11-May-17 World View -- US will 'quickly' arm Kurdish militias in Syria, despite Turkey's opposition

[John]

11-May-17 World View -- US will 'quickly' arm Kurdish militias in Syria, despite Turkey's opposition

Turkish officials furious at plans to arm the Kurds

** 11-May-17 World View -- US will 'quickly' arm Kurdish militias in Syria, despite Turkey's opposition
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e170511


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US will 'quickly' arm Kurdish militias in Syria, despite Turkey's opposition
Turkish officials furious at plans to arm the Kurds


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Syria, Turkey, Free Syrian Army, FSA, Turkmens,
Syrian Democratic Forces, SDF, Kurds, People's Protection Units, YPG,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Tabqa, Raqqa, Kurdistan Workers' Party, PKK, Tayyip Recep Erdogan,
Vehicle Borne Improvised Explosive Devices, VBIEDS,
John Dorrian

[Ex Trump supporter]

Why is America in Syria anyway? We get our oil from Canada and Venezuela. Shouldn't this be an EU problem? The refugees are flooding into the EU, not America.

Why is America still in NATO? The French just voted for mass immigration. The 'new French' will be flying ISIS flags off the Eiffel Tower inside a decade. What are we doing defending people who have no interest in defending themselves? You can't help people who will not help themselves. And yes, that's how I see it. That's how a lot of people see it.

The EU was started as an act of Anti-Americanism. The Europeans love to attack, snub, and ridicule Americans at every turn. Americans, including my relatives, fought against Hitler for all this?

[Geoffrey Britain]

It's inarguable that the PKK is an existential threat to Turkey as long as the Turks continue to deny the Kurds their right to self-determination. So too is ISIS an existential threat to America. It's hypocritical for the Turks to get furious at America for putting its self-interest first, while the Turks insist upon putting their self-interest first.

If Erdogan wants to play hardball, then pull our nukes and personnel out of Turkey and then render an ultimatum to NATO; in one month either Turkey or America will no longer be a member of NATO.

[Geoofrey Britain]

exTrump guy,

America is in Syria because that's where ISIS is most concentrated.
We get little to no oil from Venezuela.
Since ISIS is also an existential threat to America and the EU are pacifist surrender monkees... it's either fight them over there or over here.
America has been part of NATO because a much stronger Russia was not in America's interest. When Western Europe falls to Islam, NATO membership will give America the excuse needed to seize France's nuclear arsenal. And possibly the UK's...
Western Europe's ingratitude and cultural suicide will prove its undoing. Western Europe is doomed by their own hand and no, people cannot be saved from themselves.

[Ex Trump supporter]

It's inarguable that the PKK is an existential threat to Turkey as long as the Turks continue to deny the Kurds their right to self-determination. So too is ISIS an existential threat to America. It's hypocritical for the Turks to get furious at America for putting its self-interest first, while the Turks insist upon putting their self-interest first.

If Erdogan wants to play hardball, then pull our nukes and personnel out of Turkey and then render an ultimatum to NATO; in one month either Turkey or America will no longer be a member of NATO.

How is ISIS a threat to America? Latino gangs kill and wreck more havoc than ISIS does and yet America is not bombing Mexico. We should have sent commandos in to get Osama Bin Laden, not an entire army. We ended up killing him with 20 SEALs. We didn't need a hundred thousand soldiers to invade and occupy a hell hole like Afghanistan. And don't even get me started on Iraq.

I hope America quits NATO and goes home.

[Ex Trump supporter]

exTrump guy,

America is in Syria because that's where ISIS is most concentrated.
We get little to no oil from Venezuela.
Since ISIS is also an existential threat to America and the EU are pacifist surrender monkees... it's either fight them over there or over here.
America has been part of NATO because a much stronger Russia was not in America's interest. When Western Europe falls to Islam, NATO membership will give America the excuse needed to seize France's nuclear arsenal. And possibly the UK's...
Western Europe's ingratitude and cultural suicide will prove its undoing. Western Europe is doomed by their own hand and no, people cannot be saved from themselves.

We can seize their arsenal even if we aren't in NATO.

[Ex Trump supporter]

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/what-is-u-s- ... yone-know/

Pat Buchanan commented on just this point today:

A quarter century after the Cold War, we remain committed to 60-year-old Cold War alliances to defend scores of nations on the other side of the world. Consider some of the places where America collides today with nuclear powers: the DMZ, the Senkakus, Scarborough Shoal, Crimea the Donbass.

What is vital to us in any of these venues to justify sending an American army to fight, or risking a nuclear war?

We have lost control of our destiny. We have lost the freedom our Founding Fathers implored us to maintain – the freedom to stay out of wars of foreign counties on faraway continents.

Like the British and French empires, the American imperium is not sustainable. We have issued so many war guarantees it is almost assured that we will be dragged into every future great crisis and conflict on the planet.

If we do not review and discard some of these war guarantees, we shall never know peace. Donald Trump once seemed to understand this. Does he still?

[Trevor]

No one has ever followed that advice, even the Founding Fathers themselves. John Adams fought an undeclared naval war with France. Thomas Jefferson launched an invasion against the Barbary pirates. James Madison began the war of 1812. Even George Washington fought numerous wars with the Indians during his presidency, so that's complete and utter nonsense.

[Ex-Trump Supporter]

No one has ever followed that advice, even the Founding Fathers themselves. John Adams fought an undeclared naval war with France. Thomas Jefferson launched an invasion against the Barbary pirates. James Madison began the war of 1812. Even George Washington fought numerous wars with the Indians during his presidency, so that's complete and utter nonsense.

George Washington fought the Indians on American (then British colonial) soil. George Washington warned his countrymen not to go abroad looking for monsters to destroy when he left office. Attacking the Barbary Pirates was not the same as invading Iraq.The attack on the Barbary pirates resulted in very few American deaths and was extremely limited in scope. Fighting the war of 1812 on American soil was not an act of imperialism. Attempting to use these wars to justify any current military action is complete and utter nonsense.

[psCargile]

So, essentially, you don't recognize the differences between Islamic terrorists and Latino criminal gangs?