23-Sep-15 World View -- Europe's refugee crisis revives Ottoman Empire fault lines

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23-Sep-15 World View -- Europe's refugee crisis revives Ottoman Empire fault lines


EU votes to distribute 120,000 refugees among countries by quota

** 23-Sep-15 World View -- Europe's refugee crisis revives Ottoman Empire fault lines
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EU votes to distribute 120,000 refugees among countries by quota
Hungary's Viktor Orbán invokes memories of Ottoman Empire


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Generational Dynamics, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary,
Robert Fico, Milos Zeman, Poland, Viktor Orbán,
Ottoman Empire, Bosnian War

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I have grave doubts that any/all religions have crime problems. Sure, back in 1500 BC, the mass exodus of Israeli's travelling from Egypt had some clashes but only defended themselves when attacked. Since then the other mass migration was between 1875 and 1925 were maybe 3 million Jews came to US. They had nothing. What happened? They quickly established their own support structures and provided modest financial support within their own communities.

Please cite what riots on streets and other violent crimes have the Jews portrayed? Oh, and also, when a huge bunch went back to Israel, in the land they occupied 2 thousand years ago which there is historical/archaeological proof they occupied 1,000 years earlier, after which they formed a government and a gave rebirth to a shattered nation. The OUTRAGE!! that caused.

Your broad-brushed statements sometimes don't seem warranted.

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"Please cite what riots on streets and other violent crimes have the Jews portrayed?" ..... THE RED TERROR IN RUSSIA FOR ONE! Every bit as nasty. That 1917 Russian revolution, founded and orchestrated by Jews, ranks right up there. Jewish DNA is not exempt .... and there are many other examples as well but it only takes one to make the point.

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John wrote:So, as I said, I have some sympathy for Orbán's allusion to Ottoman atrocities -- but not because those atrocities were unique in any way, but rather because they're so common, and so much a part of the human DNA -- every human's DNA.
If you look around the world there are a bunch of ongoing violent conflicts. Almost all of the conflicts have Muslims on at least one side. Since some have Muslims on both sides the average conflict really does have Muslims on one side. These days it is rare to see Christians fighting Buddhist, or Jews fighting Athiests or whatever, it is almost always Muslims vs something. If you look at the Koran this is not too surprising. It is a plan to fight till the whole world is subjugated. Atrocities are part of the DNA of the Koran. People up against such violence get violent back. Without that book the world would be a lot less violent right now.

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John wrote: > So, as I said, I have some sympathy for Orbán's allusion to
> Ottoman atrocities -- but not because those atrocities were unique
> in any way, but rather because they're so common, and so much a
> part of the human DNA -- every human's DNA.
vincecate wrote: > If you look around the world there are a bunch of ongoing violent
> conflicts. Almost all of the conflicts have Muslims on at least
> one side. Since some have Muslims on both sides the average
> conflict really does have Muslims on one side. These days it is
> rare to see Christians fighting Buddhist, or Jews fighting
> Athiests or whatever, it is almost always Muslims vs something.
> If you look at the Koran this is not too surprising. It is a plan
> to fight till the whole world is subjugated. Atrocities are part
> of the DNA of the Koran. People up against such violence get
> violent back. Without that book the world would be a lot less
> violent right now.
The observation you're making is something that's true at this moment
in history. And I've written many times that there are thousands of
Muslims being killed in wars today, mostly by other Muslims in the
Mideast.

However, this wasn't true during WW II, and I wouldn't expect it to be
true ten years from now. You can't make generalizations about "the
DNA of the Koran" based on one point in history, just as you can't
judge all of Christianity from just the Holocaust, or from just
the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.

Furthermore, 1/3 of the world's population is Muslim. If we assume
that there are two sides in every war, we would expect Muslims to be
involved in one side or the other in 2/3 of the wars -- just on the
basis of pure probabilities. So the fact that Muslims are involved in
most of today's wars today really isn't that remarkable.

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There's an article on Breitbart on today's stampede disaster
at the Hajj. It's getting hundreds of comments, and they
all say pretty much the same thing.

