9-Sep-14 World View -- Ukraine,ISIS risk Russia's Caucasus

[John]

9-Sep-14 World View -- Ukraine conflict and rise of ISIS put Russia's Caucasus at risk

France's scapegoat 'Rogue trader' Jerome Kerviel is freed from prison

** 9-Sep-14 World View -- Ukraine conflict and rise of ISIS put Russia's Caucasus at risk
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e140909


Contents:
France's scapegoat 'Rogue trader' Jerome Kerviel is freed from prison
Ukraine conflict and rise of ISIS put Russia's Caucasus at risk
WHO: Ebola virus is spreading 'exponentially' in Liberia


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, France, Societe Generale, Jerome Kerviel,
Islamic State / of Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, IS, ISIS, ISIL,
Ukraine, Russia, Chechnya, North Caucasus,
Vladimir Putin, Ramzan Kadyrov,
World Health Organization, WHO, Liberia, Ebola

[Guest]

I thought they had developed an Ebola cure? Doesn't the vaccine have a 100% effectiveness? Or are the media reports false? I don't see why you keep saying this won't spread much in America or Europe. If a sneeze can spread the common cold, why not Ebola? Your earlier argument seems to have collapsed. Have you changed your mind?

[NoOneImportant]

John wrote:

But Attorney General Eric Holder has not prosecuted a single individual. Holder is always whining that no one respects him, and he whines because he was treated unfairly when he was held in Contempt of Congress for failing to produce documents. And yet, this jerk has not prosecuted a single individual for the financial crisis since he took office in 2008. Why? Either it's because he's totally incompetent, or it's because these bankers have contributed millions of dollars to Obama administration campaigns or organizations endorsed by the Obama administration, and not prosecuting is payoff.

Thank you for maintaining coverage of the sociopaths who gave so much misery to so many in the financial crisis of 2008. Having made no secret of my personal distain for Eric Holder, it stems, at least in part, from his culpability, and in my opinion, his personal corruption. For "under Holder's watch" the thieves who masterminded, and perpetrated the largest fraud in human history were able to get away with the largest single theft in all of human history, and they were able to steal trillions all for the price of a few hundred million in bribes/campaign contributions. The governmental rot that is Obama is only made possible by a complicit MSM, and a corrupt AG who Obama knows will permit him freedom of action without fear or concern for investigation and/or criminal prosecution.

It may be argued forever whether Bush was stupid, as the MSM spent 8 years contending; but what is not in doubt is that every corporate executive of Enron Corp did hard time -- perhaps not enough -- but each was indicted, tried, convicted, sentenced to prison, and served at least part of their sentence.

Holder... respect? Why not respect Gengis Khan? We continue to live in the constant shadow of a ticking financial time bomb. Those who created the 2008 financial crisis didn't do it inadvertently, by oversight, or by accident; nor have they dried up, evaporated and blown away with the wind, and they have certainly have not been appropriately prosecuted and sent to prison. Alas no, they all in fact continue to "work" to this very day in that selfsame finance industry that give you the 2008 crisis -- they are the gift that keeps on giving. Each of those criminals biding their time, each awaiting their future opportunity to "strike-it-rich" again. For they each know that either nobody's watching, or enough money will buy them impunity -- thank you Eric Holder. In my opinion, Holder belongs in prison not the Attorney General's Office - as John noted he is either incompetent, criminally negligent, or corrupt and criminally culpable. Kick-backs, and quid pro quo arrangements have become so common place, and pervasive in this regime that they are considered to be "normal" -- a standard practice; just the cost of a criminal enterprise, if you will.

Welcome to Chicago politics nationalized.

[John]

I thought they had developed an Ebola cure? Doesn't the vaccine have a 100% effectiveness? Or are the media reports false? I don't see why you keep saying this won't spread much in America or Europe. If a sneeze can spread the common cold, why not Ebola? Your earlier argument seems to have collapsed. Have you changed your mind?

I don't know what you're talking about. Ebola is spread by touching,
not by sneezing.

[gerald]

I thought they had developed an Ebola cure? Doesn't the vaccine have a 100% effectiveness? Or are the media reports false? I don't see why you keep saying this won't spread much in America or Europe. If a sneeze can spread the common cold, why not Ebola? Your earlier argument seems to have collapsed. Have you changed your mind?

