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Peckham protests illustrate the redundancy of ‘Bame’
Tensions between non-white minorities have been persistently ignored

Following footage circulating online of a black woman accused of theft being physically restrained by a male Asian-heritage shopkeeper in the south-east London district of Peckham, the matter of community cohesion in England’s diverse inner cities has once again been thrust into the spotlight.

Tense community relations between elements of Britain’s wider Asian and black populations are nothing new. The 2005 Birmingham riots — specifically in the relatively deprived Lozells and Handsworth areas — were primarily between people of Pakistani origin and Black Caribbean heritage. The riots were sparked following rumours that a teenage black girl had allegedly been gang-raped by a group of Pakistani-heritage men in a beauty parlour. The unsubstantiated whispers were presented as fact by two pirate radio stations, contributing towards a major escalation. The riots were connected to two fatalities: 23-year-old Isaiah Young-Sam and teenager Aaron James.

However, much like south-east London in the present, there were simmering tensions between Asian-origin business owners and local black residents in Birmingham. The acquisition of many local businesses by Asian-origin entrepreneurs had reportedly unsettled members of African-Caribbean communities, and this was exacerbated by complaints of mistreatment against Asian-heritage business owners by black customers. Those who ran the enterprises responded by accusing members of the African-Caribbean community of envy for their socioeconomic progress and ownership of assets. More serious allegations included theft, with one Pakistani-heritage shopkeeper referring to black people as “the lowest of the low”.

Fast forward to September 2023 and virtually identical dynamics have taken root in south-east London — racial friction based on socioeconomic status and business ownership, a breakdown of shopkeeper-customer relations along ethnic lines, and a fundamental lack of neighbourhood policing enforcement to maintain public order. In places such as Peckham, the local black population comfortably outnumbers the Asian one, yet a significant number of small-to-medium-sized enterprises which cater to the former, wider demographic are owned by the latter.

Social interactions which could optimistically be viewed as opportunities to build trust and mutual respect between groups have instead been rendered toxic by an intensifying competition of resources, ethnic prejudice, and growing business-customer resentment. This is worsened by the absence of a well-respected model of neighbourhood policing which covers areas with a high concentration of street shops.

The latest events in Peckham highlight the utterly redundant nature of the “Bame” acronym, which tends to mask the reality that some of the sharpest social fault lines in modern Britain do not involve the white-British mainstream at all. A report published in August 2020 by Hope Not Hate found that twice as many so-called “Bame” respondents agreed (40%) than disagreed that there is more tension between Britain’s minority communities, when compared with those between white and non-white populations.

This was followed by a February 2021 HJS-ICM study which found that black British respondents were more likely to have an unfavourable view of Pakistani-, Bangladeshi-, and Indian-heritage people (11.2%, 11.1%, and 8.7% respectively) than white Britons (7.9%).

While apparently progressive politicians in the inner cities continue to repeat empty platitudes such as “diversity is our strength”, the failure to integrate ethnically diverse communities carries significant risks to public order. This threat is further complicated by ethnic differences in socio-economic status and the de facto decriminalisation of low-level crime in many urban areas.

Social and economic tensions in Peckham between non-white communities does not constitute a recent phenomenon. Rather, these serve as yet another reminder of the complexities of modern Britain and the fact that diversity is by no means an unadulterated good. As it stands, far too many in positions of national and local leadership are sleeping at the wheel.

Several journalists in the UK have blamed (and I kid you not) 'White Supremacy' for the violence between blacks and Pakistanis/Indians (which are called 'Asians in the UK).

This is where the real violence is already erupting. In England its blacks vs. Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Koreans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, etc.

In America its blacks fighting with every race except for white liberals (which blacks happily victimize).

Source: https://unherd.com/thepost/peckham-prot ... ame-label/

[aeden]

“Let’s say you had a hundred women who you’d never met before,”
“and you had to pick a wife based on their personality tests: You’d never do it, would you?”

Marketing is showing your education. Do you pick a stock you do not know.
You had been warned but you never read what H tried to warn you about.

[aeden]

Good luck on mercurial interview skills sets in the future.

