Higgenbotham's Dark Age Hovel

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Higgenbotham wrote:
Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:26 am
Chernobyl, the Twin Towers, Katrina, and Fukushima come to mind as harbingers of things that have not yet been reconstructed to a higher standard and perhaps can't or won't be (though the replacement of the Twin Towers is due to be complete by 2013).
The real question is, after all the finger pointing and arguing by those involved in the cleanup and any rebuilding, whether any of these disasters were rebuilt to a higher standard, if they were rebuilt.

Are there any shiny new fusion reactors in the place of Chernobyl and Fukushima?
Is New Orleans the new shining city on the hill?
Are the Twin Towers now built with shiny high tech space age materials that will withstand impact?

Did anything come in under budget?
Was anything completed timely and more quickly than it was in the past?

How about the Flint water system?
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Graveyard of empires as they already have known. Empire after empire, nation after nation as these pricks wasted 8000 billion on
abject stupidity again. Avarice the spur of greed as Hume also told the retrogrades also.

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Not to mention that young children in all socioeconomic groups in the US today mostly look and act like street urchins, ragamuffins, and savages.

The few that are left.

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Thu Dec 08, 2022 2:07 pm
Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Dec 06, 2022 5:05 pm
I'll discuss the aspects of day care that don't relate to this later.
Front and center to this day care company's stated philosophy was that bullying and misbehavior would not be tolerated. But as I related earlier, due to the "tripledemic" and earlier covid, the school was not filled, so that presented a problem and I think they were letting some of these goals slip so that they could at least break even. I'm sympathetic to that.

Parents were allowed to enter the building at any time and observe what was going on. The class my kid was in was 2 year olds. This was in northwest Austin, Texas in an area where there are some apartment complexes, which I live in, and the owner occupied homes in the area are pretty expensive. I think it would be reasonable to say with the exception of the apartments, this area is upper middle class and above. The cost was $1163 per month for 3 days per week. There were other plans available.

The first week or so my daughter was in this day care, I watched 3 of these kids attack another child. They would take turns running toward the child and yelling at him as they got close. Finally, one girl ran toward him and smashed a toy truck in his face. Most notable about this was as I was watching the staff did nothing and that even though the kids saw me watching them, this did not deter their behavior one iota. Another time I saw a boy grab another boy by the throat. He then let go and grabbed him by the throat a second time. Same thing. The staff did nothing and the kid was not deterred. I walked over to one of the staff and yelled, "HEY, DID YOU SEE THAT?" She just looked at me and went over and separated the bully from the rest of the kids. Since my kid was half a head taller than the largest of these runts, I wasn't worried about her in the short term but I didn't want her to think that any of this was normal. She didn't seem to, as luckily she didn't become aggressive and said she didn't like the school or any of the kids in it and that didn't change.

My general observation was that about half of these kids are savages and, if what I saw is representative, day care is socializing kids to engage in increased bullying in school and in the workplace after that.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:23 pm
Dark Age Chronicles

This post will describe my 2 days after Christmas in the new dark age.

...

When I got to the Wal-Mart parking lot, there was a couple getting out of their car with their 4 year old daughter. Their daughter and mine greeted each other, and we struck up a conversation. I let her do most of the talking. His parents were born in Ghana and she was Mexican. Their story was that they came to Texas from California 2 years ago broke, with basically the clothes on their backs and their vehicle. They are still struggling but renting a place. They like Texas. They said their daughter has one pair of pants, the one she had on. It was dirty and full of holes. They are home schooling their 2 youngest children and those 2 kids have not been vaccinated. They professed a very strong Christian faith, making numerous references to that. Despite the hardships they have faced, their spirits were not broken. I suggested that they go on freecycle.com to get some hand me downs for their daughter. I said there's a baby bust going on and they should be able to get a lot of free clothing. Our conversation terminated when one of their older boys slammed the 4 year old girl's index finger in the car door, ripping about half of her fingernail off.

...
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This is part of one of the photos I took that day.

Generally, I think the covid lockdowns did a lot of damage to kids of all age groups.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcZPOuI-vcU&t=1221s review
data fragility
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The point is they did not want to pay attention then a few will now.
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Not a dark age, but racial prejudice

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That does not look like a global problem where funds are not available. They were available, in white communities. That looks like a local racial problem where latinos and blacks are harassed and oppressed. This is not to say it is not a problem that should be dealt with. It just does not support your claims of a dark age.

