Climate Change

gerald
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to Nathan G ---

Some additional information that may be helpful, this link is to a 10 minuet video from http://www.Suspicious0bservers.org --- video ---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZg6fF3 ... 5nP2xzFTWQ --- some VERY interesting comments about sun and the Maunder Minimum, we appear to be entering another such event.
It looks as though the climate will get "interesting" and not just on Earth but also the other planets.

cheers

Nathan G
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After some cursory research, I think I have figured out the cycle.

There seems to be a general cycle of warming and cooling every 1000 or 1200 years (500-600 years of cooling, 500-600 years of warming):

1900-1400 BC, Middle Bronze Age Cold
1400-900 BC, Bronze Age Optimum
900-300 BC, Iron Age Cold
300 BC-300 AD, Roman Warm period
300-800 AD, Dark Age Cooling
800-1300 AD, Medieval Warm Period
1300-1800 AD, The Little Ice Age
1800-2300? AD, Global Warming

Ironically, it appears that warming periods are characterized by agricultural/industrial revolutions and increased fertility, while cold periods are usually dark eras with population scarcity. If only Climate Change was man-made, then we could create bountiful eras artificially!

There also seems to be another cycle of about 60 years (30 years cooling, 30 years warming), the last cycle lasted from about 1940-2000. From 1940-1970, there were just as many environmentalists warning of "Global Cooling" as of Global Warming. From 1970-2000, these cooling enthusiasts died out as the warming seemed to be growing without bound. After 2000, a "pause" in Global Warming has been declared, and the resulting cooling phase has renamed the phenomenon as "Climate Change".
Forbes on Global Cooling
Another article on Global Cooling

However, every 120 years or so this 30 year period becomes especially cold:
1050-1080, Oort Minimum
1170-1200, undiscovered minimum?
1290-1320, Wolf Minimum
1410-1440, undiscovered minimum?
1530-1560, Sporer Minimum
1650-1680, Maunder MInimum
1790-1820, Dalton Minimum
1940-1970, Global Cooling

The next great cold spell should come in the 2060s, after a warming period from 2030-2060.

There is also an 11-year cycle for sunspots, which have an important effect on global temperatures. The last cycle lasted from about 1997-2008. The peak of the current cycle happened in 2013.
Article from NASA on sunspots
Another article on sunspots
Other solar cycles

Of course, there is always the 100,000 year glacial cycle. The last Ice Age ended in 15,000 BC, and has been warming since then (hence the agricultural revolution in 10,000 BC, resulting in, among things, human civilization). The peak of this cycle will come in 35,000 AD, and the next Ice Age will come in 85,000 AD.

All in a days work, I suppose,
Nathan G

gerald
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To Nathan G---

I am impressed! well done!

There is one other thing I would like to add, a joker if you will, and that is mentioned in Immanuel Velikovsky's work " Worlds In Collision " it relates to close encounters of relatively large celestial bodies and the effects on planets. For addition information check out the Thunderbolts site regarding the creation of Valles Marineris on Mars . This huge cavity implies removal of 100,000 cubic kilometers of rock and appears "recent", a real joker in the deck if you will. It appears that some of the this rock has been found on Earth http://www.imca.cc/mars/martian-meteorites.htm

As for the end of the last ice age, I have a suspicion that that may not be quite right. For example the Columbia Basin scabland,--"this strange landscape had been created by monster Ice Age Floods which had gouged channels through it " http://hugefloods.com/Scablands.html ,one possible cause of such a deluge would be the rapid melting of a polar ice cap due to a polar shift. From the twilight zone if you will "These sources suggest that the geographic pole shift will be between 20 to 45 degrees over a period of between 5 and 10 hours. They also suggest the new North Pole could be somewhere near Northern Mongolia in Russia." note the flash frozen mammonth --- http://www.timeline2012.net/index.php/e ... geographic

PS -- twisted thinking, look at a map, such a pole shift would pretty much eliminate Russia and China as a civilizations.

cheers
have no nightmares
gerald

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C(lie)mate gate --- a 4 minute video from SuspiciousObservers regarding new information and the growing pool of skeptics, such as the Swiss Geologist Christian Schluchter's post "Our society is fundamentally dishonest". etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11S4yyQ ... 5nP2xzFTWQ