[Another guest]

Peckham protests illustrate the redundancy of ‘Bame’
Tensions between non-white minorities have been persistently ignored

Following footage circulating online of a black woman accused of theft being physically restrained by a male Asian-heritage shopkeeper in the south-east London district of Peckham, the matter of community cohesion in England’s diverse inner cities has once again been thrust into the spotlight.

Tense community relations between elements of Britain’s wider Asian and black populations are nothing new. The 2005 Birmingham riots — specifically in the relatively deprived Lozells and Handsworth areas — were primarily between people of Pakistani origin and Black Caribbean heritage. The riots were sparked following rumours that a teenage black girl had allegedly been gang-raped by a group of Pakistani-heritage men in a beauty parlour. The unsubstantiated whispers were presented as fact by two pirate radio stations, contributing towards a major escalation. The riots were connected to two fatalities: 23-year-old Isaiah Young-Sam and teenager Aaron James.

However, much like south-east London in the present, there were simmering tensions between Asian-origin business owners and local black residents in Birmingham. The acquisition of many local businesses by Asian-origin entrepreneurs had reportedly unsettled members of African-Caribbean communities, and this was exacerbated by complaints of mistreatment against Asian-heritage business owners by black customers. Those who ran the enterprises responded by accusing members of the African-Caribbean community of envy for their socioeconomic progress and ownership of assets. More serious allegations included theft, with one Pakistani-heritage shopkeeper referring to black people as “the lowest of the low”.

Fast forward to September 2023 and virtually identical dynamics have taken root in south-east London — racial friction based on socioeconomic status and business ownership, a breakdown of shopkeeper-customer relations along ethnic lines, and a fundamental lack of neighbourhood policing enforcement to maintain public order. In places such as Peckham, the local black population comfortably outnumbers the Asian one, yet a significant number of small-to-medium-sized enterprises which cater to the former, wider demographic are owned by the latter.

Social interactions which could optimistically be viewed as opportunities to build trust and mutual respect between groups have instead been rendered toxic by an intensifying competition of resources, ethnic prejudice, and growing business-customer resentment. This is worsened by the absence of a well-respected model of neighbourhood policing which covers areas with a high concentration of street shops.

The latest events in Peckham highlight the utterly redundant nature of the “Bame” acronym, which tends to mask the reality that some of the sharpest social fault lines in modern Britain do not involve the white-British mainstream at all. A report published in August 2020 by Hope Not Hate found that twice as many so-called “Bame” respondents agreed (40%) than disagreed that there is more tension between Britain’s minority communities, when compared with those between white and non-white populations.

This was followed by a February 2021 HJS-ICM study which found that black British respondents were more likely to have an unfavourable view of Pakistani-, Bangladeshi-, and Indian-heritage people (11.2%, 11.1%, and 8.7% respectively) than white Britons (7.9%).

While apparently progressive politicians in the inner cities continue to repeat empty platitudes such as “diversity is our strength”, the failure to integrate ethnically diverse communities carries significant risks to public order. This threat is further complicated by ethnic differences in socio-economic status and the de facto decriminalisation of low-level crime in many urban areas.

Social and economic tensions in Peckham between non-white communities does not constitute a recent phenomenon. Rather, these serve as yet another reminder of the complexities of modern Britain and the fact that diversity is by no means an unadulterated good. As it stands, far too many in positions of national and local leadership are sleeping at the wheel.

Several journalists in the UK have blamed (and I kid you not) 'White Supremacy' for the violence between blacks and Pakistanis/Indians (which are called 'Asians in the UK).

This is where the real violence is already erupting. In England its blacks vs. Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, Koreans, Chinese, Eastern Europeans, etc.

In America its blacks fighting with every race except for white liberals (which blacks happily victimize).

Source: https://unherd.com/thepost/peckham-prot ... ame-label/

I've seen the video of this event. It clearly shows black women, who fight like men, punching a Pakistani store owner in the face.

And blacks running around the next day saying this is about "respecting black women" . Huh?

[Higgenbotham]

Where and when do you think the combination of highest quality and highest square footage mass housing construction took place?