I know that a lot of people agree with these comments, including
members of this forum, but I find these comments sickening.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur ... ear-mecca/

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Baraldinho • a minute ago

A fella is taking a nice brisk walk along the White Cliffs of Dover and he sees a man standing near the edge weeping. Thinking the crying man might be thinking of suicide hurries over to try to talk him out of it. "Are you OK?" he asks the crying man.
"What? Oh yeah, i'm fine." replies the man, "But I've just seen a terrible tragedy," he continues, "a bus full of muslims from Bradford on their way to the Calais ferry for a pilgrimage to Mecca lost control on the road there and drove off and over the cliff." And he points to the wreckage of a coach far below in the crashing surf.
"But thats wonderful news!" exclaims the walking man,"Why are you crying?"
The crying man looks up at him, eyes brimming with tears and sobs,"There was an empty seat at the back of the bus!"


---- Ethel Kennedy • 4 minutes ago

Allah wills it! And I love it! A dead muzzy is a good muzzy!


---- Slobodan_Jewbaccavich • 5 minutes ago

Muhammad would be very happy with these numbers.


---- Sammy • 6 minutes ago

Oh the humanities! Oh wait it was muslemes? Never mind.


---- Dick Delaware • 7 minutes ago

Pilgrims more like terrorists


---- Slobodan_Jewbaccavich • 7 minutes ago

This is even better than the 200 that the crane killed.


---- eclectic • 7 minutes ago

Like a Muslim burning man, but without the fun.


---- Slobodan_Jewbaccavich • 8 minutes ago

Woo hoo! Party time!


---- Nunzio Business • 8 minutes ago

Replace "Over 700" with "Not enough". Thank you.

Is it too ironic that these imbeciles worship a Borg cube?
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---- disqus_b3gwsSWZi6 • 8 minutes ago

The religion of peace huh! Lets have more of these Hajj,es


---- damickman • 9 minutes ago

700 less goat fer's to worry about..


---- popeye2010 • 12 minutes ago

They shouldn't have opened the wholesale goat emporium.


---- Sir Rock Alot • 15 minutes ago

They really need to get rid of that worthless trash of paper called the Koran and realize that it's lies twisted from the truth of the Holy Bible.
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---- john smith • 17 minutes ago

please, more ham ed


---- Flyitupsidedown • 19 minutes ago

Now that's the kind of refugees I'm talking about.


---- spfoam1 • 19 minutes ago

I'd pay for a video of the event.
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---- popeye2010 spfoam1 • 15 minutes ago

Dub in a track of Benny Hill's 'Yakkity Sax'.
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---- Bucko1 • 19 minutes ago

I would assume the stampede was not caused by the offer of "free BBQ pork ribs, and cold beer"? Or, maybe it was.


---- Tired of it • 20 minutes ago

I read the whole article, but I missed how the stampede started. Or is that the idea for flocking there every year?


---- eamonkelly • 20 minutes ago

insh'allah


---- PatAz • 21 minutes ago

Good start


---- Mr E • 24 minutes ago

That nutty Allah - continuing the long, proud tradition of culling his own at every Hajj
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---- Artful Codger • 26 minutes ago

Perhaps a cogent thought, or moment of primal lucidity landed in the middle of the herd, and scared them. ...Cattle...Third world garbage.


---- Conservative4Life • 27 minutes ago

Inshallah before the end of this century we will see a mushroom cloud rise above the terrorist cities of Mecca and Medina.
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---- anotherday • 27 minutes ago

717 is a good start.
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---- Lionel Mandrake, Grp. Cpt. • 32 minutes ago

"Nobody went there…it was too crowded!" ….Yogi Berra, 1925-2015
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---- TALONWING • 35 minutes ago

WTF happened? Someone dropped a bag of pork rinds in the middle of the intersection? Details please.
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---- wat_u_talkin_bout_willis • an hour ago

Let me guess....Mohamed forgot his ATM card and couldn't buy pebbles....so be bent over to pick some up, and people tripped over him??
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---- Cody • an hour ago

That's what they get for not installing those cattle guards, cheap bastages.


---- Baraldinho • an hour ago

I suppose this evening at the Whitehouse, that weird pontificating man in a dress will commiserate with Obama about the tragic deaths of so many of his co-religionists. And after Michelle has finished that then the pope will give his sympathies.
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---- Mark McQueen Baraldinho • 41 minutes ago

Lol.


---- Peter Hyatt • an hour ago

1500 dead and injured without a single bullet or bomb; all while going to pray in the "religion of peace." When Ishamael cannot find an enemy, he turns on himself.


