23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'

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23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'

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23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'


Skeptics claim that CPEC will only benefit China, not Pakistan

** 23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'
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Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'
Skeptics claim that CPEC will only benefit China, not Pakistan
Pakistan will use dark financing to cover the cost of protecting Chinese workers


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Generational Dynamics, Pakistan, Balochistan, Baloch, Ahsan Iqbal,
China, China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, CPEC,
Kashgar, Xinjiang, Gwardar port, Sri Lanka,
Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi, Nato, Karachi, Afghanistan,
Pakistan Taliban, al-Qaeda, East Turkestan Islamic Movement, ETIM,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, IMU

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Re: 23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'

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I have been studying the history of Japanese colonialism in China for three decades. That treaty conditions you wrote about mirror the treaties China was forced to sign by various foreign powers granting spheres of influence (defacto colonies) in China in the 20th Century. I want to keep this brief, so I'll focus on Japanese expansion.

Manchuria has always been a highly contested part of Asia. The Russians, Chinese, and Japanese have all competed to control it. The Czarist Russia made one-sided treaties with China and took over the Kwantang Penisula. The Russians built a city, harbor, and started work on a Manchuria Railway which they gained controlled of through rather complex and completely dishonest dealings. After the Russo-Japanese War, the Japanese made an even more one-sided treaty with China that allowed the Japanese to bring in massive numbers of Japanese colonists.

The break down of central government in China after 1911 allowed the Japanese to extract (often by military force) even more territory and expand the the Southern Manchurian Railway (SMR). Millions of Japanese colonists flooded in, built their own towns and cities, stole farmland, and created massive factories and mining operations.

Local Chinese ended up has grossly mistreated, impoverished, and abused slaves for the Japanese.

This all lead to the eventually creation a fake country called Manchukuo in 1932.

I'm leaving out a lot of details, but my point is that the Chinese are doing exactly what the Japanese did to them. I wouldn't be surprised if in 10 or 20 years times, China stole the factory territories outright under the guise of supporting 'independence movements' for local minority groups. Balucukuo.

It looks like the Chinese have learned a lot from history.

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Re: 23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'

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Useless degree wrote: > I have been studying the history of Japanese colonialism in China
> for three decades. That treaty conditions you wrote about mirror
> the treaties China was forced to sign by various foreign powers
> granting spheres of influence (defacto colonies) in China in the
> 20th Century. I want to keep this brief, so I'll focus on Japanese
> expansion.

> Manchuria has always been a highly contested part of Asia. The
> Russians, Chinese, and Japanese have all competed to control
> it. The Czarist Russia made one-sided treaties with China and took
> over the Kwantang Penisula. The Russians built a city, harbor, and
> started work on a Manchuria Railway which they gained controlled
> of through rather complex and completely dishonest dealings. After
> the Russo-Japanese War, the Japanese made an even more one-sided
> treaty with China that allowed the Japanese to bring in massive
> numbers of Japanese colonists.

> The break down of central government in China after 1911 allowed
> the Japanese to extract (often by military force) even more
> territory and expand the the Southern Manchurian Railway
> (SMR). Millions of Japanese colonists flooded in, built their own
> towns and cities, stole farmland, and created massive factories
> and mining operations.

> Local Chinese ended up has grossly mistreated, impoverished, and
> abused slaves for the Japanese.

> This all lead to the eventually creation a fake country called
> Manchukuo in 1932.

> I'm leaving out a lot of details, but my point is that the Chinese
> are doing exactly what the Japanese did to them. I wouldn't be
> surprised if in 10 or 20 years times, China stole the factory
> territories outright under the guise of supporting 'independence
> movements' for local minority groups. Balucukuo.

> It looks like the Chinese have learned a lot from history. J
>
Thanks for the information. As you say, the Chinese have learned a
lot from history. They've learned from the Japanese how to create
disasters, but have learned nothing about the consequences of such
disasters.

Useless degree

Re: 23-Mar-17 World View -- Massive China-Pakistan CPEC energy project said to end energy crisis 'soon'

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John wrote:
Useless degree wrote: > I have been studying the history of Japanese colonialism in China
> for three decades. That treaty conditions you wrote about mirror
> the treaties China was forced to sign by various foreign powers
> granting spheres of influence (defacto colonies) in China in the
> 20th Century. I want to keep this brief, so I'll focus on Japanese
> expansion.

> Manchuria has always been a highly contested part of Asia. The
> Russians, Chinese, and Japanese have all competed to control
> it. The Czarist Russia made one-sided treaties with China and took
> over the Kwantang Penisula. The Russians built a city, harbor, and
> started work on a Manchuria Railway which they gained controlled
> of through rather complex and completely dishonest dealings. After
> the Russo-Japanese War, the Japanese made an even more one-sided
> treaty with China that allowed the Japanese to bring in massive
> numbers of Japanese colonists.

> The break down of central government in China after 1911 allowed
> the Japanese to extract (often by military force) even more
> territory and expand the the Southern Manchurian Railway
> (SMR). Millions of Japanese colonists flooded in, built their own
> towns and cities, stole farmland, and created massive factories
> and mining operations.

> Local Chinese ended up has grossly mistreated, impoverished, and
> abused slaves for the Japanese.

> This all lead to the eventually creation a fake country called
> Manchukuo in 1932.

> I'm leaving out a lot of details, but my point is that the Chinese
> are doing exactly what the Japanese did to them. I wouldn't be
> surprised if in 10 or 20 years times, China stole the factory
> territories outright under the guise of supporting 'independence
> movements' for local minority groups. Balucukuo.

> It looks like the Chinese have learned a lot from history. J
>
Thanks for the information. As you say, the Chinese have learned a
lot from history. They've learned from the Japanese how to create
disasters, but have learned nothing about the consequences of such
disasters.
Everyone thinks it will be different for them.

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