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 3:56 pm
That does not look like a global problem where funds are not available. They were available, in white communities. That looks like a local racial problem where latinos and blacks are harassed and oppressed. This is not to say it is not a problem that should be dealt with. It just does not support your claims of a dark age.
This is the thread to discuss this because it directly relates to the new dark age.

Racism is one of the processes by which limited resources are divvied up in the new dark age. It's not the main process. The conservatives would like to say it doesn't exist or exists to a lesser extent than it does. The liberals would like to say that if we can just get rid of racism that we will then have a beautiful world of unlimited resources because it is racism that is blocking the release of abundant resources. Ergo, if we can just get rid of Trump all our problems are solved.

It's not a matter of there were abundant resources and then a switch was flicked and all of a sudden it is a new dark age where there are no resources. That may change by a fraction of a percent per year. During the beginning of a descent, in a decade, there may be 5 percent less to go around. So those in power have to reinvent old ways to direct the resources to themselves while disguising what they are doing - for example, "green energy". Assuming whites are in power, and racism is the process by which limited resources are to be divvied up, white communities may get all the resources they have always gotten, while communities of color may feel the brunt of the decline. But in any case, no matter how the redistribution happens or doesn't happen, or how the fingers are pointed, or how it is argued about, the net result is that New Orleans did not and will not be rebuilt to a higher standard.
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When speaking of resources, it's not a simple matter of saying, for example, that there is less wood for rebuilding to go around so limited wood gets moved here or there by some corrupt process. It's a complex interplay of all kinds of factors. One thing that comes to mind is the discussion of soil depletion a few dozen pages back. Soil depletion may then require more addition of fossil fuel based resources to maintain yields. Human health may decline due to the depletion of soil nutrients. Intelligence and energy levels may also decline and health care expenses may increase. There may be more disabilities as a result. And so on.
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Racism and Economics?

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Racism existed long before your supposed dark age started. Reporting that racism exists in Louisiana is not exactly news, and does not indicate a change in global economics. You should look for something that indicates world wide economic difficulties which started recently without the obvious racial bias to prove your dark age theory.

Again, not that prejudice isn't a serious problem that shouldn't be addressed.

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Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:08 pm
Racism existed long before your supposed dark age started. Reporting that racism exists in Louisiana is not exactly news, and does not indicate a change in global economics. You should look for something that indicates world wide economic difficulties which started recently without the obvious racial bias to prove your dark age theory.

Again, not that prejudice isn't a serious problem that shouldn't be addressed.
You need to stop trolling this thread.

Or alternatively, if you're really too stupid to understand my posts, just stop posting here.
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Higgenbotham wrote:
Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:49 am
There needs to be a limit as to how much extreme liberal buffoonery can be tolerated here.

This is a Mixer, but it shouldn't be all extreme liberal buffoonery, all the time. Perhaps 10 percent typical liberal buffoonery for illustrative purposes would suffice. No more than 10 percent I would say.

Serious topics still need consideration and should not be crowded out with extreme liberal buffoonery.
To recap, I'm not doing any extreme liberal buffoonery in this thread. I've been willing to do it in other threads for illustrative purposes, as shown below:

Extreme Liberal Buffoonery Example 1
Higgenbotham wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:21 am
Basically, the high priests of materialism (an example would be Warren Buffett, the so-called "Oracle of Omaha" who heads up the so-called "Pilgrimage to Omaha" for those who attend his annual meeting having to do with how to make more more more money) lead the herd. The media reports in detail to the herd about every move and every word that the high priests of materialism make or say. That is usually accompanied by the word "billionaire". You and I are part of the herd. To some extent, we all are, as we all live in this stew that the high priests of materialism have had an outsized hand in creating. You are a true believer in what the high priests of materialism are doling out to the herd about the topic of abortion. I am not.
Bob Butler wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2023 11:07 am
Well, I did visit Omaha. I went to Offutt Air Force Base a long time ago (1980?) to install one of my communications projects. That had little to do with any desire for materialistic things. I thought at the time you had to ‘pay your dues”. Do your schoolwork. Be productive at work. The monetary reward just came with it.

As an oddity, my tenant’s grandparents were jewelers, and were more than a little rich. (Understatement, Big understatement.) I have been helping my tenant out, and may be very rich too someday as an oversized thank you. (It is really bad form to declare your mother dead to steal her inheritance, when you know she isn’t dead. We call the ramifications The Saga.. Big mess. (Understatement.)) Anyway, I would just have no idea what to do with all that money.