---- wat_u_talkin_bout_willis • an hour ago

Maybe "the devil" doesn't like having pebbles thrown at him by men in skirts??
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---- pithy repartee • an hour ago

Hell's burning about 717 degrees hotter this morning.
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---- Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

The cause of the stampede has been confirmed by the MSM. Global warming.
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---- Peter Hyatt Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

False reporting! George Bush caused the stampede, said Obama.
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---- Baraldinho Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

Well there seems to be a warming after the event in non islamic areas of the globe. Its the feel good story of the week.
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---- Talesin • an hour ago

Civilized?
Not so much.
And these would be our masters.
Remember that, when you support islam.
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---- Roux_504 • an hour ago

I don't remember this happening at church Sunday...Thank God
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---- wat_u_talkin_bout_willis Roux_504 • an hour ago

Maybe on the way out the door if a football game is on. Especially if brother meinard is droning on about salvation........yeah yeah....speed it up a bit brother meinard......


---- SixdoublefiveThreetwoone Roux_504 • an hour ago

Yeah, but just wait till Easter or Palm Sunday. And look out for Christmas, those Wal Mart worshipers are the worst!


---- Hayek • an hour ago

How sad...sad that there are not several more numbers after the last 7
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---- ObozoMustGo Hayek • an hour ago

like 7 or 8 zeros
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---- Hayek ObozoMustGo • an hour ago

Hopefully next time
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---- tanstaafl • an hour ago

Even the hajj is deadly.
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---- Conservo Luchador tanstaafl • an hour ago

And if the feet don't get you, the armpits definitely will!
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---- neocon tanstaafl • an hour ago

allah likes blood


---- ChuckDeSpears • an hour ago

If this sort of thing happens at the beginning of the annual Hajj, my only suggestion is that they make it a weekly event.
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---- Baraldinho • an hour ago

Sandalmageddon?
The flip-flopalypse?
Mecca mob mayhem, many muslims mushed.

At least out there in the sandy desert wastes, some camels' arse's are safe for tonight.
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---- Cody Baraldinho • an hour ago

haha I chuckled.


---- SixdoublefiveThreetwoone Baraldinho • an hour ago

Hajj Pit?
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---- Alphabet_Soup • an hour ago

"Doing the jobs Americans won't do"
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---- Baraldinho Alphabet_Soup • an hour ago

Bravo sir or madam.
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---- Alphabet_Soup Baraldinho • an hour ago

;')


---- thatindividual • an hour ago

where are the trolls? are they grieving?
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---- Cody thatindividual • an hour ago

I think Lily may have been one of the stampeded.
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---- cadgbd • an hour ago

Bugs Bunny Theme - This Is It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
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---- Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

Nothing worse for a Sunni than getting some Shiite on your new sandals!
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---- SixdoublefiveThreetwoone • an hour ago

God is Great!
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---- MimiMischa • an hour ago

The people who stampeeded the other people to death probably don't feel bad about it.


---- wilsonsuds • an hour ago

Just was not enough....
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---- Head chimp • an hour ago

This was caused by that global warming that the pope and Obama talk about all the time


---- Silverballoon • an hour ago

717 rounds of ammo saved.
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---- Factory_Hag • an hour ago

This is terrible. To think that I was more worried about ISIS carrying out its threat to bomb it. It's awful to think of all those people, saving for years for the biggest day of their lives, and having it be the last. There are loved ones who sent them off on this, possibly with some nervousness, but for the most part hoping to hear stories of their travels and accept some little souvenir on their return, who are seeing the news and wondering if their loved one is among the dead. It might be days before they know, but they know now that a number that high and climbing doesn't bode well.


---- ObozoMustGo • an hour ago

And you thought the place stunk like dirty camels before..... just sayin
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----- • ---- an hour ago

WoW!! Allah is really pissed!!


---- Peter Hyatt ----- • an hour ago

Did someone yell, "Allah Akbar"?


---- thatindividual • an hour ago

was Obama in there anywhere?
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---- Cody thatindividual • an hour ago

Don't tease me with a good time.


---- neocon • an hour ago

Its so crowded that it just takes synchronous farting to create havoc there


---- Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

Maybe they should consider adding those speed limit signs now.


---- thatindividual • an hour ago

oh dear, I have a feeling there are going to be some funnies on this page.


---- Head chimp • an hour ago

The 717 dead will be replaced in a matter of hours.


---- Mela • an hour ago

Do you think they get it yet?


---- neocon • an hour ago

whats Hajj without generous bloodshed


---- paevo • an hour ago

That's what stoning the Devil gets you...


