26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence
Germany's Der Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalypse Now?
** 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e160726
Contents:
ISIS takes credit for terror attack in Ansbach, southern Germany
Germans in a state of shock after four violent attacks in one week
Knife-wielding massacre near Tokyo Japan kills 19
Germany's Der Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalypse Now?
Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Germany, Ansbach, Mohammed D, Syria, Bulgaria,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Amaq News Agency, France, Germany, Afghanistan, Angela Merkel, Iran,
David Ali Sonboly, Reutlingen, Tokyo, Japan, Satoshi Uematsu,
Der Spiegel, Donald Trump, Solomon, Ecclesiastes
26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalypse
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Jack Edwards
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Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
No idea of the veracity of this link:John said:
On Friday, July 22, a German-born teenager of Iranian descent shot dead nine people in Munich before shooting himself dead. According to police, gunman David Ali Sonboly was inspired by other mass shootings that had no political motivation, such as a school massacre carried out by 17-year-old Tim Kretschmer in Baden-Württemberg in 2009. It would be surprising if someone whose heritage is Iran, which is a Shia Muslim country, were inspired by ISIS or al-Qaeda, which are Sunni Muslim terrorist groups.(emphasis added)
http://shoebat.com/2016/07/23/the-munic ... ro-turkey/
But the author of this linked blog post makes a case that this particular gunman wasn't a young teenager and was likely not Iranian. He compiles some "evidence" from facebook showing links to pro-Turkey Islamist groups. In this day and age of instant access to information - and all sorts of TV shows that solve every murder mystery in 43 minutes, it's easy to believe that moments after an event like this we can and should "know" all the details.
I've read the FBI now concludes that the Orlando shooter wasn't motivated by hatred for homosexuals and that there isn't any evidence he was homosexual - yet that is about opposite of what was initially reported. http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/25/fbi-no ... r-was-gay/
Who knows what's really true?. It appears to me that most journalists are far more interested in promoting a narrative that meets some PC or ratings goal than to simply report fact and truth. As John said, it's doubtful someone who identifies as Iranian would have been inspired by ISIS or Al-Quaeda.
Regards,
Jack
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Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
I disagree. A Shia could have been inspired by ISIS-to kill Westerners. Just like the homosexual in Florida. They might not have been true soldiers of ISIS, but that group has given a lot of screw-ups a chance to become famous (or infamous).
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Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
" Generational Dynamics also predicts that there are no solutions to these problems except another world war."
I've been thinking this for years even before I began reading GD.com, my worry is that my generation simply won't be up for the task. At least the GG Had an economic depression to toughen them up after the roaring 20s, and a much greater proportion of the population was rural, agrarian, and better able to support themselves.
I've always understood this intuitively I think as I'm a millennial who was raised mostly by my grandparents, my grandmother was a nurse in Chichester during the blitz and met my grandfather, a young lieutenant in the Canadian army, in hospital after the removal of a chunk of shrapnel put there by the 12th SS. He brought her back to Canada and I had the good fortune of benefiting from their wisdom. To me the war is not just a black and white photo, it's a huge part of my reality.
I worry for the future of the west. I just don't think people my age are up for this challenge, I'm not sure I will be for that matter and I'm not sure they believe in or understand what they would be fighting for. I often worry that one day I will have to stand before my fathers, in whose mighty company I will feel ashamed.
I've been thinking this for years even before I began reading GD.com, my worry is that my generation simply won't be up for the task. At least the GG Had an economic depression to toughen them up after the roaring 20s, and a much greater proportion of the population was rural, agrarian, and better able to support themselves.
I've always understood this intuitively I think as I'm a millennial who was raised mostly by my grandparents, my grandmother was a nurse in Chichester during the blitz and met my grandfather, a young lieutenant in the Canadian army, in hospital after the removal of a chunk of shrapnel put there by the 12th SS. He brought her back to Canada and I had the good fortune of benefiting from their wisdom. To me the war is not just a black and white photo, it's a huge part of my reality.
I worry for the future of the west. I just don't think people my age are up for this challenge, I'm not sure I will be for that matter and I'm not sure they believe in or understand what they would be fighting for. I often worry that one day I will have to stand before my fathers, in whose mighty company I will feel ashamed.
Politics is war by other means
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B Pascal
Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
John,
Overpopulation is a myth. Please visit the website pop.org to learn the truth, here are some excerpts from the site:
"(O)verpopulation is defined as a problem created by the numbers of people, not their behaviors. If every person demanded his or her own continent or island, the world would seem “overpopulated” very quickly.
