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Higgenbotham
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Also, I don't think we would be going into a dark age at all if Bernanke and other Central Bankers hadn't pumped the bubble back up in 2010. The reason is that if the financial system had been allowed to collapse in 2008, the collapse could have been slow enough to put a lot of knowledge to use in order to stop the collapse at a much higher floor than will now be possible, given that the likely speed of the coming collapse will be much greater than it would have been.

As an example, reading through the headlines this weekend, it is being seriously proposed by some that major US cities will go from having police protection to completely defunding police, and 36% of Americans recently polled are in favor of defunding police, which is stunning, even to me. I believe that even the thought of that kind of flipflop would have been impossible in 2008, and if the bubble had been allowed to collapse in 2008, there would have been some kind of police protection throughout the entire depression that would have occurred. Instead, I'm pretty sure that at some point there will be no police protection at all as it currently exists in any major city in America.

When Spain collapsed centuries ago, there was a saying something to the effect that, "Those who can will not, and those who will can not." That's the point America has gotten to today.
IN WASHINGTON, PRETENDERS REIGN AND TRUTH-TELLERS ARE SILENCED

Ron Smith

THE BALTIMORE SUN

July 31, 2009

Looking at the history of runaway government spending, a disturbing pattern is readily discernible: There is never a lack of observers at a given time who understand the severity of the trouble at hand, but these people lack the power to cut costs and avert calamity. An observer at the time of Imperial Spain's unwinding more than three centuries ago commented on the failure of every attempt at real reform, writing, "Those who can will not and those who will cannot."
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xp ... story.html

I agree with Ron that this was a critical time in our history to get it right. That window of opportunity has passed.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

aeden
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The Office can enable fair trade since free trade is just a rogue algo anyways.
Is is still naive to anticipate they only care about special interests...
We know that answer here and they must decide to listen.
If these half wits blame Biden or Trump they deserve to be in the dust bin of history.

As we know one flare its over in north America anyways. As Ben knows from isotopes found the Sun blotted out and the
plasma eruption left a record. And by the way it was recorded in that dusty old book also.
If they had a brain in there skull which they do not nuclear should be quench reactors anyways.

I realized you can design a better reactor, but if no one uses it, it almost doesn’t matter. MIT

The jump of the burnout phenomenon in March was utterly remarkable,” said Carlos Sponton, who has an MSc in work psychology and is the head of behavioral science at Yerbo, commenting on the impact of COVID-19.
“Then in April, we could see resilience and adaptation appear in reaction to the new purpose.”

By 2020, the aim is to break ground on a prototype facility.
The company’s ultimate goal is to build 500-megawatt electricity generating plant.

The essential point is move forward and the Office must understand the old way is burned out.

And had been. Move on the quench reactors and natgas regens also.
LOCA - loss of cooling accidents - conditions still bother me since the tech is available to replace it plain and simple.
I seen the EO on power transmission issues so we will see hopefully.

Cut off the power and water to the Seattle cult. Or let the cult understand socialism is suicide may be simply better.

Meanwhile: (c) The term “entity” means a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, group, subgroup, or other organization.

http://gdxforum.com/forum/search.php?ke ... sf=msgonly
thread: https://www.oecd-nea.org/nsd/docs/2009/ ... 009-15.pdf
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/fig2_322446004


Since 2011, four separate companies in North America have announced plans for MSRs: Flibe Energy (started by Sorenson himself), Transatomic Power (started by two recent MIT graduates), Terrestrial Energy (based in Canada, which recently partnered with Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory), and Martingale, Inc., which recently made public its design for its ThorCon MSR.

In addition, there is now renewed interest in MSRs in Japan, Russia, France and China

Best practice should include thinking souls and fair trade to safety. The process will enable thought and help to all in need in swot maps.

The majors can discuss that over a one page email to balance needs.

Also I trust Mikovits data more than the other ruthless pricks.
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ili data is in

as known the elderly treatment zones was euthanasia

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The company Nikola went public a couple months ago by merging with a tiny listed company (i.e. they did not do the normal difficult process of going public). They are now valued at $23 billion when Ford is about $26 billion (some days they were more than Ford). However, they have yet to ship a car or truck of any kind. Their main expected product seems to be a hydrogen/electric semi but this may be years away from shipping still.

The estimated cost is about twice the Tesla Semi. The Nikola truck won't have self driving capability that Tesla will. Tesla is said to have already started production on their Semi.

I was looking at some NKLA puts for January 2021:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/NKLA/op ... 1610668800

The current Nikola stock price is $64 and a $65 strike put for Jan 2021 is $45. This means the stock has to drop from $64 to $20 before you start making money. This is an implied volatility of 268%. The options market clearly understands this stock is going down.

