Add 40 million 3rd world illegals in America to that mix, and you have maximum death and destruction. And defeat.FullMoon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:49 pmI'm quite anxious about this. It's not that the West will give up, it's that there won't even be a sufficient response capable of being mustered. The mobilization and coordination would have to be fast enough to provide food and water to a relatively helpless and confused population. Something like that Obama movie....Yes, blockading China will have immediate impact, and will eventually doom them. But they will be betting that we will throw in the towel well before that causes internal revolution. As the FBI is warning, they are going to take down ALL of Western interconnected infrastructure in the hope that the West will give up when the encounter real life altering hardships.
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The following data is from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform): There are now 16.8 Million illegal residents in the USA. The numbers are increasing at a rate in excess of 15% per year. The NET cost of these illegals is 150.6 Billion per year. This puts the rate at right about $9k per year per illegal.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:21 amDemographic change financed by you, the tax payer.
Migrants are so awesome for the economy that it costs us $380 per day to house & feed them. That's $138,000 per year, more than most American families make per year.
The cost of a plane ticket to Mexico City is only $346, less than it costs us to house one of them for one solitary day.
So if an illegal comes here at age 20, and lives to 70 (a reasonable estimate), ON AVERAGE they will cost the USA (including a 2% per year inflation on the current outlay) $760,000 apiece. Note that some do find work and integrate fully into society, but this is already part of the averaging and the total NET cost of illegals, as those that don't cost far more than $9k per year.
But then liberals think that the government can just create additional money at will, ad infinitum. This is literally insane.
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Funny thing about the Obama movie - the power stays on the whole time. The lights never go out. That's the first thing that would happen.FullMoon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:49 pmI'm quite anxious about this. It's not that the West will give up, it's that there won't even be a sufficient response capable of being mustered. The mobilization and coordination would have to be fast enough to provide food and water to a relatively helpless and confused population. Something like that Obama movie....Yes, blockading China will have immediate impact, and will eventually doom them. But they will be betting that we will throw in the towel well before that causes internal revolution. As the FBI is warning, they are going to take down ALL of Western interconnected infrastructure in the hope that the West will give up when the encounter real life altering hardships.
It actually will be, in a strange way, a good thing when it happens, as Americans will finally understand that they are under direct attack. And will be even more upset than about an attack on the military. It would also rob the Chinese of their ability to influence through propaganda.
We would have to fall back on a lot of manual systems, which will actually happen much quicker than we think it could, but people will be motivated to get it done. It just won't be overnight. And civilian "lifestyles" are the lowest priority (food/water are high priority, but power for TV and internet are not).
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You are not taking free medical care in to account, nor public school costs, nor housing and food stamps. Now way that all costs 9K.Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:13 pmThe following data is from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform): There are now 16.8 Million illegal residents in the USA. The numbers are increasing at a rate in excess of 15% per year. The NET cost of these illegals is 150.6 Billion per year. This puts the rate at right about $9k per year per illegal.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:21 amDemographic change financed by you, the tax payer.
Migrants are so awesome for the economy that it costs us $380 per day to house & feed them. That's $138,000 per year, more than most American families make per year.
The cost of a plane ticket to Mexico City is only $346, less than it costs us to house one of them for one solitary day.
So if an illegal comes here at age 20, and lives to 70 (a reasonable estimate), ON AVERAGE they will cost the USA (including a 2% per year inflation on the current outlay) $760,000 apiece. Note that some do find work and integrate fully into society, but this is already part of the averaging and the total NET cost of illegals, as those that don't cost far more than $9k per year.
But then liberals think that the government can just create additional money at will, ad infinitum. This is literally insane.
FAIR data sounds like it comes from 1992...
and then there is the human cost. Soaring rates of theft, violent robberies, rapes, and murders. Just ask the NYPD has their lives have improved after BLM, defunding, and mass illegal migration in to the Gotham.
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Do you think Trump deports any of these?Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:13 pmThe following data is from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform): There are now 16.8 Million illegal residents in the USA. The numbers are increasing at a rate in excess of 15% per year. The NET cost of these illegals is 150.6 Billion per year. This puts the rate at right about $9k per year per illegal.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:21 amDemographic change financed by you, the tax payer.
Migrants are so awesome for the economy that it costs us $380 per day to house & feed them. That's $138,000 per year, more than most American families make per year.
The cost of a plane ticket to Mexico City is only $346, less than it costs us to house one of them for one solitary day.
So if an illegal comes here at age 20, and lives to 70 (a reasonable estimate), ON AVERAGE they will cost the USA (including a 2% per year inflation on the current outlay) $760,000 apiece. Note that some do find work and integrate fully into society, but this is already part of the averaging and the total NET cost of illegals, as those that don't cost far more than $9k per year.
But then liberals think that the government can just create additional money at will, ad infinitum. This is literally insane.
