25-Jun-14 World View -- European youth join ISIS

[John]

25-Jun-14 World View -- The Iraqi catastrophe worsens as European youth join ISIS


Boko Haram in Nigeria abducts 60 more girls and 30 boys

** 25-Jun-14 World View -- The Iraqi catastrophe worsens as European youth join ISIS
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e140625



Contents:
The Iraqi catastrophe worsens as European youth join ISIS
ISIS conducts sophisticated media campaign to attract European youth
Russia may revoke its March 1 resolution authorizing Ukraine invasion
Boko Haram in Nigeria abducts 60 more girls and 30 boys


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, Iraq, Europe, Syria, Jabhat al-Nusra,
Islamic Emirate in Iraq and Syria/Sham/the Levant, ISIS, ISIL,
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, Al-Qaeda in Iraq,
Bashar al-Assad, Russia, Vladimir Putin, Al-Hayat Media,
Abu Talha Al Almani, Deso Dogg, Abu Abdullah Al Brittani,
Ukraine, Petr Poroshenko, Nigeria, Boko Haram

[NoOneImportant]

Wow, this is like cancer in the body. "...oh, I have cancer in the lungs?... oh, well... the rest of the organs will be OK, right?"

[gerald]

Wow, this is like cancer in the body. "...oh, I have cancer in the lungs?... oh, well... the rest of the organs will be OK, right?"

hmmmmmm

Who are these "European" youth? Are they "old' European or "recent " European. Looking at CNN and some issues of the foreign press while outside the US, these "European youth" appear to be of middle eastern extraction, a possible connection -- maybe? But of course we can't call a spade a spade, that wold be inappropriate.

[NoOneImportant]

Call a spade a spade? Certainly, that would be most inappropriate. At some point in the future there will be those who will look back, and ask: "...didn't they have any idea where this would lead?"

[Trevor]

Reminds me a lot of WWII. I've heard many people ask why we didn't do something earlier, how we could have been so blind to what Germany and Japan were preparing. I myself didn't understand it when I was younger. However, I certainly do now. We like to think of ourselves as more intelligent and enlightened than our ancestors were, but circumstances are rapidly proving us wrong.

[Raynote]

About these so-called European youth, it reminds me a lot of the "French" youth who killed 4 people at the jewish museum in Brussels a month ago after returning from a rather long stay in Syria with ISIS. When he was arrested in the south of France all the media were repeating: he's a Frenchman, "originaire de Roubaix" (Roubaix is a town in the suburbs of Lille, a big city in the north).
Well, not exactly! Actually he's franco-algerian, his family is from Algeria (even if he was born in France)!

[NoOneImportant]

Trevor wrote:

We like to think of ourselves as more intelligent and enlightened than our ancestors were, but circumstances are rapidly proving us wrong.

Quite right, that IS what we like to think... it just isn't so. Whether your religious or not the Old Testament evolved from events starting roughly 1000-750 B.C. (depending upon whether we're talking about the events, or their writing.) That is a span of roughly 2700 - 3000 years. If you simply take it, the Old Testament, as a moral treatise its great depth never ceases to surprise - it ranges from short simple literal little stories that at first seem simple and trite; but over time, with reflection, I have come to understand that the simplicity is usually resident on my side of my glasses, for with contemplation I have found great moral depth; to the moral dept may be added, if one is disposed, a deep pleasing spiritual message; and finally a message leading to the eschatolgical, to all eternity. And all the messages come from a "simple" 3000 year old (more or less) translation of a book(s) left behind by the "ignorant", "uneducated", and depending upon who you are listening to, almost savage people.

While it's not quite so astounding, or profound similar observations might be made regarding the Iliad, and the Odyssey. And one need only reflect on some of Plato's dialogs (2400 years old), the Apology's four dialogs, to get a sense of the origins of man's ancient goodness, and reflect upon Plato's Republic as a dark example of an evil idea that has caused the murder of 10s of millions, an evil idea that just simply wont die. In either case these are shining brillian examples to illustrate man's current stunted development.

It isn't my purpose to convert, or preach but it is to reiterate your comment (paraphrasing)... perhaps we're not quite as bright as we would like to think. An iPad, or a SmartPhone does not an educated man make... you will become what you think about.

Great observations Treavor.

[gerald]

Call a spade a spade? Certainly, that would be most inappropriate. At some point in the future there will be those who will look back, and ask: "...didn't they have any idea where this would lead?"

Not that I want to be considered "conservative" or "liberal", or "right wing " or left wing" since words mean different things in different places, but I heard Rush Limbaugh a few years ago use the phrase that "liberalism is a mental disease" ( contrary to calling a spade a spade ) I thought he was a little over the top and a bit ridicules. However after watching the events of the last few years he may be more accurate then I would like to admit.

( an observation, I spent the last few weeks touring Iceland, they speak Icelandic, and most tourists are from Europe) however a large share of their sign advertising, packaging of products, directions, maps, descriptions of items in museums. etc. is in English and most people speak English. -- As for words -- in a museum dedicated to a famous mid 20th century Icelandic author there was a description of his activities and his support for the "German National Socialist Workers Party" and in parenthesis the word - Nazi. --- Apparently, many -- most? people do not know the Nazi were socialists and not, in the American thinking of "right" wing, even though the American media likes to call the Nazi "right" wing when they are really "left" wing or socialist, as their name implies.

Ah yes, the meaning of words, as in Orwell's INGSOC , the ministry of truth.

[NoOneImportant]

When I was in my 20s a spent a year in Turkey, and a couple in Japan, with a short vacation in Germany. What surprised me was how different people were, and yet so alike - different, yet the same. It's stayed with me for a lifetime.

In Shirer's book, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, he spends a considerable amount of time examining the Nazi vs Socialist conflict. He notes how deftly the members of one group would move to the other group, and with such ease. Although portrayed as opposite ends of the political spectrum they both have the same basis - coercion - the use of force/terror, to make "you" do what they desire. Your choices are reduced to being free to choose to do as they desire, or to die.

[gerald]

When I was in my 20s a spent a year in Turkey, and a couple in Japan, with a short vacation in Germany. What surprised me was how different people were, and yet so alike - different, yet the same. It's stayed with me for a lifetime.

In Shirer's book, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, he spends a considerable amount of time examining the Nazi vs Socialist conflict. He notes how deftly the members of one group would move to the other group, and with such ease. Although portrayed as opposite ends of the political spectrum they both have the same basis - coercion - the use of force/terror, to make "you" do what they desire. Your choices are reduced to being free to choose to do as they desire, or to die.

Is that not what governments strive for?