This seems indicative of stock market froth.
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aeden
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good catch v

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Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:12 pm
Also, I don't think we would be going into a dark age at all if Bernanke and other Central Bankers hadn't pumped the bubble back up in 2010. The reason is that if the financial system had been allowed to collapse in 2008, the collapse could have been slow enough to put a lot of knowledge to use in order to stop the collapse at a much higher floor than will now be possible, given that the likely speed of the coming collapse will be much greater than it would have been.

“There is no means of avoiding the final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as a final and total catastrophe of the currency system involved.”
Ludwig von Mises, Human Action [1949]

https://lpmaryland.org/liberty-quotatio ... asy-money/

I do believe that Bernake set the US on the path to destroy the US dollar. And this will make a mess of the global economy. But the world could switch to Bitcoin and keep on going. I don't see the death of a currency as the death of the world or a dark age. Most paper money dies. Someone calculated for over 200 fiat currencies it was about an average of 28 years till a currency died. The US has only really been fiat money since 1971. Still, it has lasted longer than most. This is because it is a world reserve currency so you can print more before it dies.

As the dollar starts to hyperinflate people will learn to move their wealth to commodities, gold, silver, Bitcoin. The knowledge of how to survive in hyperinflation is out there and will get plenty of publicity when the time comes. A bit of Googling and people can see what to do. So people will protect themselves and their businesses. The dollar will die but that does not mean a dark age.

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** 14-Jun-2020 World View: Healing
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:16 pm
> There are many who look at these hazards and expect a complete
> wipeout, but I think they are underestimating the earth's
> diversity and ability to heal itself, and human
> resilience.
I see this as a change of opinion, a softening of your previous views.

aeden
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Two people were killed and at least five others were injured in a drive-by shooting in an Atlanta-area neighborhood on Saturday, authorities said.

Officers responded to the Edgewood neighborhood in northeast Atlanta around 5:45 p.m. after shots were fired into a crowd of people, FOX5 Atlanta reported.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/professional ... ngs-police

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aeden
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wave good by to media retards...... we did ago....

Corruption and abuse thrive in darkness, and corrupt abusers want to keep that darkness intact. They want to keep things as unconscious as possible.
It’s beginning to look like that cat’s out of the bag, though, and I would be very surprised if they ever manage to get that sucker back in there.
What an exciting time to be alive. tyler

Sends to Seattle. S2S
leave em alone as we warned
send the meth heads, the druggers, the damn BLM fools carry the DNC swamp water
leave us alone

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To conflate a point my young barber moved to Seattle since why work here, when I can do the same there and get more since just because I am young does not mean I am not smart. I told Him dead armadillos are on the yellow line in the road as Jim Hightower said.
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Dear Governor get thee the hell out of the way. The data is in. Protect the infirm. We did and are.
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Finally, Beijing is pushing a conspiracy about 'conspiracy theories'.
And the gaslighting continues...

Higgenbotham
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John wrote:
Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:06 am
** 14-Jun-2020 World View: Healing
Higgenbotham wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:16 pm
> There are many who look at these hazards and expect a complete
> wipeout, but I think they are underestimating the earth's
> diversity and ability to heal itself, and human
> resilience.
I see this as a change of opinion, a softening of your previous views.
The reason I clarified that is the Scientific American article said the radiation from nuclear waste will be around for 250,000 years. Once the economy collapses, there are likely to be hundreds of Fukushimas as the radiation in spent fuel ponds is released.

Given that, how does it make sense that a bottom would be achieved in 2 or 3 centuries, as I've been saying?

The answer is there will be dead zones in many areas of the planet where cancers and infertility that persist for generations will wipe out the human population in those zones. But those who point strictly to that are underestimating the earth's diversity and the fact that there will be pockets where humans can survive, even in the United States. A good example of that is Anguilla, where Vince is located. There will in all probability be survivors there, though the population may be drastically reduced.

Also, the diversity in earth's species will in my opinion, allow many species to survive even in the dead zones that humans cannot inhabit. And that will be a good thing for the survival of all species on earth, including humans.

I'm sorry is disappointed you with the appearance of unfounded optimism.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.

aeden
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H we know better on trends.
Currently, 82.5 % of the population of the U.S.A. is urban and we know the rule of large numbers
the demshviks covet on wage structure and inflation wage scaling from that historical norm for centuries of it.
You cannot explain it to them. As the Doctor pointed out in real facts and data the focus needed to be the actual risk cohort.
As we pointed our clearly from Dents projections from needs analysis eighty percent are brain damaged and half of those are nice people.
Scale up Flint and yes other zones as ignored as we are to actual issues we have to navigate.
Your correct on the flutter scaling effect and it is not our problem they cannot understand it ever.
The only scaling that matters is the rate of change and ponerlogical effects they ignored in the first place.
We are going to have to leave it Jared Diamonds input models as we are. We can only the red circle the cargo cult maps for now.

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