That is a great question, and it is not my area of expertise, but you seem well versed in it, so I'll venture to guess that regions like Texas and similar are up there and you're right or very close.

You make a lot of good points otherwise too in that post. I think quality was much higher as well, but there is something to be said about expansive nonsense in housing and I think that also comes with the gynocentric culture of consumption. As women and wives dramatically changed, and were more manipulated by the powers that be, families acquiesced to greater spending, and nonsense spending, than ever before. Yes.

Either way, costs are high, and housing costs are high. What I'm saying here also dovetails with the fertility issue, with women ascending in society (talking European Ameicans especially here), costs go up, labor is paid less, and principles erode. Cue Glubb again if you wish, but all of this is obvious.

It's funny to me how this is generally not received well at this forum, which shows me that many of the posters, although "conservative" haven't really thought about what they stand for, or the Overton Window all that much.

There were many relevant things that came to mind in addition to what I mentioned.

One would be a discussion of what people really need in housing square foot wise versus what they want, followed by an additional discussion of why they want more than they need (aside from needing more space to store all their junk). Part of that discussion would certainly include your second paragraph above.

However, for the moment, I will relate a recent story to illustrate.

In April, here in Texas, a man who had lost his wife at about age 60 put his 3000 square foot family home up for sale. It was a brick home with an oversized lot on a cul-de-sac. The house had 2 zone AC and he replaced the unit about 4 years ago along with a new gas furnace, both high quality Trane units. The roof was also recently replaced. The foundation had been repaired, as many here in Texas are, and he had caught it earlier than most. A highly reputable company had done the repair under the supervision of a licensed engineer and it was under warranty.

However, the house didn't have all of the "upgrades" that many consider essential such as granite countertops and what have you. The house sat with no offers while other houses around it sold.

A realtor told me the seller had asked what was wrong with it. I told him nothing was wrong with it. I said the seller had done all of the right things and if anyone wanted to do their own upgrades that should be on them with the house priced accordingly, and it was priced accordingly.

So here is the conversation that I was told took place about the house between 3 women:

Native white woman 1: The house needs upgrades. It is unacceptable.
Native white woman 2: Makes ugly faces as she walks through the house.
Foreign woman who has lived in the US a few years: You can't buy the extra land and the cul-de-sac. He did the right things to the house and anything that someone thinks it needs can be done later. There is nothing that needs to be done now.

The man lowered the price on the house about 30K and it sold immediately. My opinion was it was priced 10K under what it is worth for the current market (ignoring any opinions about what will happen longer term) so anybody who got a discount off the asking price gained that much more. I don't know who bought it.

[Higgenbotham]

The correct way to think about getting a college degree in the Lottery Economy is, with elite overproduction, there will not be enough available seats for all degree holders, even for engineers, and the process for who gets those seats will be more random than people would like to think (a pandemic hits the year you graduate, for example). Engineering schools and others will publicize the average starting salary for an engineer at about $80,000 currently. That is not the true average; it is the average for those who fill the available seats. Still, I think the premium for obtaining the degree and getting a seat at the table is enough that placement rates would have to fall below about 30% before kids who are capable would consider not playing the STEM lottery based on monetary considerations alone.

‘It’s Not Necessary’: As College Gets More And More Expensive, Gen Z Just Isn’t Going

BRANDON POULTER
September 13, 2023


College enrollment in the U.S. is currently at a 16-year low as tuition grows increasingly expensive and college degrees lose value.

Colleges have become much more expensive over the past 40 years, and the benefits to prospective students’ wealth are decreasing, leading some would-be Gen Z students to avoid college altogether. Similarly, other prospective students are becoming less trustful of institutions and are disenchanted with the politics of college life.

Roughly 18 million students were enrolled in university in the fall 2022 semester, nearly 2 million less than in the fall of 2011, according to the National Student Clearing House Research Center. From the fall of 2019 to the spring of 2023, college enrollment fell by nearly 9%.