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I used to live in the ex-Soviet Union and was in a post Soviet army. A few observations.Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:21 pmFunny thing about the Obama movie - the power stays on the whole time. The lights never go out. That's the first thing that would happen.FullMoon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:49 pmI'm quite anxious about this. It's not that the West will give up, it's that there won't even be a sufficient response capable of being mustered. The mobilization and coordination would have to be fast enough to provide food and water to a relatively helpless and confused population. Something like that Obama movie....Yes, blockading China will have immediate impact, and will eventually doom them. But they will be betting that we will throw in the towel well before that causes internal revolution. As the FBI is warning, they are going to take down ALL of Western interconnected infrastructure in the hope that the West will give up when the encounter real life altering hardships.
It actually will be, in a strange way, a good thing when it happens, as Americans will finally understand that they are under direct attack. And will be even more upset than about an attack on the military. It would also rob the Chinese of their ability to influence through propaganda.
We would have to fall back on a lot of manual systems, which will actually happen much quicker than we think it could, but people will be motivated to get it done. It just won't be overnight. And civilian "lifestyles" are the lowest priority (food/water are high priority, but power for TV and internet are not).
Millions of Russians did not adjust to the collapse of the Soviet union and died quickly. Most drank themselves to death. Drugs overdoses and AIDS were, and are, rampant. Violent crime is also rampant in modern Russia. The average Russian is not capable of living off the grid as some You Tubers would have you believe. Rural Russians live in poverty, but they always have. They live like Africans. However, rural populations have electricity and natural gas. Some have small gardens. Male life expectancy is 56, or 53. Whatever you chose to believe. Russians are not really tough. They are just used to a much lower standard of living.
Americans are, overall, much more resourceful and much stronger than Russians.
Russians in Moscow live relatively well, but not high by Western standards. There is no conscription in Moscow, the city with the largest number of young males in Russia. Conscription in Moscow and Saint Petersburg would led to revolution, and Putin knows it.
Mass illegal immigration from Latin America has crippled the United States. Also, racial issues with Black Lives Matter has destroyed public safety and small and large businesses are looted every day. Political cowardice has left American government paralyzed and unwilling to restore it. There is no security in America now. Blacks are the golems destroying America. (But you know that.)
Yevgeny Prigozhin's ghost will return. Putin had him killed, and everyone knows it. Yevgeny Prigozhin became what is extremely rare in modern Russia: a hero. Prigozhin's soldiers hate Putin and the incompetents that still operate the Russian armed forces. Perhaps it was only out of cynical self-interest, or perhaps it became sincere, but Prigozhin appeared to care about his dead soldiers. Prigozhin's speech at night in front of the fresh corpses of dead Wagner soldiers still circulates heavily on social media platforms in Russia. The only man I have ever seen Russians truly mourn since the fall of the Soviet Union. Putin had him murdered, and the average Russian hates him for it. Prigozhin will be Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin's undoing.
Remember my words.
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** 02-Feb-2024 World View: China's attack
Navigator, Trevor, and I and others
have expressed viewa of different
scenarios of how China will
initially launch its attack. These
include attacks on Taiwan, Korea,
and Japan, as well as attacks on the
United States with nuclear weapons
and/or troops crossing the Bering
Strait or crossing the Pacific in
thousands of militarized fishing
boats.
But I see the initial attack
differently. I believe that China's
initial attacks will be huge and
crippling, and will be launched internal
to the United States. These attacks
will be massive, coordinated, and affect
every aspect of American life.
"multi-tiered," the word that the
administration is using to describe the
planned military response to Iran.
So, my expectation is that when the
Chinese Communists decide to strike, it
will be a multi-tiered attack.
Navigator, Trevor, and I and others
have expressed viewa of different
scenarios of how China will
initially launch its attack. These
include attacks on Taiwan, Korea,
and Japan, as well as attacks on the
United States with nuclear weapons
and/or troops crossing the Bering
Strait or crossing the Pacific in
thousands of militarized fishing
boats.
But I see the initial attack
differently. I believe that China's
initial attacks will be huge and
crippling, and will be launched internal
to the United States. These attacks
will be massive, coordinated, and affect
every aspect of American life.
- China will launch dozens of
simultaneous terrorist attacks on
American targets, conducted by Chinese
terrorist groups formed from the (tens
of) thousands of military-age Chinese
men without IDs pouring across the
Southern border and released into cities
across America with no vetting except to
come to a court date ten years from
now. - They may also be joined by
military-age men without ID pouring
across the Southern border from those of
the 140 countries who are China's
allies. - Simultaneously, there will be
massive Chinee cyberattacks on American
electrical grids, power stations, water
stations, ports, bridges, buses, transit
systems, and other infrastructure
targets. FBI Director Christopher Wray
warned about this in testimony in
Congress on Wednesday, saying that the
hackers aim to "wreak havoc" on the
entire country. - Simultaneously, China will have its
army of Chinese terrorist groups (see
above) specifically target strategically
important individuals, from a list
culled from China's huge database of
hundreds of millions of Americans that
they've been building for years by
hacking government and commercial
databases around the world.
