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[aedens]

Nor did we here.

[aedens]

th down south forwards:
I was at a Rainbow Gathering in the jungle's of Colombia 3 weeks ago, I talked with a naked man from Venezuela for an hour about his country, he said the police will rod you by order of the people in the countryside. The Venezuelan government pays people to live in the countryside and move away from the major city's/capitalism! They call it isolationist but by doing so Venezuela in keeping out corporation and conglomerates from taking the resources and robbing the people so he becomes a evil dictator in the "west" eye's!

Send the bern with arkancidal with the stalking horse also to Venezuela on a humanitarian mission to explain how socialism works.

They can convey how well they have done. http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/

Locally we think the onslaught will continue just as the water, wheat, weather issues.

[Nathan G]

notes: In carefully studying the ancient Hebrew prophet Joel, one is led to ask these questions, for he mentions “the Grecians.” Interestingly, however, of all the Hebrew prophets, major or minor, Joel is one of only six which is unidentified by any specific time table or historical reference. This is ironic, since the whole testimony is about eschatology, or, ‘end time.’ But, there are several ‘end times’ in biblical literature: the end of the world by Flood (Genesis 6:5,6); the end of the northern kingdom of Israel (722 BC, when Sargon II destroyed Samaria, II Kings 17:5,6); the Fall of Jerusalem to Babylon’s Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, (Isaiah 39:6, Jeremiah 27:5-8); the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 AD (Daniel 9:26,27); then of course there are the New Testament depictions of the final cataclysm of the planet, and its entire recreation, as in 2 Peter 3:10 and Revelation 21:1,5. Which ending is Joel talking about? Without identifying his own contemporary circumstances, all we have is a chronology of events. (Even in Jesus’ double exposure depictions of two endings in Mark 13, there is included reference to specific, dated prophecy of Daniel 9:26,27, as in Mark 13:14.) There is one peculiar verse in Joel 3:6, mentioning “the Grecians,” which may have some suggested bearing on the actual real time application of the otherwise ‘plastic’ prophecy. Reprimanding the heathen nations, the Lord declares The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border. In context, the ancient world trade centers of Tyre and Sidon are mentioned (v. 4) and even the Sabeans (v.8). This all sounds like some kind of ancient slave trade, and Jews at this point were made part of it, as the commodity itself. The problem is, there is simply no specificity as to when this happened, historically. We don’t know which ‘ending’ this prophecy is to be associated with. We don’t even know for sure when Joel’s text itself was written. It could be before the Fall of Samaria (722 BC), or before the Fall of Jerusalem (586 BC). To pursue the time, specifically, there may be hope in looking into the matter of “the Grecians.” In Hebrew, the word translated “Grecian” is from the word יון (Yâ-vân, meaning effervescing, hot and active), referencing Javan, son of Joktan. (Joktan was the fourth generation of Shem, Genesis 21-25.¹) Javan is understood to be the father of the Ionians. The Ionians were one of the four major Greek tribes.

I see, that makes more sense. But that being the case, what exactly will happen in April?

[aedens]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-1 ... airstrikes

[aedens]

Facinating times indeed.

[John]

> I see, that makes more sense. But that being the case, what exactly will happen in April?

If you know what he's talking about, then how about explaining it to me?

[aedens]

http://americanvision.org/9371/isaiah-1 ... fulfilled/

foab or glass sooner or later

[Nathan G]

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If you know what he's talking about, then how about explaining it to me?

(Aedens can correct me if I get this wrong)

You see, John, Biblical prophesies don't work intuitively. If the Bible mentions a prophesy, that doesn't mean it refers to a single, specific fulfillment in the future. Rather, it could refer to multiple fulfillments spanning centuries, each of which revolves around central theological themes. Theologians refer to it as "tiered fulfillment". For example, the Emmanuel prophesy in Isaiah 9 clearly refers to the birth of a great leader within Isaiah's lifetime, who saves Judah from the oncoming Assyrians. However, Isaiah 9 is quoted in Matthew 1 as referring to the birth of Jesus. Hence, both are correct simultaneously. In a similar way, the apocalyptic prophesies of the Old Testament don't only refer to the End of Time, but are also tiered fulfillment. They refer first to the destruction of Samaria (722 BC), then the destruction of Judah (586 BC), then the destruction of Jerusalem (72 AD), and then the End of the World. However, it may be possible that these prophesies, including the Book of Revelations, have more tiered fulfillment after the end of the New Testament. The fall of Babylon in Revelations 18 is often associated with the fall of Rome, for instance. Thus, it is possible that the oncoming Crisis Era in 2020 is another fulfillment of some Biblical apocalypse, but not literally the End of the World. The actual End of the World is hidden from us (Luke 21)

The only thing that bothers me is what is supposed to happen on April 13, 2016 (a date cited in many of Aeden's links). Seems to come out of nowhere.