---- Putin on the Ritz • an hour ago

717 dead from stampede, about 100 dead from a falling crane. All at Mecca.
SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT START!
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---- Mela • an hour ago

Still not feeling bad about the crane falling down in Mecca. Probably won't feel bad about this either.
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---- 12wlw12 • an hour ago

Wonder what would happen if someone spray painted 'Allah' on those three stone columns in the middle of the night?
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---- Sovereign_Citizen • an hour ago

Nice...this has made my day!:) Anytime muslims die, whether one at a time or in groups....it is a great day and mankind automatically improves.

Can I get a Nuclear Amen?:)
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---- Putin on the Ritz Sovereign_Citizen • an hour ago

AMEN!
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---- Quetzalcoatl • an hour ago

The moral of this story is to never cry "naked boy!" at a Muslim religious festival..
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---- ObozoMustGo Quetzalcoatl • an hour ago

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Or... "here come the goats"


---- Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

This is what happens for offering free prayer mats to the first 700 people with blood on their sandles.


---- neocon • an hour ago

This incident raises important questions like whether the deceased are eligible for 72 virgins.
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---- Conservo Luchador neocon • an hour ago

Only if they were stomped to death with flip flops made by a Christian.
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---- Head chimp • an hour ago

The Muslims were tripping over their burlap bag dresses.


---- SayNoToTheEstablishment • an hour ago

Well there's 717 fewer we have to worry about.
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---- Conservo Luchador SayNoToTheEstablishment • an hour ago

I really hope the count comes to 911.
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---- neocon Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

Add up the crane victims and we will be there almost.


---- J***h2 • an hour ago

Ooops!
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---- Thunder_Shorts • an hour ago

It bothers me that I can read this story with an increasingly broadening grin on my face. I feel bad that I don't feel bad about this double-plus-good "tragedy".
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---- Baraldinho Thunder_Shorts • an hour ago

You're a bad man, a very bad man.

By the way, my grin is starting to hurt my face now, hows your's bearing up?
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---- Ligaya Barlow • an hour ago

http://www.nationalreview.com/...


---- clmsadjman • an hour ago

700 less jihadest that we have to deal with. It always better when they kill each other than our invention they are really good at too.
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---- MKDAWUSS • an hour ago

Let me guess: It's Trump's Fault.
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---- Captain_America • an hour ago

One billion more to go then.
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---- Conservative4Life • an hour ago

Breaking news: At least 25 killed in Yemen after blast in mosque.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2...

Allah not so Akbar...


---- David Burney • an hour ago

Just 700 less bomb makers,bomb testers and wester haters to deal with.no tear shed here
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---- deadhead • an hour ago

What were they trampled by? Pigs maybe.
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---- spacecommander • an hour ago

:-)


---- HARP2 • an hour ago

Were they running from falling cranes ?


---- neocon • an hour ago

Devil 2 Allah 0


---- J***h2 neocon • an hour ago

They are one in the same!
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---- Sir Rock Alot J***h2 • an hour ago

A man in the know.


---- RiseLiberty • an hour ago

Behold His mighty hand.
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---- Conservative4Life • an hour ago

Can someone send a fax to CAIR in DC with the following:

"You MAD bro?"
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---- Kevin Brent • an hour ago

Wild animals sometimes do this.
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---- Conservo Luchador • an hour ago

Do they get 72 virgins if they are trampled to death, or is that just after self-detonation?
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---- Head chimp • an hour ago

I suppose we will have to increase the number of Muslim refugees that we take in due to the stampede
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---- Karl Magnus Head chimp • an hour ago

Only if they need American medical expertise ya know.
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---- Hank_Scorpio Head chimp • an hour ago

On the contrary, there should be more room for them over there now, no?
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---- Head chimp Hank_Scorpio • an hour ago

Not according to Obama logic
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---- Hank_Scorpio Head chimp • an hour ago

Well there's a contradiction in terms....
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---- Thunder_Shorts Hank_Scorpio • an hour ago

"Obama logic" the very definition of an oxymoron.
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---- Karl Magnus • an hour ago

Social Darwinism as practiced by "tolerant" peoples everywhere.
I say ya gotta drain the swamp, son.
~(Ä)~


---- John F Madison • 2 hours ago

oh no....


---- fatback • 2 hours ago

Poor people that's a hard way to go.....
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---- Conservo Luchador fatback • an hour ago

Their arrival on the other side will be much worse!