“So many young people today are finally waking up to the reality that unless you’re going to choose a major with very high earnings, potentially college is not a good financial decision for you,” E.J. Antoni, a public finance economist at The Heritage Foundation, told the DCNF.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/13/coll ... -expensive

The number of people of college age during the years mentioned has held pretty steady so it would be accurate to compare these numbers.

Looking at the underlined sentences above, it seems people's experience with the random nature of outcomes is leading to changes.

[Guest]

The correct way to think about getting a college degree in the Lottery Economy is, with elite overproduction, there will not be enough available seats for all degree holders, even for engineers, and the process for who gets those seats will be more random than people would like to think (a pandemic hits the year you graduate, for example). Engineering schools and others will publicize the average starting salary for an engineer at about $80,000 currently. That is not the true average; it is the average for those who fill the available seats. Still, I think the premium for obtaining the degree and getting a seat at the table is enough that placement rates would have to fall below about 30% before kids who are capable would consider not playing the STEM lottery based on monetary considerations alone.

‘It’s Not Necessary’: As College Gets More And More Expensive, Gen Z Just Isn’t Going

BRANDON POULTER
September 13, 2023


College enrollment in the U.S. is currently at a 16-year low as tuition grows increasingly expensive and college degrees lose value.

Colleges have become much more expensive over the past 40 years, and the benefits to prospective students’ wealth are decreasing, leading some would-be Gen Z students to avoid college altogether. Similarly, other prospective students are becoming less trustful of institutions and are disenchanted with the politics of college life.

Roughly 18 million students were enrolled in university in the fall 2022 semester, nearly 2 million less than in the fall of 2011, according to the National Student Clearing House Research Center. From the fall of 2019 to the spring of 2023, college enrollment fell by nearly 9%.

“So many young people today are finally waking up to the reality that unless you’re going to choose a major with very high earnings, potentially college is not a good financial decision for you,” E.J. Antoni, a public finance economist at The Heritage Foundation, told the DCNF.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/13/coll ... -expensive

The number of people of college age during the years mentioned has held pretty steady so it would be accurate to compare these numbers.

Looking at the underlined sentences above, it seems people's experience with the random nature of outcomes is leading to changes.

White males, now under attack by Critical Race Theory, have bailed on college and are opting to learn a trade.

Good. Now remember why you choose to avoid college, and do not forgive.

[spottybrowncow]

I have great respect for tradesmen. Apprenticeships have been the norm for far longer than liberal arts degrees. Some would argue that what is newest is best, and that all that came before is obsolete, but I think that this is a foolish conjecture. Any reasonably intelligent person who chose to learn a trade could, if they wished, pursue 12 months or so of intense reading, and learn everything of value that would come from a liberal arts degree. Minus the bullshit and indoctrination.

[Higgenbotham]

'An economic divide that is widening': Almost a third of Americans earning $150,000 a year or more say they're living paycheck to paycheck and many rely on credit cards to close the gap

Story by Serah Louis •
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It’s not just low-income Americans drowning under inflation and interest rates — some higher-income folks are feeling the strain on their wallets as well.

Data from a June survey conducted by personal finance software company Quicken revealed that 32% of Americans earning at least $150,000 a year are currently living paycheck to paycheck, while 36% of folks earning $50,000 to $150,000 and 55% of households earning less than that reported the same.

"Our research shows an economic divide that is widening among Americans — there is a large group of hard-working people who are still struggling financially,” Eric Dunn, CEO of Quicken, said in a press release.

“I’m troubled by the compounding problems facing this group — many of them are living paycheck to paycheck and relying on credit cards they may not be able to afford.”

In fact, according to the New York Fed, credit card balances topped $1 trillion in the second quarter of 2023.

With some Americans waiting for their next payday to afford everyday expenses, credit cards may be the only tool left at their disposal. But relying on them too heavily comes at a cost.

The Quicken survey found that 46% of higher-income groups are more dependent on their credit cards than they’ve ever been — compared to just 40% of middle- and 39% of lower-income groups. About a third of folks earning $150,000 a year or more also admitted they won’t be able to pay off their balances before the end of the year.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/persona ... a13d8&ei=8

[Tom Mazanec]

I’m not sure that a year of intense reading on your own without a guide will teach you a trade.