aedens wrote:I understand the last bump would perk up some activity. It caught me off guard also.
OLD1953 wrote:I don't think there'll be a QE3.
The way I read the market, the final top conventionally speaking, fundamentally speaking, was August 6. Now the market is vacillating like a bridge getting ready to collapse.
Based on the economy, reading fundamentals, there's nothing left as is being pointed out. That fact would have put the high in on the stock market by August 6 at the very latest by my read if only fundamentals mattered.
However, in this goofy Federal Reserve created rat laboratory we live in, there is excess money that sloshes over to the casino (stock market), speculating that even more excess money will be created. Problem is, nobody really knows how much there is or what will bring it into the casino, or how high prices will go or for how long. It's not a question that can be answered by looking at fundamentals because fundamentals have ceased to matter.
We can make guesses by looking at market movement since August 6 where we see a series of higher highs and lower lows (depends on the index though). The higher highs would represent overshoots due to the excess money.
Now some would say there's no excess money and the velocity is slow. But that only measures the fundamentally based economy. Over in the casino, there is money entering at the expense of the real economy and the velocity in the casino is very, very fast.
I believe Bernake wanted to err on the side of excess money. I don't believe he wants more excess money. What I mean by that specifically is that at some time in the past he wanted to err on the side of excess, not knowing what the "right amount" would be in the future, but now he can see there is excess. Therefore, it's also my guess there will be no QE3. If true, that should be enough to put a top in on the stock market. Problem is, in this position, I don't understand how the air comes out of the stock market slowly or what they will do about that.