---- Karl Magnus fatback • an hour ago

*sniff*


---- Kenya_Diggit • 2 hours ago

Should I feel bad??? Let me think back...way back. About 14 yeas ago...
https://youtu.be/KrM0dAFsZ8k


---- MKDAWUSS • 2 hours ago

Has Obama released a statement?


---- Quetzalcoatl MKDAWUSS • an hour ago

Maybe after banging his head on the floor (facing east) ;)
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---- beer25 • 2 hours ago

As I look at the photo of mecca I keep hearing the lyrics " Lets drop the big one and see what happens" from Randy Newmans song sail away.
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---- Conservative4Life beer25 • an hour ago

Medina would like a big one too...
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---- ObozoMustGo • 2 hours ago

717 down, 1.2 Billion to go!

Aloha Snackbar!!! :-)
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---- neocon • 2 hours ago

right now imams are frantically analyzing koran to check if people who died in Hajj stampede are eligible for 72 v****ns
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---- Thionite • 2 hours ago

Judge a tree by its fruits.
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---- Thunder_Shorts Thionite • an hour ago

The "tree" of islam you judge by it's nuts.


---- neocon • 2 hours ago

are you folks feeling the peace in the air or is it just me ?
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---- WhiteGuy2 • 2 hours ago

Karma
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---- Longhunter • 2 hours ago

717 Dead Muslims.

I call that a good start.
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---- Ivor Biggin • 2 hours ago

Hell's got another 717 people burning in it now.
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---- Hayek • 2 hours ago

I just had a feeling today was going to be real good day.
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---- Muttley • 2 hours ago

ROCK the Casbah!
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---- Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

Here are some photos of the event. Make sure you whip out the kleenex tissue for all the crocodile tears you will shed.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/s...
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---- Richard_Wiggler Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

tears of JOY and LAUGHTER no doubt.
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---- Head chimp • 2 hours ago

Muslims version of a chimp out
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---- Nadzieja Batki • 2 hours ago

Good riddance bad rubbish, that is 717 less Islamist Predators in the world.
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---- Molon Labe • 2 hours ago

Open a bag of Pork Rinds..... and the party goes wild !
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---- Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

As the Spartans said over the bodies of thousands of Middle Easterners at Thermopylae:

"A good start..."
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---- Chief • 2 hours ago

YHWH is God
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---- patroy75 • 2 hours ago

Here ya go hajj

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...


---- spiritof76 • 2 hours ago

717 and counting?


---- Stop the muslim invaders • 2 hours ago

it's a good start
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---- Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

Allah not so akbar?
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---- PhillyJohn • 2 hours ago

God Is Great!
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---- darkknight91 • 2 hours ago

This is what I call 'a good start'.
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---- 1skcusamabO • 2 hours ago

I haven't seen anything like this since a Rick Springfield concert in the '80's when all those fat girls killed each other.
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---- spacecommander 1skcusamabO • an hour ago

Or the Who concert back then.
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---- BuddyLuv • 2 hours ago

Allahu Akbar!
Allah works in mysterious ways.
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---- Chief BuddyLuv • 2 hours ago

Insha Allah.


---- Longhunter • 2 hours ago

Dead Muslims?!?!?!?

EVERYBODY DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!
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---- Rick Longhunter • 2 hours ago

Let's throw in some Christians & Jews and we'd have a good start.
Rid this world of religious nuts!


---- Longhunter Rick • 2 hours ago

Muslims and atheists are all the same.

They want to kill all who disagree with them because of their own stupidity and intolerance.

God Bless You, Rick!!!!
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---- Rick Longhunter • 2 hours ago

Muslims have a god.
Atheists do not.
Big difference.


---- Bronx Born Rick • an hour ago

Atheists have a god: their own ego.
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---- spacecommander Bronx Born • an hour ago

Ding ding ding - winner!
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---- Longhunter Rick • 2 hours ago

Islam is nothing more than a cult created by a murderous warlord to control his people.

It was so then and and remains so today.
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---- Rick Longhunter • 2 hours ago

Exactly like Christianity & Judaism.


---- Longhunter Rick • 2 hours ago

Rick, you're obviously an atheist with an axe to grind who knows not of what you speak and I'm not going there with you.