Let’s keep these things in mind as we consider the argument that the earth, as a closed environment, is overpopulated. Is Spaceship Earth (as they like to call it), running out of resources? Let’s evaluate:
1) “Food: there isn’t enough!” Since the time of Thomas Malthus, who lived in the early 1800s, doomsayers have gloomily predicted that mankind would outbreed its food supply, resulting in catastrophic famines. Yet the world currently produces enough food to feed 10 billion people, and there are only 7 billion of us. That is, with 7 billion human minds at work, we produce enough food for 10 billion human bodies.[1] Imagine how much food we can produce with 10 billion minds!
“But there are still hungry people in the world!” Yes, hunger remains a problem in some parts of the world, but it is not caused by the number of people. Commenting on the recent Somali famine, Oxfam, an international humanitarian organization, stated, “Famines are not natural phenomena, they are catastrophic political failures.”
“Well, we got lucky with the Green Revolution, and food production shot up, but we can’t count on something like that to occur again!” Why not? There is no reason to think that we are running out of human ingenuity. If anything, a larger population means more opportunities for the kind of scientific collaboration and increased specialization that results in such scientific leaps forward.
“Ok, but humans now eat higher up the food chain that we used to. We can’t keep that up and still have enough for everyone!” Sure, people in the developed nations eat more meat, which require much more energy input per calorie eaten than if we ate grains and plant proteins. But that doesn’t mean that we will run out of food. We are eating higher energy foods because they are relatively cheaper than they used to be—and prices don’t fall when goods are scarce. The falling price of high energy foods indicates that they are becoming more plentiful, not less so. According to the World Education Service, “world agriculture produces 17% more calories per person today than it did 30 years ago...This is enough to provide everyone in the world with at least 2,720 kilocalories (kcal) per person per day.”
2) “We are running out of water!” The earth is awash in water. Oceans cover 70 percent of the planet’s surface to an average depth of 6,000 feet. That’s why the earth looks blue from space. You cannot use up or destroy water; you can only change its state (from liquid to solid or gas) or contaminate it so that it is undrinkable.
“That’s a great theory, but if I’m thirsty, theory doesn’t mean much to me. There is not enough fresh water for everyone!” There is! Since 1900, freshwater withdrawals (i.e. production of usable water) have increased much faster than the human population has increased. Freshwater withdrawals have increased seven-fold since 1900 while the world population has increased only four-fold.[2] This suggests our ability to access usable water increases faster than population growth.
“Tell that to the people living in the Sahel!” You’re correct, lack of water is a serious humanitarian issue. But it is not an overpopulation issue. Water, although plentiful, can be difficult to move to those who need it, hence local water scarcity. As Karen Bakker (2003) states: "Water is one of the heaviest substances mobilized by human beings in their daily search for subsistence....Water is expensive to transport relative to value per unit volume, requiring large-scale capital investments in infrastructure networks which act as an effective barrier.” In other words, we need more dams, canals, and pipelines, not more abortion, contraception and sterilizations.
3) “But we’re growing exponentially!” Um,...No. We’re not. We are growing, but definitely not at an exponential rate. In fact, our rates of growth are declining. Between 1950 and 2000, the world population grew at a rate of 1.76%. Between 2000 and 2050, it is expected to grow by 0.77 percent.[3] So yes, because 0.77 is greater than zero, it is a positive growth rate, and the world population will continue to grow.
Most of this growth will come from developing countries—their life expectancies are expected to shoot up in the next 50 years, contributing to their population growth. Africa’s growth is not something to worry about.
Europe’s decline, however, is something to worry about. A UN report titled “World Population to 2300” paints a picture of Europe’s future if European fertility rates don’t rise above current levels: “The European Union, which has recently expanded to encompass 452-455 million people (according to 2000-2005 figures) would fall by 2300 to only 59 million. About half the countries of Europe would lose 95 per cent or more of their population, and such countries as the Russian Federation and Italy would have only 1 per cent of their population left.” In other words, the French, German, Italians and British will virtually cease to exist. Arrivederci, Roma!
Other fun thoughts:
- Human knowledge can be passed on through the written and spoken word in ways that evolutionary or biological advantages can’t be.
