30-Aug-13 World View-China, Japan really DO hate each other

[John]

30-Aug-13 World View -- China and Japan really DO hate each other


Echoing 1938, Britain gives a pass to Syria's Bashar al-Assad

** 30-Aug-13 World View -- China and Japan really DO hate each other
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e130830



Contents:
China and Japan really DO hate each other
Echoing 1938, Britain gives a pass to Syria's Bashar al-Assad


Keys:
Generational Dynamics, China, Japan, Nanking Massacre,
Senkaku, Diaoyu, Britain, David Cameron, Vladimir Putin,
Syria, Russia, Bashar al-Assad, Adolf Hitler,
Nazis, Neville Chamberlain

[at99sy]

This has no connection to 1938 Germany. Hitler was invading others, Syria is killing terrorists and rebels who want to overthrow a sovereign government.
If Assad falls the terrorists win and further destabilize the region. Like the assassination of Libya's MQ showed, Western interests in this region have nothing to do with human rights but with continuance of the war state.

I was reassured by the Prime Ministers statement "it is clear to me that the British parliament, reflecting the views of the British people, does not want to see British military action." It would be nice if our representatives did this on occasion .

sy

[John]

> This has no connection to 1938 Germany. Hitler was invading
> others, Syria is killing terrorists and rebels who want to
> overthrow a sovereign government.

> If Assad falls the terrorists win and further destabilize the
> region. Like the assassination of Libya's MQ showed, Western
> interests in this region have nothing to do with human rights but
> with continuance of the war state.

> I was reassured by the Prime Ministers statement "it is clear to
> me that the British parliament, reflecting the views of the
> British people, does not want to see British military action." It
> would be nice if our representatives did this on occasion.

Do you say, as a matter of principle, that every politician should
always do what his constituents want, in all circumstances?

In other words, should every politician take a poll before make any
major decision?

If not, then when would there be an exception?

John

[Thorrarin]

This was posted yesterday by and AP reporter and Jordanian freelancer:
http://www.mintpressnews.com/witnesses- ... ns/168135/

If true: confirms rebels have access to chemical weapons, Saudis and Qataris are delivering money & weapons to rebels (including Jabhat al-Nusra), Prince Bindar of Saudi Arabia is delivering chemical weapons to untrained rebels, CIA (US government) is fully aware (and possibly backing) at least some of Prince Bindar's activities, the pretense for planned retaliation by the West is undermined by rebels having perpetrated the attack instead of Syrian government forces, and we confirm why you shouldn't let children play with dangerous toys.

However, as Sky news is currently showing video of what appears to be a napalm attack on a school by Syrian government forces, the West should be able to make a smooth transition into a new justification for air strikes.

http://news.sky.com/story/1135090/syria ... ool-attack

[JULLIEN1]

Echoing 1938, Britain gives a pass to Syria's Bashar al-Assad

The event can be seen as:
1°) a victory for parliamentary democracy. The House of Commons has remembered the British Parliament is the focus of democratic legitimacy. From a French point of view it's amazing: nobody here seriously expects the National Assembly to reject a bill if proposed by the Government (the last time it happens it was in 2008) and certainly not on important business such as foreign policy.
2°) poetic justice: who are the cheese-eating surrendering monkeys now ?
3°) the confirmation we don't live in a wilsonian world
4°) A minor impediment for Barack Obama, a major defeat for David Cameron
5°) After Mali a confirmation François Hollande is in fact quite bellicose (he wants to move on and he has just sent a warship towards Syria)
6°) A success for Assad

[at99sy]

> This has no connection to 1938 Germany. Hitler was invading
> others, Syria is killing terrorists and rebels who want to
> overthrow a sovereign government.

> If Assad falls the terrorists win and further destabilize the
> region. Like the assassination of Libya's MQ showed, Western
> interests in this region have nothing to do with human rights but
> with continuance of the war state.

> I was reassured by the Prime Ministers statement "it is clear to
> me that the British parliament, reflecting the views of the
> British people, does not want to see British military action." It
> would be nice if our representatives did this on occasion.

Do you say, as a matter of principle, that every politician should
always do what his constituents want, in all circumstances?

In other words, should every politician take a poll before make any
major decision?

If not, then when would there be an exception?

