9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos
Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
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Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos
Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
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Generational Dynamics, Haiti, Michel Martelly, Sweet Micky,
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9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
Re: 9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
In the article on Haiti, you mentioned that there was a new crisis civil war in the late 1840s. I did some more research, and this appears to have been exactly 40 years after the previous crisis war ended (1804). The interesting thing about this crisis war is that the brevity of time between crisis wars, and the fact that heroes from the previous crisis war appear to have actually led the different factions as elder statesmen in the next crisis civil war. Shouldn't this be impossible, especially since this crisis war came from within, and was not the result of an outside invasion?
This is an interesting anomaly, and not without precedent. England's mid 19th century crisis war, which began in at least 1859, possibly 1857 with the Indian Rebellion, began only 42 years after the Battle of Waterloo. And while I need to do further study on this, it would appear this also happened in Ancient Rome, as Trajan's campaigns of conquest began only 30 years after a civil war that ravaged the empire from 68-70.
This is an interesting anomaly, and not without precedent. England's mid 19th century crisis war, which began in at least 1859, possibly 1857 with the Indian Rebellion, began only 42 years after the Battle of Waterloo. And while I need to do further study on this, it would appear this also happened in Ancient Rome, as Trajan's campaigns of conquest began only 30 years after a civil war that ravaged the empire from 68-70.
Re: 9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
Having a crisis civil war 40 years after the previous crisis war is
really completely impossible. There are too many survivors (heroes,
artists, prophets) from the previous war to allow that to happen.
Any war at that time will be an Awakening/Unraveling war.
So if you have a situation like that, then there has to be another
explanation.
I haven't looked at Haiti's timeline for ten years, and obviously
got some things wrong. The Haitian Revolution (1791-1804) was a
crisis war, and was tied into the French Revolution.
However, looking at the events of the late 1840s, there was a revolt
and a coup, but that was clearly an Awakening climax, not a crisis
civil war.
Haiti's next crisis war appears to have been the American Civil
war, in which Haiti was deeply involved.
The period from 1915 on is too complicated to figure out without
a lot more research. It's complicated by the American troops and
by relations with the Dominican Republic. It's even possible that
WW II was Haiti's next crisis war, but I'm not sure of that, and
it requires a lot more research.
England's participation in the French Revolution is another very
complicated issue that I haven't looked at in years. It's more likely
that England's participation climaxed long before the battle of
Waterloo, making Waterloo a Recovery Era war.
really completely impossible. There are too many survivors (heroes,
artists, prophets) from the previous war to allow that to happen.
Any war at that time will be an Awakening/Unraveling war.
So if you have a situation like that, then there has to be another
explanation.
I haven't looked at Haiti's timeline for ten years, and obviously
got some things wrong. The Haitian Revolution (1791-1804) was a
crisis war, and was tied into the French Revolution.
However, looking at the events of the late 1840s, there was a revolt
and a coup, but that was clearly an Awakening climax, not a crisis
civil war.
Haiti's next crisis war appears to have been the American Civil
war, in which Haiti was deeply involved.
The period from 1915 on is too complicated to figure out without
a lot more research. It's complicated by the American troops and
by relations with the Dominican Republic. It's even possible that
WW II was Haiti's next crisis war, but I'm not sure of that, and
it requires a lot more research.
England's participation in the French Revolution is another very
complicated issue that I haven't looked at in years. It's more likely
that England's participation climaxed long before the battle of
Waterloo, making Waterloo a Recovery Era war.
Re: 9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
I'm wondering how the American civil war affected and how involved Haiti was in it. I never heard of that before.John wrote:Having a crisis civil war 40 years after the previous crisis war is
really completely impossible. There are too many survivors (heroes,
artists, prophets) from the previous war to allow that to happen.
Any war at that time will be an Awakening/Unraveling war.
So if you have a situation like that, then there has to be another
explanation.
I haven't looked at Haiti's timeline for ten years, and obviously
got some things wrong. The Haitian Revolution (1791-1804) was a
crisis war, and was tied into the French Revolution.
However, looking at the events of the late 1840s, there was a revolt
and a coup, but that was clearly an Awakening climax, not a crisis
civil war.
Haiti's next crisis war appears to have been the American Civil
war, in which Haiti was deeply involved.
The period from 1915 on is too complicated to figure out without
a lot more research. It's complicated by the American troops and
by relations with the Dominican Republic. It's even possible that
WW II was Haiti's next crisis war, but I'm not sure of that, and
it requires a lot more research.
England's participation in the French Revolution is another very
complicated issue that I haven't looked at in years. It's more likely
that England's participation climaxed long before the battle of
Waterloo, making Waterloo a Recovery Era war.
Re: 9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20 ... aiti/?_r=0Guest wrote: > I'm wondering how the American civil war affected and how involved
> Haiti was in it. I never heard of that before.
http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14656.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbH1LMSX3Rk
Re: 9-Aug-15 News -- Haiti's parliamentary elections promise little besides chaos / Mulattos versus Noirs in Haiti
Very interesting! But, from what I can tell (I admit I haven't watched the whole video yet), this tells a lot of how American blacks were inspired by the Haitian Revolution in the Civil War, but it doesn't seem to say how Haiti itself was heavily involved. It still seems like the anarchy of the late 1840s and 1850s, which took place at the same time as the Dominican wars of independence from Haiti, was a crisis war for Haiti, not the American Civil War.
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