20-Jul-17 World View -- Cambodia bans all sales of sand to Singapore / The world is running out of sand

[John]

20-Jul-17 World View -- Cambodia bans all sales of sand to Singapore


The world is running out of sand

** 20-Jul-17 World View -- Cambodia bans all sales of sand to Singapore
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e170720



Contents:
Cambodia bans all sales of sand to Singapore
The world is running out of sand


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Cambodia, Koh Kong, Singapore,
United Nations Environment Program, Pascal Peduzzi,
China, Lake Poyang, India

[guest]

The truth is we're depleting just about every resource on this planet. I'm waiting for frayed nerves and empty stomachs to lead to violent chaos and mass death. I suppose after the collapse of civilization, people will just salvage and reuse what ever materials they can find. That's what invading Arab armies did in Greece with the Pharos in Alexandria, the Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, and a few other former wonders of the ancient world.

[Brendan]

The truth is we're depleting just about every resource on this planet. I'm waiting for frayed nerves and empty stomachs to lead to violent chaos and mass death. I suppose after the collapse of civilization, people will just salvage and reuse what ever materials they can find. That's what invading Arab armies did in Greece with the Pharos in Alexandria, the Mausoleum at Halicarnassus, and a few other former wonders of the ancient world.

I was just coming here to post the same thing. Even with assuming a mass extinction event, I feel we will still need a lot of technological progress to solve these problems, but those things may go hand and hand.

[Shining City]

I think the world will break down, most of it will collapse, and new mini-states will emerge based on ethnicity/race/ religion. I think there will be city states surrounded by barbarism. The closest example might be Israel (I'm no fan of Israel). The ME has largely collapsed into warlordism. Israel, for the moment, survives. It is heavily fortified, patrolled, and armed to the teeth. While not homogeneous (yet!) it is a bastion of tranquility compared to the rest of the region. I think you will have city states, perhaps islands in Scotland, or in the Channel Islands, that become independent. I'm thinking about China 1911-1949. The alternative is just barbarism. I'm hoping at least a few safe city states will emerge.

These places will be low tech places, but they will have law and order and social cohesion. And the places outside of these cities will simple starve to death. Or they will have a Mad Max existence (without gasoline).

[John]

> I think the world will break down, most of it will collapse, and
> new mini-states will emerge based on ethnicity/race/ religion. I
> think there will be city states surrounded by barbarism. The
> closest example might be Israel (I'm no fan of Israel). The ME has
> largely collapsed into warlordism. Israel, for the moment,
> survives. It is heavily fortified, patrolled, and armed to the
> teeth. While not homogeneous (yet!) it is a bastion of tranquility
> compared to the rest of the region. I think you will have city
> states, perhaps islands in Scotland, or in the Channel Islands,
> that become independent. I'm thinking about China 1911-1949.
> The alternative is just barbarism. I'm hoping at least a few
> safe city states will emerge.

> These places will be low tech places, but they will have law and
> order and social cohesion. And the places outside of these cities
> will simple starve to death. Or they will have a Mad Max existence
> (without gasoline).

I've written about this a number of times in the past. In my view,
the world war will kill 3-4 billion people, who will be killed by
nuclear weapons, airstrikes, ground war, chemical weapons, biological
weapons, disease and famine. This will leave 3-4 billion traumatized
people behind to rebuild the world. The history and interpretation of
the war will be written by the winners. The first thing that the
surviving world leaders will do is hold a big international
conference, where national boundaries will be redrawn, a new United
Nations will be created, a new European Union will be created, and
everyone will promise that nothing like that war can ever be allowed
to happen again. However, I still estimate that the Singularity will
occur around 2030, and it's not clear that the human race will survive
too many years after that anyway.

[Shining City]

I've written about this a number of times in the past. In my view,
the world war will kill 3-4 billion people, who will be killed by
nuclear weapons, airstrikes, ground war, chemical weapons, biological
weapons, disease and famine. This will leave 3-4 billion traumatized
people behind to rebuild the world. The history and interpretation of
the war will be written by the winners. The first thing that the
surviving world leaders will do is hold a big international
conference, where national boundaries will be redrawn, a new United
Nations will be created, a new European Union will be created, and
everyone will promise that nothing like that war can ever be allowed
to happen again. However, I still estimate that the Singularity will
occur around 2030, and it's not clear that the human race will survive
too many years after that anyway.

I don't think this will end up like the aftermath of WW 2. I think it will be like the fall of Rome and the Dark Ages. I think the welfare dependent migrants will destroy everything when the welfare system implodes. You need civilization intact to conduct a global conference.