- Demographers estimate that at least 20 billion people lived on earth between the years 8000 B.C. and 0 A.D. (That’s right, the idea that half of all people who have ever lived are alive currently is a myth!)[4]
- Plankton make up 3 times more biomass than all 7 billion humans combined.[5]
- Every man, woman, and child on earth could each have 5 acres of land. [6]
- Every man, woman, and child on earth could each have a half acre of arable land.[7]
- If we wanted to squeeze close, everyone in the world could stand shoulder-to-shoulder on the island of Zanzibar.[8]
- About 48% of all people live in a country with below-replacement fertility.[9]
- The global total fertility rate is 2.53 children per woman.[10]"
- By 2050, Nigeria is projected to have a larger population than the United States.[11]
- See more at: https://www.pop.org/content/debunking-m ... UYWDm.dpuf
Please read more on the topic John
B Pascal
Overpopulation is a myth. Please visit the website pop.org to learn the truth, here are some excerpts from the site:
"(O)verpopulation is defined as a problem created by the numbers of people, not their behaviors. If every person demanded his or her own continent or island, the world would seem “overpopulated” very quickly.
Let’s keep these things in mind as we consider the argument that the earth, as a closed environment, is overpopulated. Is Spaceship Earth (as they like to call it), running out of resources? Let’s evaluate:
1) “Food: there isn’t enough!” Since the time of Thomas Malthus, who lived in the early 1800s, doomsayers have gloomily predicted that mankind would outbreed its food supply, resulting in catastrophic famines. Yet the world currently produces enough food to feed 10 billion people, and there are only 7 billion of us. That is, with 7 billion human minds at work, we produce enough food for 10 billion human bodies.[1] Imagine how much food we can produce with 10 billion minds!
“But there are still hungry people in the world!” Yes, hunger remains a problem in some parts of the world, but it is not caused by the number of people. Commenting on the recent Somali famine, Oxfam, an international humanitarian organization, stated, “Famines are not natural phenomena, they are catastrophic political failures.”
“Well, we got lucky with the Green Revolution, and food production shot up, but we can’t count on something like that to occur again!” Why not? There is no reason to think that we are running out of human ingenuity. If anything, a larger population means more opportunities for the kind of scientific collaboration and increased specialization that results in such scientific leaps forward.
“Ok, but humans now eat higher up the food chain that we used to. We can’t keep that up and still have enough for everyone!” Sure, people in the developed nations eat more meat, which require much more energy input per calorie eaten than if we ate grains and plant proteins. But that doesn’t mean that we will run out of food. We are eating higher energy foods because they are relatively cheaper than they used to be—and prices don’t fall when goods are scarce. The falling price of high energy foods indicates that they are becoming more plentiful, not less so. According to the World Education Service, “world agriculture produces 17% more calories per person today than it did 30 years ago...This is enough to provide everyone in the world with at least 2,720 kilocalories (kcal) per person per day.”
2) “We are running out of water!” The earth is awash in water. Oceans cover 70 percent of the planet’s surface to an average depth of 6,000 feet. That’s why the earth looks blue from space. You cannot use up or destroy water; you can only change its state (from liquid to solid or gas) or contaminate it so that it is undrinkable.
“That’s a great theory, but if I’m thirsty, theory doesn’t mean much to me. There is not enough fresh water for everyone!” There is! Since 1900, freshwater withdrawals (i.e. production of usable water) have increased much faster than the human population has increased. Freshwater withdrawals have increased seven-fold since 1900 while the world population has increased only four-fold.[2] This suggests our ability to access usable water increases faster than population growth.
“Tell that to the people living in the Sahel!” You’re correct, lack of water is a serious humanitarian issue. But it is not an overpopulation issue. Water, although plentiful, can be difficult to move to those who need it, hence local water scarcity. As Karen Bakker (2003) states: "Water is one of the heaviest substances mobilized by human beings in their daily search for subsistence....Water is expensive to transport relative to value per unit volume, requiring large-scale capital investments in infrastructure networks which act as an effective barrier.” In other words, we need more dams, canals, and pipelines, not more abortion, contraception and sterilizations.
3) “But we’re growing exponentially!” Um,...No. We’re not. We are growing, but definitely not at an exponential rate. In fact, our rates of growth are declining. Between 1950 and 2000, the world population grew at a rate of 1.76%. Between 2000 and 2050, it is expected to grow by 0.77 percent.[3] So yes, because 0.77 is greater than zero, it is a positive growth rate, and the world population will continue to grow.
Most of this growth will come from developing countries—their life expectancies are expected to shoot up in the next 50 years, contributing to their population growth. Africa’s growth is not something to worry about.
Europe’s decline, however, is something to worry about. A UN report titled “World Population to 2300” paints a picture of Europe’s future if European fertility rates don’t rise above current levels: “The European Union, which has recently expanded to encompass 452-455 million people (according to 2000-2005 figures) would fall by 2300 to only 59 million. About half the countries of Europe would lose 95 per cent or more of their population, and such countries as the Russian Federation and Italy would have only 1 per cent of their population left.” In other words, the French, German, Italians and British will virtually cease to exist. Arrivederci, Roma!