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Climate Science Paper Censored By American Meteorological Society Journal http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/64386

The free, unhampered exchange of ideas and scientific conclusions is necessary for the sound development of science, as it is in all spheres of cultural life.—Albert Einstein

We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill,On Liberty, 1859

Research that questioned the accuracy of computer models used to predict global warming was “censored” by climate scientists, it was alleged yesterday. One academic reviewer said that a section should not be published because it “would lead to unnecessary confusion in the climate science community”. Another wrote: “This entire discussion has to disappear.”—Ben Webster, The Times, 8 July 2014

President Barack Obama’s aggressive and controversial Climate Action Plan grew out of a draft proposal from one of America’s richest environmental activist groups, it emerged Monday. the Natural Resources Defense Council

The levels of Antarctic sea-ice last week hit an all-time high – confounding climate change computer models which say it should be in decline. America’s National Snow And Ice Data Center, which is funded by Nasa, revealed that ice around the southern continent covers about 16million sq km, more than 2.1 million more than is usual for the time of year. It is by far the highest level since satellite observations on which the figures depend began in 1979. It represents the latest stage in a trend that started ten years ago, and means that an area the size of Greenland, which would normally be open water, is now frozen. The Antarctic surge is so big that overall, although Arctic ice has decreased, the frozen area around both poles is one million square kilometres more than the long-term average.—David Rose, Mail on Sunday, 6 July 2014

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Announcing “Dark Winter: How the Sun is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell” by NASA Insider John L. Casey http://www.pr.com/press-release/576098

· The start of the next climate change to decades of dangerously cold weather
· The high probability of record earthquakes and volcanic eruptions

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Things change and sometimes man causes it. The BIG issue may not be CO2 but all of the rest of human activity. How does one go about changing that? A well educated populace? The populace that the "elites" want uninformed and uneducated?
An example of "elite" decisions.

Watch A Lake Shrink To Nothing In Just 14 Years http://www.businessinsider.com.au/lake- ... ars-2014-9

"the Aral Sea, was once the fourth largest in the world."

and now it is almost nothing. --- but we must be concerned about CO2 --- the other things? what other things?

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Climate change -- interesting
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Published: November 20th, 2014 -----
-- 2014 Set for Record Hot; Record Cold Thing of the Past ----
--- News Stories from Climate Central's Science Journalists and Content Partner -- by Andrea Thompson
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Published Nov 22 2014 ----
Record-Breaking November Arctic Cold ----By Jon Erdman weather.com
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U.S. Daily Records Summary ---http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cdo-web/datatools/records

Year to date , number of record highs ---11696, number of record lows --- 27886
----
It looks like it is getting cooler, -- hmmm

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A comment from a Zero Hedge post http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-1 ... imbalances

We Live In An Era Of Dangerous Imbalances


Sun, 02/15/2015 - 06:03 | 5786417q99x2

From the perspective of Q99x2, the near term future for the human species is bleak. As the NWO world take over continues FRAUD will become ineffective as all major nations resort to it to fight back against the NWO. The loss of the ability to manipulate reality through FRAUD will quickly produce dangerous situations as the affects of reality are scapegoated. The cooling of the earth will continue due to the solar shutdown. volcanic activity will make things even colder and the contraction of the earth's surface will unleash devastating earthquakes that will in turn create nuclear disasters. During the 17th century, at the time of the Maunder Minimum there were more wars and famines than at any other time in recorded history. 1/3 of the human population perished. The cold will not go away for another 30 to 80 years. The generation of the Q99X2, the generation of the singularity shall include the most violent birth pangs the world has ever known. Although once complete an entirely new reality will quickly follow.

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Republicans To Investigate NASA Over Climate Data Tampering
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-2 ... -tampering

As The Telegraph's Christopher Booker concludes,
“This really does begin to look like one of the greatest scientific scandals of all time.”


"But when Homewood was then able to check Giss’s figures against the original data from which they were derived, he found that they had been altered. Far from the new graph showing any rise, it showed temperatures in fact having declined over those 65 years by a full degree. When he did the same for the other two stations, he found the same. In each case, the original data showed not a rise but a decline."

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