You have a great day, Rick, and God Bless.
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---- Hank_Scorpio Rick • 2 hours ago

I'm just curious, who were the christian and jewish warlords that created their respective religions to control their people?
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---- Chief • 2 hours ago

These people have no spiritual component at all. Having repudiated the true God, they have become animals and as animals they live in herds. The herd mentality takes over and they scream and run when spooked.
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---- MimiMischa • 2 hours ago

There should be a "flush" lever, for when the turds are circling around the rock throwing rocks..
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---- EagleAmerica • 2 hours ago

Guys i was trying to find this on either CNN or BBC, just to see if
they are covering, but the Pope is on every single news channel.


---- Head chimp EagleAmerica • 2 hours ago

Something is wrong with this world, when everyone is glued to one of the biggest pedophiles alive today


---- Conservative4Life EagleAmerica • 2 hours ago

CNN is covering it. Saw it a moment ago.


---- auh2064 • 2 hours ago

That's what happens when you wear roller skates to Hajj.
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---- Dick Peabody • 2 hours ago

I guess their demon-god willed it.
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---- Redtexsin • 2 hours ago

God's promise to Ishmael: your people will number like the sands of the sea but you will be like a wild a$$ in the land - violence will not leave your hand.
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---- spiritof76 Redtexsin • 2 hours ago

Is that for real?
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---- Conservative4Life Redtexsin • 2 hours ago

If it is violence they seek, it will be violence they receive. For we are the masters of violence.


---- 1skcusamabO • 2 hours ago

There's so much good material here! Giddy as a schoolboy it's clogging up my thoughts. just enjoying the moment reading the great comments!
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---- Head chimp • 2 hours ago

I pity the poor saps that have to haul the carcasses away
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---- Conservative4Life Head chimp • 2 hours ago

I say let the crows have a feast.
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---- neocon Conservative4Life • an hour ago

There aint no crows in that crap hole.


---- Conservative4Life neocon • 29 minutes ago

Imagine that...not even crows want to live there.


---- Hank_Scorpio Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

"Buzzards gotta eat too"
- Josey Wales
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---- RINOpoacher • 2 hours ago

Psycho people.

Killed while "stoning" the Devil? More like killed worshipping the Devil.
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#---- robotlivesmatter • 2 hours ago

I hope it hurt.
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---- Nunzio Business • 2 hours ago

Karma is hitting the goatrapers especially hard lately.
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---- Conservative4Life Nunzio Business • 2 hours ago

Most karma is coming their way. Patience. People are waking up.
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---- splink • 2 hours ago

Will they still get their 76 virgins?
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---- infantryman splink • 2 hours ago

76 demons.
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---- Hillaryfarsalot • 2 hours ago

717 down. Millions to go.

But, it's a big move in the right direction and the morons did it to themselves!

Allahu fubar!
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---- PhilSilversGhost Hillaryfarsalot • 2 hours ago

Kinda like the old joke: "Say what you want about Hitler, but at least he killed Hitler."
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---- Conservative4Life Hillaryfarsalot • 2 hours ago

About 150 million or so muslims are jihadi/sharia fanatics. Send the fanatics to the 72 virgins and the rest will come to grips that their backward and barbaric culture stands no chance against the might of the West.


---- 1skcusamabO Hillaryfarsalot • 2 hours ago

LOL
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---- Glenn • 2 hours ago

Lemmings.
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---- 1skcusamabO • 2 hours ago

Well it's a start anyway.


---- Muttley • 2 hours ago

*golf clap* encore! encore!
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---- VetMike • 2 hours ago

Hey, quit picking on the Muslims. Why, just last Easter tens of thousands of Christians were crushed to death walking the Way of the Cross.


---- infantryman VetMike • 2 hours ago

Never heard of that one. Unless you mean figuratively.


---- Rick VetMike • 2 hours ago

The fewer religious nuts of ANY flavor on this rock, the better!


---- Rgiberson VetMike • 2 hours ago

Thousands of Jews die every day praying at the Wailing Wall
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---- GiantSlayer • 2 hours ago

Just wow.....1 religious service claims more lives than obama's version of the war on terror. Maybe we should just stick a giant black box out in the middle of isis territory.
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---- 1skcusamabO GiantSlayer • 2 hours ago

LOL!
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---- Mr A • 2 hours ago

717!? I'm shocked and outraged.

They really must try harder.
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---- MimiMischa • 2 hours ago

Serve them Khaybar lamb for dinner tonight.