Other fun thoughts:
- Human knowledge can be passed on through the written and spoken word in ways that evolutionary or biological advantages can’t be.
- Demographers estimate that at least 20 billion people lived on earth between the years 8000 B.C. and 0 A.D. (That’s right, the idea that half of all people who have ever lived are alive currently is a myth!)[4]
- Plankton make up 3 times more biomass than all 7 billion humans combined.[5]
- Every man, woman, and child on earth could each have 5 acres of land. [6]
- Every man, woman, and child on earth could each have a half acre of arable land.[7]
- If we wanted to squeeze close, everyone in the world could stand shoulder-to-shoulder on the island of Zanzibar.[8]
- About 48% of all people live in a country with below-replacement fertility.[9]
- The global total fertility rate is 2.53 children per woman.[10]"
- By 2050, Nigeria is projected to have a larger population than the United States.[11]
- See more at: https://www.pop.org/content/debunking-m ... UYWDm.dpuf
Please read more on the topic John
B Pascal
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Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
I'd recommend you look into some of the stuff John wrote on this subject a while to get some context.B Pascal said:
John,
Overpopulation is a myth.
http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... #lab100443
Scroll down to Malthus effect.
Personally, I've found John's explanation to make more sense than about anything else I've read on this subject. I hear way too many people going on about over-population and how we need to curtail population growth, and I hear way too many people saying - full steam ahead - it's all myth.
Remember too, it's not just running out of food that drives people to war, it's the perception that they are going to run out of food. Our ancestors of a couple hundred years ago probably had a very different threshold for worry than we have today.
Also remember - that if you're against GMO - you are for starving somebody somewhere someday - which means you're for war. I so often read people going off against GMO and not making the connection of what would happen if we didn't continue to increase our ability to grow food.
Regards,
Jack
Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
This reminds me of this very funny 'Half-Hour, News Hour' video looking for commonalities in attacks:John wrote:There's a thread of mental instability that runs through these attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8cRvZZv44
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Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
Norman Borlaug > Thomas Malthus
Hands down.
Hands down.
Politics is war by other means
Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
In the sense that in today's world anything is possible, it's possibleGet out of the way wrote: > I disagree. A Shia could have been inspired by ISIS-to kill
> Westerners. Just like the homosexual in Florida. They might not
> have been true soldiers of ISIS, but that group has given a lot of
> screw-ups a chance to become famous (or infamous).
that a Shia could be inspired by ISIS to kill Westerners. The problem
is that Shias do not hate Westerners nearly as much as Shias hate
ISIS, so for a Shia to follow the directions of a hated enemy like
ISIS could be considered blasphemy. If a Shia wanted to kill
Westerners, he would never turn to ISIS for inspiration, but he might
turn to Hezbollah for inspiration.
Re: 26-Jul-16 World View -- People in Germany are reeling after a week of violence / Spiegel asks: Is this the Apocalyps
Coordinated fires wrote: > "Generational Dynamics also predicts that there are no solutions
> to these problems except another world war."
> I've been thinking this for years even before I began reading
> GD.com, my worry is that my generation simply won't be up for the
> task. At least the GG Had an economic depression to toughen them
> up after the roaring 20s, and a much greater proportion of the
> population was rural, agrarian, and better able to support
> themselves.
> I've always understood this intuitively I think as I'm a
> millennial who was raised mostly by my grandparents, my
> grandmother was a nurse in Chichester during the blitz and met my
> grandfather, a young lieutenant in the Canadian army, in hospital
> after the removal of a chunk of shrapnel put there by the 12th
> SS. He brought her back to Canada and I had the good fortune of
> benefiting from their wisdom. To me the war is not just a black
> and white photo, it's a huge part of my reality.
> I worry for the future of the west. I just don't think people my
> age are up for this challenge, I'm not sure I will be for that
> matter and I'm not sure they believe in or understand what they
> would be fighting for. I often worry that one day I will have to
> stand before my fathers, in whose mighty company I will feel
> ashamed.
Trevor has expressed the same concerns before in this forum.
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 305#p30305
Your generation is the next "greatest generation." When the
time comes, your generation will not hesitate for a nanosecond
to fight for America.
In generational theory, the trigger for this is the "regeneracy," the
time when politics is put aside, and civil unity is regenerated for
the first time since the end of the preceding crisis war. In 1941,
the regeneracy was caused by Pearl Harbor and then by the Bataan Death
March. We don't know what it will be this time, but of course it will
be something.
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