2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's forces assault pro-Russian separatists as cease-fire ends


In face of China's increased aggression, Japan reinterprets its constitution

** 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's forces assault pro-Russian separatists as cease-fire ends
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Ukraine's forces assault pro-Russian separatists as cease-fire ends
China's neighbors react to new South China Sea claims
In face of China's increased aggression, Japan reinterprets its constitution


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Generational Dynamics, Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko,
Russia, Vladimir Putin, Syria, Bashar al-Assad,
China, South China Sea, Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore,
Japan, Shinzo Abe

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Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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China's fishing actions in the south sea illustrate a major food source problem. When fish stocks are depleted they may not recover ( example Georges bank ), eventually you run out of areas to fish. Then what? Typical human actions, short term actions ignoring long term consequences.

NoOneImportant

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John wrote:
China has updated its famous "nine-dash map," which depicts its sovereignty over the entire South China Sea with a new map that signals China's treatment of its territorial claims as a "core interest," meaning that any compromise in the South China Sea would be equivalent to giving away a part of mainland China. This is consistent with China's repeated statements indicating that it will annex the entire South China Sea and declare war on anyone that tries to stop them.

While China's actions regarding fishing in the South China Sea (SCS) is certainly a beneficial action in regard to China, but are there other reasons? Certainly energy - oil, and gas. Is there more?

China now has three operational, or soon to be operational boomer missile submarines. Tactically speaking, when an enemy boomer sub leaves port it is shadowed by an American Navy fast attack submarine. The purpose of the shadow is to follow the boomer, and should war break out the fast attack is to sink the enemy boomer before it can launch any, or all of its missiles.

Should the Chinese be able to enforce the new 10 dash line as China's territorial limits (http://english.people.com.cn/n/2014/062 ... 45968.html) then technically American fast attack subs may not penetrate this line for any reason without Chinese permission. From either line Guam, Midway, Hawaii, and all of the western seaboard of the US (including US fleet home ports of San Diego, and Bremmerton Washington) are targetable by the 36 JL-2 nuclear missiles (http://www.afisr.af.mil/shared/media/do ... df#page=25) capable of being launched from the three Chinese boomer subs (with two additional subs in production). Additionally the Chinese are creating several air strips on islands in the 9 dash area.

Should China successfully impose the 9 or 10 dash line in the South China Sea (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/files/ ... sea-ma.jpg) as its territorial limits, and acquire the equivalent in the East China sea it will prospectively successfully isolate Taiwan while at the same time holding off by hundreds of kilometers American fast-attack submarines (hunter/killer subs) from the Chinese submarines' home point of origin on Hainan Island - http://www.wantchinatimes.com/news-subc ... 7&cid=1101

Guest

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gerald wrote:China's fishing actions in the south sea illustrate a major food source problem. When fish stocks are depleted they may not recover ( example Georges bank ), eventually you run out of areas to fish. Then what? Typical human actions, short term actions ignoring long term consequences.
I've read in history books how the Chinese always think in the long term, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. The Chinese were clear cutting ancient forest that had been protected by the Manchus after the 1911 revolution for a quick buck. The Chinese have poisoned there own water supply. Even the dirt in China is toxic. China has left itself with only two options: invade other nations and steal their resources or die of thirst and hunger.

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Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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Guest wrote:
gerald wrote:China's fishing actions in the south sea illustrate a major food source problem. When fish stocks are depleted they may not recover ( example Georges bank ), eventually you run out of areas to fish. Then what? Typical human actions, short term actions ignoring long term consequences.
I've read in history books how the Chinese always think in the long term, but I haven't seen any evidence of it. The Chinese were clear cutting ancient forest that had been protected by the Manchus after the 1911 revolution for a quick buck. The Chinese have poisoned there own water supply. Even the dirt in China is toxic. China has left itself with only two options: invade other nations and steal their resources or die of thirst and hunger.
From my climate change posts ---a coming retribution?
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"As for the end of the last ice age, I have a suspicion that that may not be quite right. For example the Columbia Basin scabland,--"this strange landscape had been created by monster Ice Age Floods which had gouged channels through it " http://hugefloods.com/Scablands.html ,one possible cause of such a deluge would be the rapid melting of a polar ice cap due to a polar shift. From the twilight zone if you will "These sources suggest that the geographic pole shift will be between 20 to 45 degrees over a period of between 5 and 10 hours. They also suggest the new North Pole could be somewhere near Northern Mongolia in Russia." note the flash frozen mammonth --- ... geographic http://www.timeline2012.net/index.php/e ... geographic

PS -- twisted thinking, look at a map, such a pole shift would pretty much eliminate Russia and China as a civilizations."

