11-Sep-15 World View -- Russia, Iran sending troops to Syria as chemical weapons use grows

[John]

11-Sep-15 World View -- Russia, Iran sending troops to Syria as chemical weapons use grows

Assad regime and ISIS are apparently BOTH now using chemical weapons in Syria

** 11-Sep-15 World View -- Russia, Iran sending troops to Syria as chemical weapons use grows
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e150911



Contents:
Russia and Iran send more troops to Syria to back faltering al-Assad
Putin's plan for Syria: al-Assad regime in anti-ISIS coalition with West
Assad regime and ISIS are apparently BOTH now using chemical weapons in Syria


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Syria, Russia, Latakia, Tartus,
Sergei Lavrov, Vladimir Putin, Sevastopol, Crimea, Black Sea,
Iran, Islamic Revolution Guards Corps, IRGC,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesh,
Italy, Silvio Berlusconi, France, Nicolas Sarkozy,
Bashar al-Assad, chlorine, Sarin, mustard gas,
UN Security Council

[Guest]

Just curious: how is Putin supporting Assad different than Reagan supporting Saddam in the 1980's? Both of them were extremely brutal and committed horrific atrocities, with the protection of a superpower allowing them to get away with anything they wanted. Saddam could match Assad, perhaps even exceed him in brutality.

[Anonymous1]

Let give you a different theory of why Putin is in Syria. Putin wants Syria as is to protect his oil cash cow. Huge amount of the countries revenue is oil to europe. Now if Assad leaves, then the land is open to oil pipelines from Qatar and other arab places to pipe oil to europe. That is a direct crunch against the red oil of putin. BAM! goes that input of money to fuel their reborn Union of the Soviets, comrade.

[Guest]

Let give you a different theory of why Putin is in Syria. Putin wants Syria as is to protect his oil cash cow. Huge amount of the countries revenue is oil to europe. Now if Assad leaves, then the land is open to oil pipelines from Qatar and other arab places to pipe oil to europe. That is a direct crunch against the red oil of putin. BAM! goes that input of money to fuel their reborn Union of the Soviets, comrade.

Except that Putin backed the Iran deal and soon Iran will flood the market with its oil and drive down oil prices even more. It would have been more effective to block the Iran deal.

[Guest]

Just curious: how is Putin supporting Assad different than Reagan supporting Saddam in the 1980's? Both of them were extremely brutal and committed horrific atrocities, with the protection of a superpower allowing them to get away with anything they wanted. Saddam could match Assad, perhaps even exceed him in brutality.

No difference. Not that I'm defending either of them. The point being that (like John has said) people will hold their nose and ally with people if they feel it is necessary to survive (like the Allies aligning with Stalin and the Soviet Union).

I have a question: How will the millions of Sunni Muslims react during the coming world war? Will the Sunnis in Europe be a fifth column? Or will they be content to live off of welfare while others fight?

[John]

> Just curious: how is Putin supporting Assad different than Reagan
> supporting Saddam in the 1980's? Both of them were extremely
> brutal and committed horrific atrocities, with the protection of a
> superpower allowing them to get away with anything they
> wanted. Saddam could match Assad, perhaps even exceed him in
> brutality.

It's an interesting question, but I think that there are differences.

We might as well start with our alliance with Josef Stalin's Russia
in WW II. Stalin had killed millions of people brutally, including
millions of people by starvation in Ukraine.

But we allied with Stalin because he was the lesser of two evils.

In the 1980s, Iran had kidnapped our diplomats, and was practically
declaring war against us and Israel. Prior to Saddam's use of
chemical weapons in 1988, Saddam was considered the lesser of two
evils.

Russia is using the same argument -- that al-Assad is the lesser of
two evils, the other evil being ISIS. The problem with the Russian
argument is that ISIS didn't exist when Russia began supporting
Assad. The other "evil" was peaceful protesters, so al-Assad was
the greater of the two evils.

Genocide by al-Assad, supported by Putin and Iran, has not only
created ISIS, but has also resulted in millions of Syrian refugees
headed into Europe. It's really amazing how disastrous these people
have been to the world, with complete impunity. If this kind of
disaster had been predicted five years ago, no one would have believed
it. It makes it easier to understand how Hitler got away with it for
so long.