mice and Humanity

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gerald
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mice and Humanity

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What Humans Can Learn From The Mice Utopia Experiment

http://www.returnofkings.com/36915/what ... experiment

Strive phase
Exploitative phase
Equilibrium phase
Death phase
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population condensation
depopulation
senseless aggression
breakdown of gender roles
withdrawal
the beautiful ones

"Social animals appear to be regulated by intrinsic behavioural factors. The question is if there is a nature kill switch for a species that has no predators. Calhoun concluded that the stress from social interaction caused the disturbances in behaviour seen in his experiments. If we truly stand apart from the rest of the animal kingdom, we ought to be able to avoid the same pitfalls. What is certain is that unless humans collectively apply some soul-searching, we will fall for the mouse trap."

gerald
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Little interest in "mice and humanity"? --- too close to home? hmmm

How about an interesting BBC video on the "collapsing" Japanese population.

Like a 39 year old man liking computer dating a cartoon image of teen age girl over, his wife, etc etc

https://vimeo.com/80542212

psCargile
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We are our own predator.

Higgenbotham
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gerald wrote:Little interest in "mice and humanity"? --- too close to home? hmmm

How about an interesting BBC video on the "collapsing" Japanese population.

Like a 39 year old man liking computer dating a cartoon image of teen age girl over, his wife, etc etc

https://vimeo.com/80542212
If you go to Russia you'll see basically the same thing. The common thread is these are two homogeneous cultures who imitated Western Industrialization and destroyed their populations. Funny how nobody can see that. Funny how nobody in the report talked about Fukushima, nor would they talk about Chernobyl if a similar report were done on the collapsing Russian population. Funny how the Indian woman who gave the report didn't say that a similar thing is happening in Britain because the native British population is collapsing like Japan's. Same as the US. Redraw the border in the US to exclude the parts that are predominantly non-White and you have a collapsing population. Roughly 50% of babies born in the US are now non-White and that number rises by about 1% each year. El Paso, Texas for example is not really the United States any longer yet it is included in the population estimates. Many schools along the southern border of the US are comprised of 99% plus Mexican. If we had a strict border like Japan those schools would be empty just like the Japanese schools she visited. The Japanese are better off leaving them empty than to waste taxpayer money to fill them like we do. We are subsidizing another country and another culture. In the long run Japan and Russia are more likely to survive with some of their civilization intact than the countries she points to that supposedly don't have a problem because they have "solved" it with immigration. Ultimately their populations will probably end up being lower than in Russia or Japan.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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gerald wrote:What Humans Can Learn From The Mice Utopia Experiment

http://www.returnofkings.com/36915/what ... experiment

Little interest in "mice and humanity"? --- too close to home? hmmm
Actually that was the most interesting link/post I've seen on this forum in the 7 years I've been reading it.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

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There's mice as a whole, and mice in an experiment, and humanity as a whole, and humanity grouped in several societies, cultures and subcultures. I do see some societies mirroring the mice experiment, and if those societies cannot sustain themselves, they will be replaced.

Mice also do not have religion.

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I have a running theory that some creatures that are 1) known to be intelligent and 2) known to be social have the potential to have their own generational theory. The best way to test that is with ants, whose generation is 25 days long and whose saeculum is 100 days long. According to John when I asked about this earlier, there have been documented cases of "ant wars" which could count as crisis eras. The next best way to test the theory is on mice (better rats, but mice work), whose generation is 3 months and whose saeculum is 12 months. There are about 25 other species who meets the qualifications I gave, the vast majority of which are mammals except for three birds (crows, pigeons, and parrots) and one insect (ants). Outside of mice and ants, the remainder of these species would take several years to study their saeculums as they approach human lifespan.

Of course, being that humans are the only species that can think abstractly, it's unlikely such experiments would succeed.

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