12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland /The 'New IRA' / Easter Rising

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12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland /The 'New IRA' / Easter Rising

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12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland

The 'New IRA' recalls the 1916 Easter Rising against British rule

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England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland
The 'New IRA' recalls the 1916 Easter Rising against British rule


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Generational Dynamics, Northern Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales,
New IRA, Irish Republican Army, MI5, Theresa May,
Easter Rising, Catholics, Protestants, Nine Years War,
Ulster Plantation

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Re: 12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland /The 'New IRA' / Easter Rising

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Ireland's generational timeline has always been intriguing to me, The Troubles in particular. Ireland's last crisis war was without a doubt the War of Independence and the Irish Civil War, 1919-1923. But that means that The Troubles were being fought during a crisis era (1981-1999), without exploding into a new crisis civil war, so Ireland's current generational era has been a bit confusing, sometimes leading me to wonder if its in a recovery era or early awakening era. However, this combined with the earlier economic crisis of 2008 would indicate that Ireland is still deep into a crisis era, and it would appear that the IRA and Irish sectarian politics will play a role in the coming Clash of Civilizations War.

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jmm1184 wrote: > Ireland's generational timeline has always been intriguing to me,
> The Troubles in particular. Ireland's last crisis war was without
> a doubt the War of Independence and the Irish Civil War,
> 1919-1923. But that means that The Troubles were being fought
> during a crisis era (1981-1999), without exploding into a new
> crisis civil war, so Ireland's current generational era has been a
> bit confusing, sometimes leading me to wonder if its in a recovery
> era or early awakening era. However, this combined with the
> earlier economic crisis of 2008 would indicate that Ireland is
> still deep into a crisis era, and it would appear that the IRA and
> Irish sectarian politics will play a role in the coming Clash of
> Civilizations War.
Ireland's generational timeline is extremely confounding because
the potato famine affected it in some incomprehensible way.
At any rate, here's what I have in my notes about the
last couple of centuries:

> Ireland -- Irish Rebellion of 1798 -- 1793-1798
> Ireland -- Potato Famine -- 1845-1849
> Ireland -- Revolution + Civil War -- 1913-1924

There was a lot of interesting discussion about Ireland in
two Ireland threads, that are now preserved in the
Fourth Turning forum archive:

http://generationaldynamics.com/tftarch ... -00001.htm
http://generationaldynamics.com/tftarch ... -00001.htm

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Re: 12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland /The 'New IRA' / Easter Rising

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Ireland's generational timeline is extremely confounding because
the potato famine affected it in some incomprehensible way.
At any rate, here's what I have in my notes about the
last couple of centuries:

> Ireland -- Irish Rebellion of 1798 -- 1793-1798
> Ireland -- Potato Famine -- 1845-1849
> Ireland -- Revolution + Civil War -- 1913-1924
One thing I'll need to look into is the impact of the American Civil War on the Irish. No doubt for the Irish-American community I have see a kind of extended/blended crisis war of the Potato Famine, facing xenophobia in America, and then the American Civil War. However, there were still lots of emigrants from Ireland after the potato famine and even during the American Civil War, so that I have wondered if the American Civil War was a crisis war for Ireland as well.

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Re: 12-May-16 World View -- England threatened with IRA terrorists from Northern Ireland /The 'New IRA' / Easter Rising

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jmm1184 wrote: > One thing I'll need to look into is the impact of the American
> Civil War on the Irish. No doubt for the Irish-American community
> I have see a kind of extended/blended crisis war of the Potato
> Famine, facing xenophobia in America, and then the American Civil
> War. However, there were still lots of emigrants from Ireland
> after the potato famine and even during the American Civil War, so
> that I have wondered if the American Civil War was a crisis war
> for Ireland as well.
As you may recall, back in 2005 I did an analysis of countries that
were producing terrorists, based on statistics by Robert Pape, and
they were all countries in a Fifth Turning.

Today, Mexico, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are all Fifth Turning
countries, and all are producing terrorists.

If we assume that Ireland's last crisis war was the 1913-24 revolution
and civil war, then Ireland is also in a Fifth Turning, and that would
explain the increase in terrorism.

This is all theoretical, but it seems to fit.

Millenial83

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Post by Millenial83 »

Wow John,

A whole article about the "scary" IRA yet not a peep about the capital of the UK, London, falling to Muslim rule as evidenced by the Mayoral Election. How long will you ignore the Clash of Civilizations War you say is coming?

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