I don't know what you're talking about. Ebola is spread by touching,
not by sneezing.

John not by sneezing? That may still be open to question
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08 ... ncet-osha/

Even OSHA reported on the possible transmission of Ebola through aerosol droplets.

"In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated (1, 6, 13). The importance of this route of transmission is not clear. Poor hygienic conditions can aid the spread of the virus (6)."

[NoOneImportant]

Regarding something as volatile as Ebola it is difficult to get definitive answers. While I am certainly not "the source" for information regarding Ebola we can reference definitive research and get reasonably close to definite answers. The quotes noted below come from the Public Health Agency of Canada dated 8/22/2014 - apparently one of the best research sources, as the American CDC documents, regarding Ebola, reference this Canadian document - http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/ ... la-eng.php.


The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) 8/22/2014 wrote:

MODE OF TRANSMISSION:

In an outbreak, it is hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected as a result of contact with an infected animal Footnote 22. Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 22 Footnote 42. Nosocomial (hospital acquired) infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids for example due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals Footnote 2 Footnote 10 Footnote 43.

In laboratory settings, non-human primates exposed to aerosolized ebolavirus from pigs have become infected, however, airborne transmission has not been demonstrated between non-human primates Footnote 1 Footnote 10 Footnote 15 Footnote 44 Footnote 45. Viral shedding has been observed in nasopharyngeal (nasal) secretions and rectal swabs of pigs following experimental inoculation Footnote 29 Footnote 30.

INCUBATION PERIOD: Two to 21 days Footnote 1 Footnote 15 Footnote 17.

COMMUNICABILITY: Communicable as long as blood, body fluids or organs, contain the virus. Ebolavirus has been isolated from semen 61 to 82 days after the onset of illness, and transmission through semen has occurred 7 weeks after clinical recovery Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 59 Footnote 60.

While the jury may still be out regarding whether Ebola may be spread from human to human via airborne aerosol or whether it may not. As Gerald noted in his post, what is not in doubt is that in a lab environment, using animal test subjects, Ebola is transmitted via an Ebola contaminated aerosol from infected animals of one species to subject primate test animals. http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/ ... la-eng.php

What is unquestionable is that the Ebola virus does not die immediately with the patient. As John noted in his post, it is most commonly transmitted by close physical contact with the bodily fluids of those who are exhibiting active Ebola symptoms, or by touching, without protection, the bodies of those who have died of the Ebola virus. Also of note is that a recovered patient male patient may exhibit viable Ebola virus in his semen for up to 7 weeks after his "recovery." Said male patients remain capable of infecting anyone with who he has intercourse during that 7 week period of time.

What is also apparent is that, given a sufficient external environment, Ebola can remain viable for an extended period of time at ambient (room) temperatures, and for longer periods the lower the ambient temperature - up to 50 days at 4 degrees C, or in excess of 15 hours at room temperature. In that regard all items -- seats, sheets, arm rests, beds, clothing, all human liquid excretions, et al -- touched by an active Ebola patient may be considered to be sufficient to transmit an active infection. The following is, again, taken from the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) fact sheet on Ebola dated 8/22/2014 (the current outbreak has been identified as one of the five most virulent strains -- Zire Ebola (ZEBOV)).

The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) -- 8/22/2014 -- wrote:

SUSCEPTIBILITY TO DISINFECTANTS:
Ebolavirus is susceptible to 3% acetic acid, 1% glutaraldehyde, alcohol-based products, and dilutions (1:10-1:100 for ≥10 minutes) of 5.25% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite), and calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) Footnote 48 Footnote 49 Footnote 50 Footnote 62 Footnote 63. The WHO recommendations for cleaning up spills of blood or body fluids suggest flooding the area with a 1:10 dilutions of 5.25% household bleach for 10 minutes for surfaces that can tolerate stronger bleach solutions (e.g., cement, metal) Footnote 62. For surfaces that may corrode or discolour, they recommend careful cleaning to remove visible stains followed by contact with a 1:100 dilution of 5.25% household bleach for more than 10 minutes.