---- Head chimp • 2 hours ago

God 1.....Allah 0. Or should I say God 717?
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---- Screwtape Head chimp • 2 hours ago

Same dude.
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---- malb Screwtape • 2 hours ago

Don't listen to ol' Screwtape.
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---- Screwtape malb • an hour ago

Truth hurts, huh?


---- Rick Screwtape • 2 hours ago

Same IMAGNARY dude.
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---- Screwtape Rick • 2 hours ago

No argument from me there.


---- elwap0 Screwtape • 2 hours ago

Oviosly you don't know in Hebrew language there is no word for God only
Gods .....so not the same..


---- Richard_Wiggler Screwtape • 2 hours ago

morally polar opposites...
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---- Screwtape Richard_Wiggler • 2 hours ago

Read the OT. God/Allah is a jerk.


---- MimiMischa Screwtape • 2 hours ago

not the same dude, dude.
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---- kenai • 2 hours ago

Well, damn the luck.
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---- Head chimp • 2 hours ago

The number of dead appears to be rising.
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---- Richard_Wiggler Head chimp • 2 hours ago

nyuk
nyuk
nyuk.
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---- EagleAmerica Head chimp • 2 hours ago

Stampedes cause multiple deaths because of the stomping
or crushing/stomping on bones! Just like those soccer matches
in South America that have had a few stampedes. Death count always high.
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---- Cody • 2 hours ago

My only regret is that it wasn't 7,000, 70,000 or even 7 million.
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---- Rick Cody • 2 hours ago

...and that ALL religions weren't involved.


---- Cody Rick • 2 hours ago

Yes because other faiths, besides Islam are creating so much violence and terrorism. Moron.
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---- infantryman Rick • 2 hours ago

Along with the Atheist faith.
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---- Rick infantryman • 2 hours ago

That isn't a religion.
It's a lack of religion.


---- 1skcusamabO Rick • 2 hours ago

But you're such a religious fanatic about it.
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---- Rick 1skcusamabO • 2 hours ago

Anti-religous


---- 1skcusamabO Rick • 2 hours ago

You post the same thing every time, your ax has been ground to the handle. If you're such a good Atheists why beat a dead horse? Your comments don't sway anyone, but make you look cray cray


---- infantryman Rick • 2 hours ago

It is a faith. It is a belief system.
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---- Rick infantryman • 2 hours ago

No.
It's a lack of faith.


---- Cody Rick • 2 hours ago

So you are all a bunch of Pessimists? Why not just off yourself? giggle.
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---- Rick Cody • 2 hours ago

Pessimist? Because I don't believe in this crapola?

Christianity:
The belief that some cosmic Jewish Zombie can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh & telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree.

Makes perfect sense.


---- Cody Rick • an hour ago

Then how do you atheists explain creation? Don't tell me, you formed from a ooze that made its way out of the water and started growing appendages?


---- infantryman • 2 hours ago

The resounding sound was Moooooo!!!!!!
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---- Cody infantryman • 2 hours ago

Something tells me, quite a few goats are feeling vindicated.
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---- infantryman • 2 hours ago

While visiting the giant Borg cube. "You will be assimilated"
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---- Williams 64 infantryman • 2 hours ago

It seems like a picture from the movie, "2001 A Space Odyssey" with them circling the monolith ...
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---- 914 Williams 64 • 2 hours ago

Hal agrees with this message.
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---- BerzerkJ • 2 hours ago

How come you never hear of a stampede at a Christian festival?
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---- 4thandinches • 2 hours ago

I wish the Muslims in the US would celebrate their own Hajj, by walking over the cliff of the Grand Canyon.
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---- spacecommander 4thandinches • an hour ago

I've hiked in the canyon Valley and have had burro rides down there. Don't need it raining mooslems. Howsabout they swim to mecca? :-)


---- nflsports • 2 hours ago

Holy city of Mecca? You mean Satans toilet?
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---- 2thegates nflsports • 2 hours ago

Your avatar is hilarious!!!!
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---- grainman • 2 hours ago

A good opportunity to deliver a10 megaton warhead through the roof of the Black Box
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---- Conservative4Life grainman • 2 hours ago

The absolutism of this supremacist totalitarian cult posing as a religion guarantees that at some point in the future both Mecca and Medina will experience the flash of a mushroom cloud.
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---- grainman Conservative4Life • an hour ago