My daydreams include setting up scholarships for my four great nieces/nephew. My niece is the curator of Cape Cod’s shark museum. (It is possible to be all about great white sharks and afraid of turtles. It is possible to care much more about sea life than financial security.) I might do something for the sharks. She is the only member of the family involved in something resembling a charity.

My supposed obsession with money is limited to using mutual accounts set up when I was working. You have to do something with your money.

I did edit your post, but it was in an effort to keep the entry short. John doesn’t seem to like my putting long posts in the main thread. Glad for the move.

In short, you seem very confused about what I value and believe. Imposing medieval superstitions on others is not the government’s place. I care more about the Constitution than abortion or finance.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Thu Oct 26, 2023 4:23 pm
I am not accusing you of having any obsession with money. I believe the opposite - that you have lived your life in such a way that you are relatively unconcerned and unaware of money. That unawareness would probably make you not able to clearly recognize the corrupting influence of money on the question of abortion.

So let me spell it out step by step, very slowly.

1. America is the richest country in the world.
2. America has a very high wealth gap.
3. Due to factors 1. and 2., there are a lot of very, very rich people in America.
4. The very, very rich people in America, by and large, want to keep it that way.
5. Rich people generally spend almost all of their time working or thinking about money and that's one reason why they are rich.
6. When a person spends all of his time working or thinking about money, that experience influences his view of the world.
7. For such a person, when any given topic comes up, how to make some money automatically enters front and center into the thought process.
8. For any given topic, some of the ways money can be made are buying political influence and influencing public opinion.
9. To influence public opinion, you can, for example, play to the media or buy a newspaper (The Washington Post, for example).
10. If you are going to buy media influence it helps to get it cheap because it buys more influence.
11. Very rich people understand that the average person is not as interested in money as they are.
12. The rich use things that the average person does care about to influence their opinions.
13. There are many ways the rich influence opinions to make money on any given issue and they will figure out how to do that before others do.
14. The average person may not understand how and why the rich influence their opinions because the average person doesn't think that way.
15. Added in anticipation - no, this is not a conspiracy theory.

Extreme Liberal Buffoonery Example 2
Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:58 am
Higgenbotham

Lanan claimed George W Bush staged the 9-11 attacks to prevent the public from learning about CTMU and the white genocide conspiracy theory. According to Wiki, “The white genocide conspiracy theory has continuously recurred among the far-right in a variety of forms, all centered around a core theme of white populations being replaced, removed, or simply killed.” Wiki links it to a lot of the racist plots, including the Nazi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_gen ... acy_theory

So, yes, he is impressed with himself, but his theories are questionable at best.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:06 am
Bobby Fischer had similar far right leanings. If you are a chess aficionado and want to improve your chess ability does that mean you do not study the games of arguably the greatest chess player of all time?

The topic is Chris Langan's CTMU theory. I would not barf up tangential, irrelevant objections just because the man with the highest IQ in America proved the existence of souls and you are unable to counter the theory.
Bob Butler wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:41 am
Right after you commit intelligently on mine.
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:09 am
You're obviously having trouble processing basic information. Once again, I will go through this step by step, very slowly.

When you want to learn about something, you go to the best sources in the world, political views aside.

I gave the example of chess. At one time, if you wanted to learn about chess, you went to Bobby Fischer. He was the best in the world. His politics do not matter. It does not matter what he thinks of Jews. The subject is chess.

If you want to learn about theories of the universe that involve physics (the topic of your recent post), you go to Chris Langan. He is the smartest person in the US, IQ wise. His politics do not matter. It does not matter what he thinks of Jews. The subject is theories of the universe that involve physics.

You are free to come to somebody like me and ask me to commit, or comment, but it's not all that productive to do so if you are trying to delve into the topic of theories of the universe that involve physics. I'm not interested in that and I told you why. So let me tell you why again. Humans have limitations due to the fact that we are all, well, human. In my opinion, we do not have a comprehensive understanding of the universe, and never will. As humans we need to accept that. As I've said, I don't think humans are capable of making absolute moral determinations either as individuals or as a group, yet for many things for which we are incapable, we find ourselves in situations where we must have a view. Because we are human, we must understand our place in the universe and keep that very, very simple. My version of that is it is not the place of humans to tamper with the design of the universe through technology, including abortion. That's something I do not do. I am not telling others not to do that. In our house, we do not do that.
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