(http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... tm#e181221)
The database contains name, SS num,
phone, location, and other personal
information for each person. - Simultaneously, China's military
will take control of all Huawei routers
on networks across America and around
the world. As I wrote years ago, I have
the skills to use encryption to hide a
"backdoor" in the code of a Huawei
router, so that no one could find the
backdoor without knowing the value of a
1,024-bit private key. If I have the
skills, then lots of people in China's
military also do. So we can be certain
China's military can control or disable
every Huawei (or ZTE) router in the
world, and shut off the vital networks
they're connected to. - Simultaneously, China's military
will control or disable all Huawei/ZTE
phones and other electronic
devices. - Simultaneously, China's military
will take control of all devices that
have installed TikTok. - Simultaneously, China's military
will launch dozens of ballistic and
hypersonic missiles, with nuclear and
EMS warheads, targeting American cities
and military bases.
"multi-tiered," the word that the
administration is using to describe the
planned military response to Iran.
So, my expectation is that when the
Chinese Communists decide to strike, it
will be a multi-tiered attack.
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This is the data from F.A.I.R and it is pretty accurate. The key word is AVERAGE, across all illegals, across all situations they are in. And yes it includes education and food stamps. The criminality, and the potential terrorists and 5th Column Chinese are additional issues.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:10 pmYou are not taking free medical care in to account, nor public school costs, nor housing and food stamps. Now way that all costs 9K.Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:13 pmThe following data is from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform): There are now 16.8 Million illegal residents in the USA. The numbers are increasing at a rate in excess of 15% per year. The NET cost of these illegals is 150.6 Billion per year. This puts the rate at right about $9k per year per illegal.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 1:21 amDemographic change financed by you, the tax payer.
Migrants are so awesome for the economy that it costs us $380 per day to house & feed them. That's $138,000 per year, more than most American families make per year.
The cost of a plane ticket to Mexico City is only $346, less than it costs us to house one of them for one solitary day.
So if an illegal comes here at age 20, and lives to 70 (a reasonable estimate), ON AVERAGE they will cost the USA (including a 2% per year inflation on the current outlay) $760,000 apiece. Note that some do find work and integrate fully into society, but this is already part of the averaging and the total NET cost of illegals, as those that don't cost far more than $9k per year.
But then liberals think that the government can just create additional money at will, ad infinitum. This is literally insane.
FAIR data sounds like it comes from 1992...
and then there is the human cost. Soaring rates of theft, violent robberies, rapes, and murders. Just ask the NYPD has their lives have improved after BLM, defunding, and mass illegal migration in to the Gotham.
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Why did congressional inquiries last week put the yearly cost of illegal migrant to taxpayers at 451 BILLION dollars a year?
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As a white American Hispanic, I'm more worried about 5th column Latinos. They hate the United States and Americans. The Mexican government is openly pro-Russian and is a hive of FSB/GRU activity. You don't have to believe me, GOOGLE it. If you speak Spanish, go online and read the message boards. Mexicans and other Central Americans are all virulently anti-American and pro-Putin, pro China, pro anyone anti-American.Navigator wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:48 amThis is the data from F.A.I.R and it is pretty accurate. The key word is AVERAGE, across all illegals, across all situations they are in. And yes it includes education and food stamps. The criminality, and the potential terrorists and 5th Column Chinese are additional issues.Guest wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 9:10 pmYou are not taking free medical care in to account, nor public school costs, nor housing and food stamps. Now way that all costs 9K.Navigator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:13 pm
The following data is from FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform): There are now 16.8 Million illegal residents in the USA. The numbers are increasing at a rate in excess of 15% per year. The NET cost of these illegals is 150.6 Billion per year. This puts the rate at right about $9k per year per illegal.
So if an illegal comes here at age 20, and lives to 70 (a reasonable estimate), ON AVERAGE they will cost the USA (including a 2% per year inflation on the current outlay) $760,000 apiece. Note that some do find work and integrate fully into society, but this is already part of the averaging and the total NET cost of illegals, as those that don't cost far more than $9k per year.
But then liberals think that the government can just create additional money at will, ad infinitum. This is literally insane.
FAIR data sounds like it comes from 1992...
and then there is the human cost. Soaring rates of theft, violent robberies, rapes, and murders. Just ask the NYPD has their lives have improved after BLM, defunding, and mass illegal migration in to the Gotham.
Please become grounded in reality and stop virtue signalling or pretending the problem does not exist; otherwise, we will lose the war.
Until we drop DEI and woke fear of being called racists, we will never address the true dangers among us.
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