1-May-13 WV-Giddy politicians declare a Mideast 'sea change'

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1-May-13 WV-Giddy politicians declare a Mideast 'sea change'

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1-May-13 World View -- Giddy politicians declare a 'sea change' in Mideast negotiations

Pakistan government ignores terrorist extermination threats to Hazara Shias

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Giddy politicians declare a 'sea change' in Mideast negotiations
Pakistan government ignores terrorist extermination threats to Hazara Shias
Eurozone receives another disastrous unemployment report


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Generational Dynamics, Arab League, John Kerry, Joe Biden,
Arab Peace Initiative, Jerusalem,
Pakistan, Hazaras, Shias, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, LeJ,
Taliban, Quetta,
Eurozone, Greece, Spain, unemployment

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Re: 1-May-13 WV-Giddy politicians declare a Mideast 'sea cha

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whatever is going to happen is going to happen, and telling one lie after another won't change that.
So true. Trying to keep the truth locked up is like trying to keep a beach ball under water - it's a lot of effort and will eventually wear you out and escape your grasp.

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Re: 1-May-13 WV-Giddy politicians declare a Mideast 'sea cha

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John wrote:The "sea change" is that the Arab League will not permit "minor land swaps" as part of the Israeli-Palestinian agreement. I'm not kidding. That's the "sea change." Get ready to pop the champagne corks.
I believe there is a minor typo in the above. I believe the word "not" should be "now", as in "the Arab League will now permit ...".

Sad part is reading it either way, it is not much of a change.

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terror group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) wrote:"Our mission [in Pakistan] is the abolition of this impure sect and people, the Shias and the Shia Hazaras, from every city, every village, every nook and corner of Pakistan. Like in the past, [our] successful Jihad against the Hazaras in Pakistan and, in particular, in Quetta is ongoing and will continue. We will make Pakistan their graveyard-- their houses will be destroyed by bombs and suicide bombers. ... Jihad against the Shia Hazaras has now become our duty. ... We will rest only after hoisting the flag of true Islam on the land of the pure -- Pakistan."
These are words testifying to the groups intent to commit mass murder and ethnic cleansing. Their acts of truck bombing prove they have both the capacity and will to carry out the mass murder and ethnic cleansing they are promising. Yet the politicians in the west who proclaim outrage when someone spray paints the side of a Sunni Muslim "Islamic Center" in the west, are totally silent about these words and deeds.

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Re: 1-May-13 WV-Giddy politicians declare a Mideast 'sea cha

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has claimed credit for massive horrific slaughter in Quetta, Pakistan, of hundreds of Shias from the Hazara ethnic group by huge truck bombs. A week ago, a truck bomb killed 6 people and wounded dozens others when it was stopped at a checkpoint en route to another Hazara terrorist target in Quetta.

Having been in Afghanistan for a year and dealing with the indigenous population is not reported in the media that in the regional life and the local culture is very hierarchical unlike in the North America/Western Europe zone. The Hazara is on the bottom of the tribal hierarchy because they are nomadic goat and sheepherders. They rent out their services to the highest “bidder”. Since they have no “land” or tribal claim, they are like the old cattlemen of the American west. Now many refugees are moving back to Afghanistan from Pakistan and trying to reclaim villages that they left one or two generations ago when the Russian or Taliban moved in and guess who is grazing their sheep on “their” land? Also, the borders are basically non-existent. The Af/Pak border is a line on the map drawn by Lord Durand and is a border control/tax collection station on the A75 between Spin Buldak, Af and Quetta-Chapman/Pakistan. The Hazara walk over the border with their sheep all the time. The more industrial of the Hazara have settled in Quetta and scattered all over Balochistan, and guess who sees the Hazara as competitors for jobs and other resources? The local Baloch ethnic/tribe group. Last, there is hardly any intermingling or marriage between the local groups, just old antagonisms from centuries ago. Remember, in that area where the Hazara live, memories and feuds go back generations and centuries.

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