John

No, that is why I said "would be nice if our representatives did this on occasion." the litmus test might be, "Are you willing to send your son and daughter to fight for these people? " if no then keep our sons and daughters the hell out of it. If so send them and leave us out of it.
Both sides are against us in Syria, Assad will keep things stable, The radicals will not. The only thing we have to fear in Syria is the state falling and the terrorists gaining access to all the weapons like in Libya.

[gerald]

Regarding Syria ---

Is the West/US acting like the Keystone Cops? --- They were fictional incompetent policemen, featured in silent film comedies in the early 20th century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Cops --- A good representation of current events? Truth as comedy? --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jphxpi1ro

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-3 ... ve-webcast
John Kerry Explains "The Situation In Syria" - Live Webcast
"Forget the Brits" , "Yes, Assad did it" , "No, the Saudis are our friends" , "Yes, Putin is a bad guy, he's Russian you know" , "The French are with us" , "We could show you 'definitive' proof but it's confidential and would put American lives at risk" , "chemical weapons... did u see those images"
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-3 ... -full-repo
"Proof" Assad Used Chemical Weapons Is One Hundred YouTube Clips: Full Report Attached
"In other words, America may be about to launch World War III on the basis of one hundred videos, which it believes "the Syrian opposition does not have the capability to fabricate.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-3 ... al-attacks
Don't Show Obama This Report About Who Really Is Behind The Syrian Chemical Attacks
"As we showed mere days ago, it appears the truth of who the real puppet-master in the Middle-East is becoming plainer to see. The incredibly frank discussion between Saudi's spy-chief Prince Bandar and Russia's Putin exposed a much deeper plot is afoot and the following details from the actual people on the ground in the chemically-attacked region of Syria suggest Obama is playing right into the Saudi's plan. While Obama is 'certain' that the chemical attacks took place on al-Assad's orders, as MPN reports, "from numerous interviews with doctors, Ghouta residents, rebel fighters and their families, a different picture emerges. Many believe that certain rebels received chemical weapons via the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, and were responsible for carrying out the dealing gas attack."
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from wealth daily --

https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/u/0/#in ... 15d3fec591

According to an investigation by the Middle East news outlet Al Monitor, Saudi Arabia has secretly offered Russia a deal to control the global oil market and safeguard Russia's gas contracts if the Kremlin backs away from the Assad regime in Syria.

And Lebanese newspaper As-Safir wrote that Saudi Prince Bandar offered to protect Russia's Syrian naval base if the Assad regime is taken out, and suggested that there could be Chechen terrorist attacks on Russia's Winter Olympics if Putin didn't work with the Saudis on this.

Allegedly, Bandar said: “I can give you a guarantee to protect the Winter Olympics next year. The Chechen groups that threaten the security of the games are controlled by us.”


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http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/03 ... per-trail/

More recently, a set of articles from the Broward Bulldog and the Daily Telegraph (UK) a few weeks ago have raised new questions. These matters were originally discussed in the authors’ September, 2011 investigative work that identified a Saudi family that left southern Florida, and then the United States, in late August 2001. The group of people included a person associated with members of the Saudi royal family as well as significant banking interests. And apparently the FBI’s inquiry into these people was withheld from the Congressional Joint Inquiry into 9/11, as well as the 9/11 Commission. -

In late 2003, while working in a money laundering role at the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago, I noticed the above-noted surge in currency shipments in mid-2001 and the August 2, 2001 supervisory letter urging the Reserve Banks to scrutinize suspicious activity reports. I then asked a relevant person whether that letter reflected intelligence warnings of terrorist threats, and was planning to follow up with some ideas about how and why those currency shipments could be investigated. About a week later, my money laundering assignment was terminated and I was told I had committed an “egregious breach of protocol.” About a month later my position in the bank was eliminated. -

The thought of people with a lot of money ‘in the know,’ and scrambling to get cash out of banking systems before 9/11, without any investigation or prosecution by U.S. authorities of the possibility, well, that can be scary enough. - See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2012/03 ... n6JML.dpuf

Is the West/Us acting like the Keystone Cops? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[at99sy]

Gerald

"Proof" Assad Used Chemical Weapons Is One Hundred YouTube Clips: Full Report Attached
"In other words, America may be about to launch World War III on the basis of one hundred videos, which it believes "the Syrian opposition does not have the capability to fabricate."

Very much like this administration blamed a youtube video for the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi right. Incompetence reigns supreme indeed.

cheers
sy