"Also, I should note that the Earths magnetic poles are relocating and moving at an increasingly rapid rate. ( http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climat ... nal-pole-r ) "
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Nothing to see, just move along.

Guest

Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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PS -- twisted thinking, look at a map, such a pole shift would pretty much eliminate Russia and China as a civilizations."



Okay, so what's the bad news?

NoOneImportant

Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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Gerald wrote:
"As for the end of the last ice age, I have a suspicion that that may not be quite right. For example the Columbia Basin scabland,--"this strange landscape had been created by monster Ice Age Floods which had gouged channels through it " http://hugefloods.com/Scablands.html ,one possible cause of such a deluge would be the rapid melting of a polar ice cap due to a polar shift. From the twilight zone if you will "These sources suggest that the geographic pole shift will be between 20 to 45 degrees over a period of between 5 and 10 hours. They also suggest the new North Pole could be somewhere near Northern Mongolia in Russia." note the flash frozen mammonth --- ... geographic http://www.timeline2012.net/index.php/e ... geographic

PS -- twisted thinking, look at a map, such a pole shift would pretty much eliminate Russia and China as a civilizations."

"Also, I should note that the Earths magnetic poles are relocating and moving at an increasingly rapid rate. ( http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climat ... nal-pole-r ) "
Not sure why but the last link didn't work; did a search and think this is the article - http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climat ... nal-pole-r.

All interesting stuff... love this kind of stuff; you know it happened, but all the possibles make no sense. Washington State is not the only area to show evidence of great volumes of water moving where none now exists. Michigan has enormous salt deposits, the Bonneville Salt Flats, the Vally of the Sun (Phoenix) appears to be one enormous flood plane that is 40 - 60 miles wide. What doesn't often get touched upon (not in the MSM's interest) is that there have been 8 periods of glaciation and thawing over the last 800K years, as exhibited by Antarctic ice cores. Even more interesting is the interval is 100k years between each cycle, with most of each cycle being frozen - http://www.ces.fau.edu/nasa/module-3/te ... tion-1.php.

While we tend to think of the transition between the periods of glaciation and warming as being gradual (and that is what the ice cores attest to, and possibly because that is what we're used to seeing annually), but that may, in fact, not be the case, ice cores aside. In that regard the Beresovka Mammoth is particularly interesting, as you noted; found in the early 20th century it's stomach and mouth contained undigested buttercup flowers. The implication is that the climate was for months temperate enough to grow grazing grass (also in the mouth and stomach) and buttercups, to cold enough to freeze solid a very large warm blooded mammal, (death without decay, with the meat purported to be still fresh enough to be eaten when excavated;) so quickly frozen that the animal froze to death prior to digesting its last meal - almost like being quick frozen in a meant locker, or dipped in liquid nitrogen. And not just a single animal, but many, and not just one woolly mammoth but enough to, thousands of years later, to create an ivory trade in northern Siberia. Also horse, and bison, and rhino, all animals who could not survive the current climate in that area - https://answersingenesis.org/answers/bo ... n-siberia/. While the numbers reported here are preposterous, even if reduced by an order of magnitude, their existence is dumbfounding.

Perhaps these web sites have it wrong. The movement of the magnet North Pole south at 40 miles per year toward northern Russia may cause a shift in the rotation of the earth. If you presume that some external magnetic field causes the earth's magnetic field to be in it's current orientation, then the movement of the magnetic north southward may simply alter the entire orientation of the Earth's rotation, as in the earth being a free-spinning rotor in a gigantic celestial induction motor.

Really interesting stuff.

Guest

Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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With California almost bone dry, I wonder what will happen to the population living there now? Where will they go?

MarvyGuy

Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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Let's invade Canada!

NoOneImportant

Re: 2-Jul-14 World View -- Ukraine's cease-fire ends

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MarvyGuy wrote:
Let's invade Canada!
Great idea, and we will know who is armed because they have mandatory gun registration.

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