our only hope is that the deep state will prevent it.

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Guest » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:18 pm

Guest wrote:The trigger for WWIII is already in the white house. Our only hope is that the deep state will prevent it.


It's the Deep State that wants war, not Donald Trump.

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Coordinated fires » Sun Jul 30, 2017 7:40 pm

John, I have some questions regarding the generational dynamics framework. Given that generational crisis eras occur 60-80 years after the previous crisis war, do you expect that trends such as longer life spans, ageing populations( at least in the west), people staying in influential positions until an older age( ex: Nancy peloton, donald trump many others are 70 80 + with no signs of retirement )will impact, perhaps even stretch the intervals between crisis wars?

Do you believe that adversaries on different timelines are at a sort of disadvantage? since theoretically according to GD, one nation's leaders may be a younger and therefore more likely to use military force to impose their political will. Parenthetically, does a country such as China, who hasnt fought any major wars since the 1950's, possess a greater will to go to war than, let's say, the United States whose leaders still have memories of Vietnam, iraq, and Afghanistan?
Politics is war by other means

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby John » Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:30 pm

Coordinated fires wrote:> John, I have some questions regarding the generational dynamics
> framework. Given that generational crisis eras occur 60-80 years
> after the previous crisis war, do you expect that trends such as
> longer life spans, ageing populations( at least in the west),
> people staying in influential positions until an older age( ex:
> Nancy peloton, donald trump many others are 70 80 + with no signs
> of retirement )will impact, perhaps even stretch the intervals
> between crisis wars?

> Do you believe that adversaries on different timelines are at a
> sort of disadvantage? since theoretically according to GD, one
> nation's leaders may be a younger and therefore more likely to use
> military force to impose their political will. Parenthetically,
> does a country such as China, who hasnt fought any major wars
> since the 1950's, possess a greater will to go to war than, let's
> say, the United States whose leaders still have memories of
> Vietnam, iraq, and Afghanistan?


The average human lifespan is irrelevant, since the average is mostly
determined by child mortality. 200 years ago, something like 50% of
all children died before age 5. Today, that figure is more like 1-2%.
That's why the average human lifespan has increased. What's important
to generational theory is the maximum effective human lifespan, and
that's been around 75-80 years for millennia.

As for your second question, I don't know the answer. I believe the
fact that China's military has never fought an external war puts them
at a major disadvantage, but that has nothing to do with generational
theory.

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Guest » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:02 am

Can't the Americans just live with a nuclear armed North Korea? America has tolerated Russia and the others. I know the Reds in Korea behave badly, but from what I understand, they aren't insane. Kim jong-un just wants to survive and stay in power. It seems like young North Koreans have no interest in communism or the Kim dynasty. America should just wait it out and let the North Koreans overthrow their leader.

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Guest » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:04 am

P.S. I don't want a nuclear war. I'm not afraid of dying in one; I'm afraid I'll live through it and have to survive in a ravaged world. I don't want to have to commit suicide. I'm afraid I would go to Hell if I did that. Do you understand my dilemma?

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Tom Mazanec » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:33 pm

Guest wrote:P.S. I don't want a nuclear war. I'm not afraid of dying in one; I'm afraid I'll live through it and have to survive in a ravaged world. I don't want to have to commit suicide. I'm afraid I would go to Hell if I did that. Do you understand my dilemma?


Yes, Guest, I do understand. I am a devout Catholic and believe I would go to hell if I commit suicide. I would like to die in a hospice, so I can prepare myself. I have a fear of dying suddenly as much as a fear of dying agonizingly, since I might not be ready. God bless you.
SHARKS (crossed out) MONGEESE (sic) WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ATTACHED TO THEIR HEADS

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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby Coordinated fires » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:17 pm

John wrote:
Coordinated fires wrote:> John, I have some questions regarding the generational dynamics
> framework. Given that generational crisis eras occur 60-80 years
> after the previous crisis war, do you expect that trends such as
> longer life spans, ageing populations( at least in the west),
> people staying in influential positions until an older age( ex:
> Nancy peloton, donald trump many others are 70 80 + with no signs
> of retirement )will impact, perhaps even stretch the intervals
> between crisis wars?

> Do you believe that adversaries on different timelines are at a
> sort of disadvantage? since theoretically according to GD, one
> nation's leaders may be a younger and therefore more likely to use
> military force to impose their political will. Parenthetically,
> does a country such as China, who hasnt fought any major wars
> since the 1950's, possess a greater will to go to war than, let's
> say, the United States whose leaders still have memories of
> Vietnam, iraq, and Afghanistan?


The average human lifespan is irrelevant, since the average is mostly
determined by child mortality. 200 years ago, something like 50% of
all children died before age 5. Today, that figure is more like 1-2%.
That's why the average human lifespan has increased. What's important
to generational theory is the maximum effective human lifespan, and
that's been around 75-80 years for millennia.

As for your second question, I don't know the answer. I believe the
fact that China's military has never fought an external war puts them
at a major disadvantage, but that has nothing to do with generational
theory.


OK I think im starting to get it. It's the sheer scale of it that is hard to wrap the head around sometimes. The wills and deeds of individual personalities, groups, or politicians usually get all the attention and analysis, but are rendered almost irrelevant when talking about the titanic shifts in attitudes among entire generations of people, its still hard for me to wrap my head around the scale!
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Re: 30-Jul-17 World View -- South Korea approves new THAAD deployment after North Korean missile test

Postby John » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:52 pm

Coordinated fires wrote:> OK I think im starting to get it. It's the sheer scale of it that
> is hard to wrap the head around sometimes. The wills and deeds of
> individual personalities, groups, or politicians usually get all
> the attention and analysis, but are rendered almost irrelevant
> when talking about the titanic shifts in attitudes among entire
> generations of people, its still hard for me to wrap my head
> around the scale!


That sounds exactly right. And if it's any consolation, the
mainstream press, analysts, economists and politicians never get it.


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