29-Dec-14 World View -- Jihadist attacks on Christians

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29-Dec-14 World View -- Do news organizations ignore jihadist attacks on Christians?

ISIS kills almost 2000 in Syria in six months

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Do news organizations ignore jihadist attacks on Christians?
ISIS kills almost 2000 in Syria in six months


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Re: 29-Dec-14 World View -- Jihadist attacks on Christians

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People are like rats in a cage --

from -- Escaping the Laboratory:
The Rodent Experiments
of John B. Calhoun
& Their Cultural Influence http://www.lse.ac.uk/economicHistory/pd ... madams.pdf

----And the change was permanent ----

Employed in the Laboratory of Psychology of the National
Institute of Mental Health from 1954, Calhoun repeated the experiment
in specially constructed “rodent universes” – room-sized pens which
could be viewed from the attic above via windows cut through the
ceiling. Using a variety of strains of rats and mice, he once more
provided his populations with food, bedding, and shelter. With no
predators and with exposure to disease kept at a minimum, Calhoun
described his experimental universes as “rat utopia,” “mouse paradise.”
With all their visible needs met, the animals bred rapidly. The only
restriction Calhoun imposed on his population was of space – and as
the population grew, this became increasingly problematic. As the pens
heaved with animals, one of his assistants described rodent “utopia” as
having become “hell” (Marsden 1972).
Dominant males became aggressive, some moving in groups,
attacking females and the young. Mating behaviors were disrupted.
Some became exclusively homosexual. Others became pansexual and
hypersexual, attempting to mount any rat they encountered. Mothers
neglected their infants, first failing to construct proper nests, and then
carelessly abandoning and even attacking their pups. In certain sections
of the pens, infant mortality rose as high as 96%, the dead cannibalized
by adults. Subordinate animals withdrew psychologically, surviving in a
physical sense but at an immense psychological cost. They were the
majority in the late phases of growth, existing as a vacant, huddled
mass in the centre of the pens. Unable to breed, the population
plummeted and did not recover. The crowded rodents had lost the
ability to co-exist harmoniously, even after the population numbers once
again fell to low levels. At a certain density, they had ceased to act like
rats and mice, and the change was permanent.
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and people are different?
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John, sometimes I think you look at humanity like rats in a cage -- not that I would disagree with that objective position -- or as Spock of "Star Trek" would say "fascinating".

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gerald wrote:
> People are like rats in a cage --

> from -- Escaping the Laboratory:
> The Rodent Experiments
> of John B. Calhoun
> & Their Cultural Influence
> http://www.lse.ac.uk/economicHistory/pd ... madams.pdf

> ----And the change was permanent ----

> Employed in the Laboratory of Psychology of the National Institute
> of Mental Health from 1954, Calhoun repeated the experiment in
> specially constructed “rodent universes” – room-sized pens which
> could be viewed from the attic above via windows cut through the
> ceiling. Using a variety of strains of rats and mice, he once more
> provided his populations with food, bedding, and shelter. With no
> predators and with exposure to disease kept at a minimum, Calhoun
> described his experimental universes as “rat utopia,” “mouse
> paradise.”

> With all their visible needs met, the animals bred rapidly. The
> only restriction Calhoun imposed on his population was of space –
> and as the population grew, this became increasingly
> problematic. As the pens heaved with animals, one of his
> assistants described rodent “utopia” as having become “hell”
> (Marsden 1972).

> Dominant males became aggressive, some moving in groups, attacking
> females and the young. Mating behaviors were disrupted. Some
> became exclusively homosexual. Others became pansexual and
> hypersexual, attempting to mount any rat they encountered. Mothers
> neglected their infants, first failing to construct proper nests,
> and then carelessly abandoning and even attacking their pups. In
> certain sections of the pens, infant mortality rose as high as
> 96%, the dead cannibalized by adults. Subordinate animals withdrew
> psychologically, surviving in a physical sense but at an immense
> psychological cost. They were the majority in the late phases of
> growth, existing as a vacant, huddled mass in the centre of the
> pens. Unable to breed, the population plummeted and did not
> recover. The crowded rodents had lost the ability to co-exist
> harmoniously, even after the population numbers once again fell to
> low levels. At a certain density, they had ceased to act like rats
> and mice, and the change was permanent.

> -----------------------------
> and people are different?
> -----------------------------

> John, sometimes I think you look at humanity like rats in a cage
> -- not that I would disagree with that objective position -- or as
> Spock of "Star Trek" would say "fascinating".
We are like rats in a cage, compulsively following the directives
of our hormones and our DNA.

The paper that you referenced on the rodent experiments may well
explain why Islam is at war with itself. Saudi Arabia, which has
spawned a lot of conflict, had its last generational crisis war in the
1920s, between the Al Sauds tribes and the Wahhabi tribes. Saudi
Arabia has managed to postpone its next crisis war by using its oil
wealth, but as your rat paper shows, just having a lot of money isn't
good enough. By the time you get deep enough into a new generational
Crisis era, then society breaks down.

I've written many times about the distinct nature of a society in a
Fifth Turning -- society that passed through its entire Fourth Turning
without a new crisis war. What I've been documenting for ten years,
is that such societies are the most likely to spawn terrorists.

Saudi Arabia is such a society, and it spawned Osama bin Laden and
other terrorists. Your rat paper supports the Fifth Turning theory
because that would be the time when the rats become so disoriented
that society breaks down and rats on the fringe start killing people.

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Re: 29-Dec-14 World View -- Jihadist attacks on Christians

Post by gerald »

Well John, it looks like it is going to get "interesting" with the coming mini ice age, as posted elsewhere ref --https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woP5wB-rkqE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhxRU_mqUSY and the magnetic pole shift http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... -expected/

and the general societal decay --- hmmm get out the popcorn, it could be an interesting show.

cheers

Guest

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Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.

Perhaps Aristotle said this. Perhaps it was someone else. Whoever said was right.

MarvyGuy

Re: 29-Dec-14 World View -- Jihadist attacks on Christians

Post by MarvyGuy »

If you like your rat maze you can keep your rat maze.

Makes me think of life in NYC or LA (or any large city). Looking at the Mag Pole shift article I am not sure how it presents a problem for the MRV's. I think Newton's laws will take care of that and you will be able to make popcorn anywhere in your house afterwards. Though it might lead to a southerly migration. What was that hyped disaster movie where NYC was frozen over End of Days? 2012? - anyway maybe it ends up like that but for entirely different reasons and those left head towards the equator.

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