Sooner rather than later. Your right


---- andreabeth7 • 2 hours ago

If you have observed the behavior of the tens of thousands of muslim 'refugees' flooding into Europe, it is not difficult to see how this could happen.
Muslims appear to be incapable of standing in line. We learn this in kindergarten but apparently this valuable skill is not taught in their home countries. If there are hundreds of them waiting to get through a checkpoint, it is like the movie scene where the residents of Tokyo fled Godzilla. Except the residents of Tokyo were more orderly.
When boarding a train, they all head for the door at once, creating a jam. Those unable to get through the train door, start climbing in the windows. ( cue the music: "He's climbing in your windows, he's snatching your people up). I cannot imagine what boarding an airplane must be like.
The crowds of muslim 'refugees' do not obey orders. Orders from the police, orders from border officials, orders from anyone. They simply do as they please. The only thing that might get their attention is automatic weapons fire.
In summary, I can see how a stampede like this could occur. Similar incidents have occurred in the past and will continue to occur as long as you have a huge crowd of undisciplined people in a confined area. Don't forget that this is a religious act. If there was ever a time to show consideration to your fellow man, it would be while performing a ritual that is one of the tenets of your faith. Or so one would think.
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---- spacecommander andreabeth7 • an hour ago

Ever see a Mexican queue?


---- ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

Gotta love those conservatives calling for a genocide of an entire religion of over a billion people because of a few thousand extremists.

Doesn't sound much better than the extremist talk, does it?


---- infantryman ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

A few thousand? Do you live under a rock?
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---- Williams 64 ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

Everyone knows that the greatest enemy to their family, country and future is ... The American Liberal.
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---- Conservative4Life ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

The Japanese learned the hard way (millions dead + 2 atomic detonations) that you can't keep poking the giant without terrible retribution coming your way.

Muslims should learn from history. Yield and cease attacking the West, else we will show them what real terror looks like...
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---- ProgressForAmerica Conservative4Life • 2 hours ago

What Americans did to Japanese civilians (including two unjustifiable atomic bombings with the sole purpose of killing civilians) was nothing short of horrific.

War crimes should be shunned no matter who does them.
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---- MimiMischa ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

RIP James Foley and Steven Sotloff
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---- Conservative4Life MimiMischa • 2 hours ago

The Muslim, being a coward, can only kill the defenseless (civilians, prisoners etc). They cannot stand up to the might of our armies.
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---- MimiMischa ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

It is not very progressive to abuse animals and hate dogs.
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---- Hank_Scorpio ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

Sounds like the Black Lives Matter movement, doesn't it?
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---- ProgressForAmerica Hank_Scorpio • 2 hours ago

No, it actually doesn't.

Black Lives Matter is a civil rights movement. Yes, there are fringe members who say really stupid and terrible things but that is definitely not representative of a nationwide movement that simply calls for police accountability in the seemingly routine practice of taking young black lives. I thought you conservatives were supposed to like government being held accountable?


---- MimiMischa ProgressForAmerica • 2 hours ago

bull krap.
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---- Hank_Scorpio MimiMischa • 2 hours ago

With a capital B and a capital K
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---- Richard_Wiggler • 2 hours ago

tickles your innards, don't it..
: )
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---- Muttley • 2 hours ago

Maybe if they wore fitted bedsheets instead...
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---- Tesseract Muttley • 2 hours ago

Only gay Muslims do that.
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A few samples would have sufficed instead of the whole thing.

I've heard the same joke applied to lawyers.

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psCargile wrote:A few samples would have sufficed instead of the whole thing.

I've heard the same joke applied to lawyers.
I don't think they were joking.


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Re: 23-Sep-15 World View -- Europe's refugee crisis revives Ottoman Empire fault lines

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The refugee situation in Europe is I think a little different than what happened in WWII where you had mass migration of Christians in a Christian vs Christian war (well Hitler wasn't a Christian from a fundamental point of view but anyway) Now you have a lot of Muslims moving to stay in what was predominately Christian areas. It is just going to create new generational fault lines. I have no issue with a nice quiet Muslim family living next to me. But if they threaten Blue Drachma for not wearing the burka I will be very cross. Since Islam has as it's stated goal to conquer the entire world I equate it more with communism. At least with the Ottoman empire it was a direct confrontation and victory at Vienna but this time I am not so positive about the long term outcome. But Christians don't act very much like they used to so maybe this is getting what we deserve. The church has gone through many centuries of persecution so I think it will survive but a lot of people will be drug down into darkness and that is sad.

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