[John]

> (Aedens can correct me if I get this wrong)

> You see, John, Biblical prophesies don't work intuitively. If the
> Bible mentions a prophesy, that doesn't mean it refers to a
> single, specific fulfillment in the future. Rather, it could refer
> to multiple fulfillments spanning centuries, each of which
> revolves around central theological themes. Theologians refer to
> it as "tiered fulfillment". For example, the Emmanuel prophesy in
> Isaiah 9 clearly refers to the birth of a great leader within
> Isaiah's lifetime, who saves Judah from the oncoming
> Assyrians. However, Isaiah 9 is quoted in Matthew 1 as referring
> to the birth of Jesus. Hence, both are correct simultaneously. In
> a similar way, the apocalyptic prophesies of the Old Testament
> don't only refer to the End of Time, but are also tiered
> fulfillment. They refer first to the destruction of Samaria (722
> BC), then the destruction of Judah (586 BC), then the destruction
> of Jerusalem (72 AD), and then the End of the World. However, it
> may be possible that these prophesies, including the Book of
> Revelations, have more tiered fulfillment after the end of the New
> Testament. The fall of Babylon in Revelations 18 is often
> associated with the fall of Rome, for instance. Thus, it is
> possible that the oncoming Crisis Era in 2020 is another
> fulfillment of some Biblical apocalypse, but not literally the End
> of the World. The actual End of the World is hidden from us (Luke
> 21)

> The only thing that bothers me is what is supposed to happen on
> April 13, 2016 (a date cited in many of Aeden's links). Seems to
> come out of nowhere.

This concept of "tiered fulfillment" is very interested, something
that I could use.

You may recall that I've mentioned in other threads that I consider
myself to be the modern embodiment of Ezekiel and Jeremiah and
other ancient prophets.

People like Jeremiah are considered prophets because they foresaw
things like the destruction of Jerusalem. The religious
interpretation is that the reason they knew the destruction of
Jerusalem in advance was because God told them. But now I know that
there's also a perfectly reasonable secular explanation.

We can tell from Ecclesiastes that Solomon had an intuitive
understanding of generational theory. Jeremiah would have been aware
of Ecclesiastes, and so probably also had an intuitive understanding
of generational theory. So the coming destruction of Jerusalem was as
plain as the light of day to him, even if no one else could see it.
He would see the corruption, the nationalism and xenophobia that
occurs in any generational Crisis era, and he could see that it would
lead to destruction. It's the same kind of experience that I've had.

Jeremiah received much the same kind of treatment that Cassandra and I
received:

> When King Josiah died, Jeremiah’s hardships as a prophet of God
> increased. His message aroused great hostility and death threats,
> especially in his native city, Anathoth (Jeremiah 11:21). Even his
> own relatives conspired against him and betrayed him (Jeremiah
> 12:6).

> His persecution increased in Jerusalem when a priest named Pashhur
> sought out Jeremiah to have him beaten and put in the stocks at
> the Upper Gate of Benjamin for a day (Jeremiah 20:1-2). After
> this, Jeremiah lamented the hardship that had come to him for
> speaking God’s words. It was difficult to have become a
> laughingstock to the people and a target of mockery (verse 7).

> Later, spiteful men obtained the king’s approval to arrest
> Jeremiah for prophesying disaster. These men then lowered Jeremiah
> by ropes into a cistern, and he sank into a layer of mud (Jeremiah
> 38:1-6). When another court official learned about Jeremiah’s
> fate, he persuaded the king to let him rescue Jeremiah before he
> starved to death at the bottom of the cistern (verses 7-13).

> http://lifehopeandtruth.com/prophecy/pr ... e-prophet/

So Cassandra was assaulted and raped, while Jeremiah was beaten and
put in stocks. This is standard treatment for people like me.

I'm the living embodiment of the mythical Cassandra and the prophet
Jeremiah. I've even had old friends revile me. I just hope I won't
get raped and assaulted when the predictions come true, as happened to
Cassandra, or beaten and lowered into a cistern, as happened to
Jeremiah. I only hope that I'm simply killed painlessly.

So at any rate, I'm just like Jeremiah, except that I have a web site.
I am Jeremiah. I am Cassandra. If my whole life has had any meaning
at all, this is it.

So now I come back to "tiered fulfillment."

