Financial topics

[gerald]

We live in a maze of mirrors and lies.

Truly we do. All of our institutions are like zombies on life support. The collapse has already happened but it hasn't totally manifested. Like a person that is in a coma while the parents and the lawyers fight it out over whether they can pull the plug as millions of dollars in medical resources get wasted. Wasting process. Technically the person is alive. People can hope the person can regenerate but they can't. They can look at the electrocardiogram machine and say she's still alive and has a heartbeat. I think if the Karen Ann Quinlan story were to happen today the media and the public would ignore it, same as they ignore the institutional zombies on life support.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Ann_Quinlan

This reminds me of the zombie institutions. Permanent brain damage, vegetative state, violent thrashing. On life support for years while it wastes away. The actual death is a non event.

True ---

However, I think there is more than just incompetence and lies covering up for greed, stupidity and covering ass. For example the recent Rosetta images from the ESA (European Space Agency) probe. { this may be an outlier example }
( And yes I know the site could be considered questionable, but it is does illustrate what other sites on other topics have brought up. A question can be raised as to why this? I will leave that question open and will not speculate. )

In short this link-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlXoLwvzhzc -- raises the issue of -- airbrushed images presented to the public by the ESA {airbrushed and unairbrushed images for comparison }, therefore suppression of information to the public and the possible military reconnaissance purpose of the probe. This by a source from within the ESA that wishes to remain unknown, and apparently went to some length to do so.

hmmmmm

[aedens]

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/ ... -midterms/

what not who g

[aedens]

This Directive was issued on May 1, 2019, in the last full year of the strike of the men of the mind. The economy had been slowly declining for the previous twelve years, a decline that had accelerated in the previous year. Colorado had famously collapsed, and the culmination of that collapse was the defection of Ellis Wyatt and the lighting of his famous Torch, a phrase that referred to his shale oil fields that continued to burn.

In April, Wesley Mouch, Senior Coordinator of the Bureau of Economic Planning and National Resources, convened a meeting with five of the most politically influential men in government, business, and labor, and insisted that he would need wider powers to deal with what everyone now agreed was a crisis. Mr. Thompson was also present, and gave his explicit clearance to the Directive to be known by its number, 10-289. The numbering system, and the specific meaning of those numbers, were never explained.

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Even if you explained, it would be discounted.

When Money Dies, Adam Fergusson, 1975
The book ends with these haunting lines...

"In hyperinflation, a kilo of potatoes was worth, to some, more than the family silver; a side of pork more than the grand piano. A prostitute in the family was better than an infant corpse; theft was preferable to starvation; warmth was finer than honour, clothing more essential than democracy, food more needed than freedom."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-2 ... -venezuela
http://thirdparadigm.org/doc/45060880-W ... y-Dies.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_R7bJahcwc

This is, I believe, a moral tale. It goes far to prove the revolutionary axiom that if you wish to destroy a nation you must corrupt its currency.
Thus must sound money be the first bastion of a society's defence.

One clip in one clip out, the grain colony.

And the Lord said to Moses, "I have seen this people, and indeed it is a stiff-necked people!
Now therefore, let Me alone, that My wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them.

[aedens]

https://ph.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/che ... QAkEzQtDMD

http://www.urbanreviewstl.com/2014/11/h ... ago-today/ fyi

[gerald]

aedens -- the goal is total slavery -- worse then as known.

[gerald]

john --
With prices of oil dropping, coal, iron ore, copper, the general trend of the Baltic dry index, and general commodity prices (http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/? ... rice-index ) do you think we are heading into a deflationary spiral? What will governments do when they need inflation to try to balance their books, but get deflation because of their policies?
hmmm

[John]

> With prices of oil dropping, coal, iron ore, copper, the general
> trend of the Baltic dry index, and general commodity prices
> (http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/? ... rice-index)
> do you think we are heading into a deflationary spiral? What
> will governments do when they need inflation to try to balance
> their books, but get deflation because of their policies?

It's already a disaster for several countries -- Venezuela, Russia,
Iran, Iraq, Nigeria. It has the potential to create a domino effect.
It's even possible that this will turn out to be what triggers the
real global financial panic and crisis.

However, it should be noted that there are oil importing countries
that are benefiting enormously from the plunge in oil prices:
Indonesia, India, Taiwan, S Korea, Japan

[gerald]

> With prices of oil dropping, coal, iron ore, copper, the general
> trend of the Baltic dry index, and general commodity prices
> (http://www.indexmundi.com/commodities/? ... rice-index)
> do you think we are heading into a deflationary spiral? What
> will governments do when they need inflation to try to balance
> their books, but get deflation because of their policies?

It's already a disaster for several countries -- Venezuela, Russia,
Iran, Iraq, Nigeria. It has the potential to create a domino effect.
It's even possible that this will turn out to be what triggers the
real global financial panic and crisis.

However, it should be noted that there are oil importing countries
that are benefiting enormously from the plunge in oil prices:

Indonesia, India, Taiwan, S Korea, Japan

hmmm don't forget --

In Italy’s largest supermarket chains, up to 40% of products are now sold below their recommended retail price, according to sector officials. “There is a constant erosion of our margins,” says Vege chief Santambrogio.
from -- OPEC Presents: QE4 And Deflation -- http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-2 ... -deflation

[aedens]

http://www.elnuevoherald.com/noticias/m ... 32939.html

non aligned crossroads

http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly

10 Kings will be given only one Hour. He is always true.

but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose...

thread from 2010 ... if the decision to dissolve the WEU is carried through — and that’s a big “if” since this isn’t the first time
its death has been predicted over the years http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/europe-defence.3te

subtle is the sands of time and movements

http://gdxforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... mid#p22457

one clip in one clip out, from the grain colony
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[aedens]

No, the problem in Europe is not too little inflation in the short-run; it is staggering levels of taxes, public debt and interventionist dirigisme that represents a permanent, debilitating barrier to growth. Draghi already has driven deposit rates through the zero bound at the ECB deposit facility, and now its spreading rapidly through the banking system to businesses and consumers. stockman

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-2 ... are-raging

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-specia ... ey-2014-11 zone melt downs.

http://www.venganza.org/2014/11/pastafa ... es-prison/ hoist yer flag Pastafarian

THE THWARTING
We, of the Danish Chapter of the FSM Church, sent a gift to Stephen to bolster his spirits.
But alas, we have just received word that the package has been unrightfully seized by the dungeon guards and will be obliterated if the goods within it are not reclaimed within a month.
The items were completely religious in nature (and both sanctioned and blessed (twice) by the Penultimate HighNoodle of the European Church of the FSM):
* Wholegrain pasta – for eucharist (very fittingly of the brand “Princip”)
* Stainless steel Colander – that Stephen may be welldressed in carrying out his religious duties
* Alphabet pasta that our brother may learn the will of our Almighty through ouija-style dinner
* Piratos, the strong licorice-snack for the salty seahardened soul