22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

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22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby John » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:26 pm

22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province


China commands Xinjiang Uighurs to install tracking devices in all cars

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China commands Xinjiang Uighurs to install tracking devices in all cars
China stages massive show of military force in Xinjiang


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Generational Dynamics, China, Xinjiang, Hotan, Urumqi, Kashgar,
Beidou Navigation Satellite System, Zhu Hailun

Thucydides

Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby Thucydides » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:50 pm

How does this situation effect your hypothesis that China will be increasingly allied with the Sunni Muslims?

It is clear that China is generally supporting Pakistan against India. But China is also very much in opposition to the Sufi/Sunni Uighur population, who are increasingly Aligning themselves with the Turkic and Sunni peoples of other lands.

So how do the Uighurs fit into this picture? Who are their historic friends and enemies? What is their generational timeline?

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Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby John » Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:57 pm

Thucydides wrote:> How does this situation effect your hypothesis that China will be
> increasingly allied with the Sunni Muslims?

> It is clear that China is generally supporting Pakistan against
> India. But China is also very much in opposition to the Sufi/Sunni
> Uighur population, who are increasingly Aligning themselves with
> the Turkic and Sunni peoples of other lands.

> So how do the Uighurs fit into this picture? Who are their
> historic friends and enemies? What is their generational
> timeline?


When the Uighurs are forced to choose between fighting on the side of
China versus fighting on the side of China's enemies, they'll choose
China.

Thucydides

Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby Thucydides » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:07 am

When was the last crisis war for the Uighars of Xinjiang? Was it the Chinese Revolution or was that not a crisis war for them? Where they opposed to China at that time or where they united against a common foe?

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Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby John » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:27 am

Thucydides wrote:> When was the last crisis war for the Uighars of Xinjiang? Was it
> the Chinese Revolution or was that not a crisis war for them?
> Where they opposed to China at that time or where they united
> against a common foe?


The last crisis war for the Uighurs was the Communist Revolution civil
war, when the Uighurs were crushed, climaxing in 1949.

There are some pretty good histories of the Uighurs on the internet,
so you can draw your own conclusions. Here are three of them, all of
them are quick reads:

http://www.iuhrdf.org/uyghurs

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http://unpo.org/members/7872

http://www.hunmagyar.org/turan/uygur/

FishbellykanakaDude

Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:34 pm

John wrote:
Thucydides wrote:> How does this situation effect your hypothesis that China will be
> increasingly allied with the Sunni Muslims?

> It is clear that China is generally supporting Pakistan against
> India. But China is also very much in opposition to the Sufi/Sunni
> Uighur population, who are increasingly Aligning themselves with
> the Turkic and Sunni peoples of other lands.

> So how do the Uighurs fit into this picture? Who are their
> historic friends and enemies? What is their generational
> timeline?


When the Uighurs are forced to choose between fighting on the side of
China versus fighting on the side of China's enemies, they'll choose
China.


The "core" of the uyghurs is their "turkmen" identity, so they will side with their "brothers", who will be aligned with the chinese.

When the "great fracturing" of the CS (chinese-sunni) alliance occurs, they will have already prepared themselves (as best they can) to grab their old homeland from the chaos.

The chinese can't make the uyghars an expendable "military unit" to be placed as cannon fodder on some non-uyghar border region, because they'd be too unreliable, so they will be "stationed" in their own territory (which they won't mind) as a buffer.

If they're not obliterated entirely by the nervous chinese, they will hunker down, while "mingling" with their brothers to the west (turkmen) in preparation for the "great fracturing", and halfheartedly "battle the evil Rus/Vikings" until the time is right to "rebel" against their Han oppressors and secure Greater Turkmenistan.

Uyghars are much more uyghar (turkmen) than muslim, and WAY more muslim than Han.

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Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby John » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:35 pm

Thucydides wrote:> How does this situation effect your hypothesis that China will be
> increasingly allied with the Sunni Muslims?

> It is clear that China is generally supporting Pakistan against
> India. But China is also very much in opposition to the Sufi/Sunni
> Uighur population, who are increasingly Aligning themselves with
> the Turkic and Sunni peoples of other lands.

> So how do the Uighurs fit into this picture? Who are their
> historic friends and enemies? What is their generational
> timeline?


John wrote:> When the Uighurs are forced to choose between fighting on the side
> of China versus fighting on the side of China's enemies, they'll
> choose China.


FishbellykanakaDude wrote:> The "core" of the uyghurs is their "turkmen" identity, so they
> will side with their "brothers", who will be aligned with the
> chinese.

> When the "great fracturing" of the CS (chinese-sunni) alliance
> occurs, they will have already prepared themselves (as best they
> can) to grab their old homeland from the chaos.

> The chinese can't make the uyghars an expendable "military unit"
> to be placed as cannon fodder on some non-uyghar border region,
> because they'd be too unreliable, so they will be "stationed" in
> their own territory (which they won't mind) as a buffer.

> If they're not obliterated entirely by the nervous chinese, they
> will hunker down, while "mingling" with their brothers to the west
> (turkmen) in preparation for the "great fracturing", and
> halfheartedly "battle the evil Rus/Vikings" until the time is
> right to "rebel" against their Han oppressors and secure Greater
> Turkmenistan.

> Uyghars are much more uyghar (turkmen) than muslim, and WAY more
> muslim than Han.


That's a great analysis.

Gghy

Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby Gghy » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:44 am

What I want to know is where is western press? Where are the Hollywood celebrities? Surely they wouldn't ignore such a blatant act of islamophobia! Not a single panel was convened on CNN to discuss how racist and bigoted the Chinese are. Not a single democratic politician or college student group have called for a boycott and divestment against China. I'm flabbergasted!

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Re: 22-Feb-17 World View -- China clamps down on Uighurs in Xinjiang province

Postby Guest » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:18 pm

Gghy wrote:What I want to know is where is western press? Where are the Hollywood celebrities? Surely they wouldn't ignore such a blatant act of islamophobia! Not a single panel was convened on CNN to discuss how racist and bigoted the Chinese are. Not a single democratic politician or college student group have called for a boycott and divestment against China. I'm flabbergasted!


The Chinese now own half of Hollywood.


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