There's a problem that I've always had that I can predict many things
with absolute certainty, but not the exact timeline. Let me apply the
tiered fulfillment concept to some of my long term predictions:

**** Financial crisis (2003)
- 2007 Credit crunch
- 2008 Lehman collapse
- 2007-12 Global real estate bubble collapse
- 2015 China's stock market crash
- Future: Global financial panic and crash

**** Mideast War (2003)
- 2006 - Israel's war with Hezbollah in Lebanon
- 2008 - War between Hamas and Fatah in Gaza
- 2009 - War between Israel and Hamas in Gaza
- 2011 - War in Syria
- 2012 - War between Israel and Hamas in Gaza
- 2012 - War in Yemen
- 2012 - Collapse of America's Truman Doctrine
- 2013 - Rise of ISIS in Syria and Iraq
- 2014 - War between Israel and Hamas in Gaza
- 2015 - Russian military intervention into Syria
- 2015 - Turkey shoots down Russian warplane
- 2016 - Saudi Arabia and Iran break diplomatic relations
- 2016 - Repeated failures of Syria peace agreements
- Future: Massive Mideast war

- World War: China+Pakistan+Sunnis vs US+India+Russia+Iran
- 2005 - China passes "Anti-Secession" law targeting Taiwan
- 2008 - Pakistan's LeT in massive Mumbai terrorist attack
- 2008 - Russia's invasion of Georgia
- 2009 - China declare "nine dotted line" map
- See "Mideast War" items above
- 2013 - China's warships block Philippine fishing grounds
- 2013 - China declares ADIZ in East China Sea
- 2014 - China starts building artificial islands in S. China Sea
- 2015 - Nuclear agreement with Iran
- 2015 - Japan passes law to allow "collective defense"
- 2016 - China-US confront each other in S. China Sea

Like you, I will be waiting with bated breath to see what happens on
April 13.

If nothing in particular happens on that day, then we may see a
reaction similar to what was described in the book When Prophecy Fails
by Leon Festinger, the founder of Cognitive Dissonance Theory. He
found that when prophecies of the end of the world on a certain day
fail to come true, then the people involved change their behaviors.
Whereas they had previously been a kind of secret society, after the
failure they start to proselytize, arguing that God had decide to give
the world a second chance.

I googled the words "April 13 prophecy," and it turns out that there
were end time prophecies for April 13, 2015, and for other April 13s
in the past. Those prophecies have apparently now been updated to
April 13, 2016.

[aedens]

To much emphasis on what should and can be avoided.
A good view on some items here.
http://rocksolidpolitics.blogspot.com.a ... l?spref=tw

Agree, or disagree makes no difference now . Zones in Jordan, Israel, Syria once again with retards
with nasty toys run the show. The key theme is spoils. This covers are caloric discussions.
We all have understood one eye in the past and one in the future.
As we also read the script has already been written.
As we conveyed early is wrong and truly taxpayers are idiots.

Follow me here on this. The north magnetic pole moved and I utilized a view and used nasa links
that just as they told us it went through ankara. We know from numerous others who noted here to follow
the damn events. Some will, and some will simply not be able to admit it.

The reference nathan used was from micah earlier, we touched on that decadel dot then also.
It also confimed what both used from another if follwed to conclusion but we all know that.
The aramaic, greek, hebrew fragments text support thenselves. A book "scrolls" was found in 1958
on Isaiah just as the bone heads then said it was littered with errors. Guess what they where wrong
to such a degree it was plain to see at times the Boss indeed has a sense of humor to his children.
The tier approach can be deconstructed also with textual critism
and I would follow the logic just as John indicated also correct.
It also shows what others understood to contruct a redacted point in time
since other books have been omitted. Some we found later....
The advisarys knows this also as does the comforter "restrained" who was left behind for us.
Late April to me only indicates another passover
so a deference to think about finance as these luntics covet whats under the dirt
as a few more fig tree leaves come forth in the season as was written on that topic.
We have read the reports on deposits and reserves for decades also.
Problem is some information can only be released a decade or more later, as has been done
since it was the correct thing to in that kuznet cycle of manufacturing if people understand
it not.

Essential these dots or covenants are real, so you have three choices.
When Jersalem fell they had forty years to change. They did not, the seal was already set.
I consider we have more correct than incorrect lately.
As we learned before one guy said no. And it turned out to be a reflection of the atmoshere
so launch was aborted. Of course he got the boot. Who knows anything anymore since truly nothing
is new under the His Sun.

I for one consider central and south america a growing concern since as we clearly noted here
the middle east is all effects was already known.

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