The take away is that anything touched by an active patient, or his bodily fluids may be disinfected with acetic acid 3% (vinegar, be sure to check the lable for acetic acid concentration, white vinegar is usu 5% acetic acid), alcohol, and bleach solutions, but the solution must be given time -- 10 minutes -- to perform its disinfecting action. To that end, a simple wipe of a prospectively infected item with a disinfecting solution is not sufficient to provide disinfection. (Ref. PHAC footnote #61) Research published in 2010 indicated viable ZEBOV virus may be found on glass, and plastic surfaces up to 3 weeks after deposition. The lower the temperature, the longer the "sample" will remain viable. An abstract,with a link to the .pdf of the full paper may be found at PubMed -- http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20553340

The prevailing wisdom is: so long as you do not touch the bodily fluids of an actively sick patient you are safe from infection. While that is the prevailing wisdom, the item above indicates that indirect infection is not just possible, but likely (my interpretation). Like the flu, a virus that the Ebola emulates early on, apparently Ebola may be transmitted by contaminated, un-disinfected material items routinely found in the environment (by door knobs, faucet fixtures, hand rails, and other commonplace items), items that a sweating, or contaminated infected hand may have deposit a culture of the active virus -- thus are all personal items of Ebola infected patients burned in Africa (according to news articles, no reference cited).

The PHAC 8/22/2014 wrote:

SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST:
Filoviruses (Ebola) have been reported capable to survive for weeks in blood and can also survive on contaminated surfaces, particularly at low temperatures (4°C) Footnote 52 Footnote 61. One study could not recover any Ebolavirus from experimentally contaminated surfaces (plastic, metal or glass) at room temperature Footnote 61. In another study, Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61. This information is based on experimental findings only and not based on observations in nature. This information is intended to be used to support local risk assessments in a laboratory setting.

A study on transmission of ebolavirus from fomites (bedding, and clothing) in an isolation ward concludes that the risk of transmission is low when recommended infection control guidelines for viral hemorrhagic fevers are followed Footnote 64. Infection control protocols included decontamination of floors with 0.5% bleach daily and decontamination of visibly contaminated surfaces with 0.05% bleach as necessary.

[John]

Thanks for the extensive information about the spread of Ebola.

I think that there's little doubt that if someone with Ebola sneezes
in your face, then you're going to get Ebola. Or if someone sneezes
onto a doorknob that you then touch, then you may still get Ebola
(though not necessarily).

But the context we're talking about is whether an Ebola pandemic could
run out of control in the U.S., as is happening in Liberia.

All the news stories make it clear that Ebola is spreading in Liberia
through physical touch of bodily fluids. As I understand it, this
makes it far less likely to spread than, say, an ordinary flu virus,
which spreads through a population fairly quickly.

Factors that are specific to Liberia are lack of health care
infrastructure, superstitions, illiteracy and lack of education,
anti-Western hostility, and funeral rites. These are the main factors
that caused the initial spread, and now there's an extremely fast
exponential rate of growth caused by three more factors: Lack of
enough Ebola clinics, deaths of many health workers, and isolation of
Liberia from the rest of the world -- meaning that new Ebola patients
are literally receiving no care whatsoever.

Things may change, but right now I don't see any of these factors in
play in the U.S. or Europe or any developed nation. However, those
factors may still apply in many underdeveloped places in the world,
particularly megacities and slums, and so a global Ebola epidemic in
that sense may still be on the way.

P.S.: In another thread, Tom Mazanec has referenced a relevant article:
http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 92&p=25468
http://aeon.co/magazine/health/the-next ... ainforest/

[NoOneImportant]

An excellent article.

I had posted a link to the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) doc earlier last week, but the "Ebola is gonna get ya, if ya don't watch out" posts continued -- the posting was missed, or wasn't read. So I did the above, figured it still might not read it, but at least the salient points were distilled from the PHAC article.

Thanks for the above link, a good article.

[gerald]

Ebola transmission -- There may be another overlooked vector for Ebola transmission,-- the mosquito.

Malaria site map of Africa http://www.malariasite.com/malaria/africa.htm

Transmission of malaria " Center for Disease Control and Prevention" http://www.cdc.gov/malaria/about/faqs.html

"When a mosquito bites an infected person, a small amount of blood is taken in which contains microscopic malaria parasites. About 1 week later, when the mosquito takes its next blood meal, these parasites mix with the mosquito's saliva and are injected into the person being bitten."

According to the above map, The current Ebola outbreaks overlap many West Africa Malaria areas. Ebola may just be getting started.

hmmm