29-May-17 World View -- North Korea launches another ballistic missile test, as talk of war increases

[John]

29-May-17 World View -- North Korea launches another ballistic missile test, as talk of war increases

The US deploys three aircraft carriers to Korean waters amid talk of war

** 29-May-17 World View -- North Korea launches another ballistic missile test, as talk of war increases
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e170529



Contents:
North Korea launches ninth ballistic missile test this year
The US deploys three aircraft carriers to Korean waters amid talk of war


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, North Korea, Scud KN-06 ballistic missile,
Kim Jong-un, South Korea, Moon Jae-in, Japan, Shinzo Abe,
USS Nimitz, USS Carl Vinson, USS Ronald Reagan

[Guest]

If there is a war, there will certainly be a lot of chest thumping on this website.

[Crazytown]

How about a war to deflect the attention of the American people away from Russian gate and trumpers losng their healthcare to massive budget cuts. Wag the dog.

[Guest]

If there is a war, there will certainly be a lot of chest thumping on this website.

How so? Do you mean some people will be happy about it?

[John]

> If there is a war, there will certainly be a lot of chest thumping
> on this website.

Yeah, right. Yelling "I won!!!" just before being killed by a
missile, or just before becoming a homeless refugee. Victory is
sweet.

[Guest 5]

> If there is a war, there will certainly be a lot of chest thumping
> on this website.

Yeah, right. Yelling "I won!!!" just before being killed by a
missile, or just before becoming a homeless refugee. Victory is
sweet.

This is awful, terrible, really horrible. If we become refugees, where will go? We will die.

I don't have anything bad to say about you, John. My understanding of this site is that you take no pleasure in being the bearer of bad news. I don't know what else to write. I don't want to die in a nuclear war. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I thought that nightmare had past.

[Guest 5]

> If there is a war, there will certainly be a lot of chest thumping
> on this website.

Yeah, right. Yelling "I won!!!" just before being killed by a
missile, or just before becoming a homeless refugee. Victory is
sweet.

This is awful, terrible, really horrible. If we become refugees, where will go? We will die.

I don't have anything bad to say about you, John. My understanding of this site is that you take no pleasure in being the bearer of bad news. I don't know what else to write. I don't want to die in a nuclear war. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I thought that nightmare had past.

P.S. I didn't write the chest thumping post. That was a different 'Guest'.

[Guest]

I wrote the chest thumping post.

I read the website because it reports news from the overseas press, that's interesting.
I can ignore all the Obama bashing and polemical soap-boxing.
But I get tired of the "counseling of despair", something I once heard W.F. Buckley (rightly I decided) denounce.

My advice concerning generational dynamics: get quantified.
As it stands now, it is not much different from a palm reader staring at your hand and saying "someday there will be another war".

If generational dynamics is real, there will be statistics that prove it. Can't find the statistics---then it isn't real.
And if it is real there will also be policies that mitigate it, and these are the proper research content of the theory, not counselling despair.

What could mitigate a crisis period--things like the draft, the peace corps, service in UN peacekeeping operations, some forms of government are all plausible palliatives---there must be many---a serious theory would perform a serious search for ways to avert the coming clash of civilizations war--and not just say "oh it's hopeless", and chest thump whenever some tragedy superficially seems to confirm it.

[John]

> This is awful, terrible, really horrible. If we become refugees,
> where will go? We will die.

> I don't have anything bad to say about you, John. My understanding
> of this site is that you take no pleasure in being the bearer of
> bad news. I don't know what else to write. I don't want to die in
> a nuclear war. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, I thought
> that nightmare had past.

I agree with you. It's all unbelievably sad. I write about it every
day, and a lot of it is extremely depressing. I just try to pretend
it's happening on some other planet, and I console myself with the
fact that I'm old enough so that death will be a blessing anyway.

[John]

> I wrote the chest thumping post.

> I read the website because it reports news from the overseas
> press, that's interesting. I can ignore all the Obama bashing and
> polemical soap-boxing. But I get tired of the "counseling of
> despair", something I once heard W.F. Buckley (rightly I decided)
> denounce.

> My advice concerning generational dynamics: get quantified. As it
> stands now, it is not much different from a palm reader staring at
> your hand and saying "someday there will be another war".

> If generational dynamics is real, there will be statistics that
> prove it. Can't find the statistics---then it isn't real. And if
> it is real there will also be policies that mitigate it, and these
> are the proper research content of the theory, not counselling
> despair.

First off, I have quantified it. There are some 4,000 articles on my
web site containing hundreds of predictions, all of which have come
true or are trending true. None has turned out to be false. There
have been some cases, such as analysis of the Mideast peace process in
2003, Lebanon in 2006, Sri Lanka in 2009, and Iran in the last ten
years, when I've been right and pretty much the rest of the world has
been wrong. There is no other web site, analyst, journalist or
politician in the world with a better predictive record than mine. So
it's been quantified.

And if you want to challenge that, then be my guest, and good luck
trying. A number of others have tried and failed. You will too.

As for Obama bashing, I'll take just one example.

When Obamacare was announced in 2009, I said it would fail
disastrously, comparing it to Nixon's price controls in the 1970s.
That's exactly what's happened. Obamacare is a complete disaster, and
just as Nixon's price controls destroyed the economy for years,
Obamacare has destroyed medical services for years. So I was
completely right about this, and those who call what I write
"Obama-bashing" were dead wrong.

Let's make this explicit: I was completely right, and you were dead
wrong.

You're just an anonymous commenter, probably majored in women's
studies or sociology, think you know everything, but actually know
nothing except how to thump your chest and make nonsensical comments.

> What could mitigate a crisis period--things like the draft, the
> peace corps, service in UN peacekeeping operations, some forms of
> government are all plausible palliatives---there must be many---a
> serious theory would perform a serious search for ways to avert
> the coming clash of civilizations war--and not just say "oh it's
> hopeless", and chest thump whenever some tragedy superficially
> seems to confirm it.

Oh really? And which of these things are going to stop Kim Jong-un?
Maybe a UN peacekeeping operation can go into North Korea and clear
out the nuclear weapons. (Hint: UN peacekeeping operations in various
African countries have been at best useless, and at worst disastrous.)

All of those same "plausible palliatives" were around in one form or
another prior to World War II, but they didn't stop the Nazis or
Imperial Japan.

Are you really so dumb that you think any of these things could stop a
world war? If you do, then you really are a total moron.