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gerald
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Post by gerald »

Why Gold?

The human response and relationship to gold is very interesting. It looks beautiful, it elicits an emotional response, and it is perceived
to have special value.

Gold has been and is extracted from the ground, sometimes with great difficulty and bodily risk, and then - much of it is buried - in the
"ground"-- in vaults -- not to be seen, ---- logical, of course.

During a gold rush people have sometimes traveled thousands of miles at great expense and sometimes at great risk for the possibility of
maybe finding gold.

Gold has been used extensively by many cultures through out history in religious symbols and structures,
and in the symbols and structures for nobility ( "the DIVINE right of kings" , etc. )

Gold is considered rare and is used as a store of valve. Prior to contemporary times about the only use of gold was
for decoration, symbolism and as a store of value.

People who have never seen gold will respond positively to it, such as a primitive person seeing gold for the first time, --- or -- let a
person who has never held a one kilo gold bar, hold one, and watch their face light up. It is as though gold has magical powers.

In some pre-Columbian Central American societies gold belonged to the "gods" or the "Monarch/King" - a stand in - for the "gods"

Why does humanity respond to gold in this unusual way?

Lets go down the rabbit hole, and maybe we can find a possible answer.

Notice that humanity will emotionally respond to visual stimulus and because of this stimulus will
sometimes act against ones best interest -- such as a visual image that leads to sexual
arousal. This physical response to a visual stimulus is genetically programmed.

If one wants to put any credence in the ancient Sumerian " Book of Enki" which states, that the "gods" came for Earth's gold in order to save
their planet's atmosphere. And to ease their work in the mining operations, they created a "slave race" - humanity.

If so, humanity could also have been programmed to respond to gold in a desired way.

Originally, the "gods" extracted gold from sea water, prior to creating humanity, but found it expeditious to mine gold from rock, hence humanity. ( the world"s sea water may contain up
to 10 times the amount of gold mined by humanity, http://goldfever.com/gold_sea.htm)

And for a side trip down the rabbit hole - http://stargatetothecosmos.com/internet ... ir-planet/

It appears the "gods" have left, but humanity is still "programed".

Now back to your regularly scheduled "reality".

psCargile
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Re: Gold

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Ancient Aliens Debunked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ

But what about diamonds?

gerald
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psCargile wrote:Ancient Aliens Debunked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ

But what about diamonds?
Very interesting and informative, Thanks!

My explanation regarding gold and humanity's relationship to it ( down the rabbit hole) was meant to be kind of a like a modest proposal (http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html) mind stimulation.

What was most interesting about the information in the links, is how one side ( or details there of ) of the argument were presented, and interestingly how uncomfortable and sometimes more important details were ignored. And also, how "authority" was presented ( of course, one can't cover everything, and given truths vary over time ) - both sides of the issue --- have agendas. The objective truth? --- hmmmm.

As far as diamonds - unless one knows what they are they just look like a clear rock, like quartz, no big deal.

Again,Thanks for the links.

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Re: Gold

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gerald wrote:The human response and relationship to gold is very interesting.
Haven't been on this blog for a while. You left out the traders Gerald; they have been around since gold became money early in human existance. I enjoy trading gold because its a market easier to read than for example forex. No emotional attachment whatsoever to the gold, just to make some dollars. I buy when my charts give me a buy signal and sell when the momentun slows. Its my little trading business on the side with about 5% of my net assets invested into it and it does very well.

When gold eventually peaks and the bubble bursts I'll have to find something else to trade. Right now there's a buy signal and I reckon gold is good for more than $30 rise; let see. I leverage 100 to 1 so a 3% rise is good money.

Best wishes
Richard

gerald
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richard5za wrote:
gerald wrote:The human response and relationship to gold is very interesting.
Haven't been on this blog for a while. You left out the traders Gerald; they have been around since gold became money early in human existance. I enjoy trading gold because its a market easier to read than for example forex. No emotional attachment whatsoever to the gold, just to make some dollars. I buy when my charts give me a buy signal and sell when the momentun slows. Its my little trading business on the side with about 5% of my net assets invested into it and it does very well.

When gold eventually peaks and the bubble bursts I'll have to find something else to trade. Right now there's a buy signal and I reckon gold is good for more than $30 rise; let see. I leverage 100 to 1 so a 3% rise is good money.

Best wishes
Richard
I am sure gold trading is and has been interesting and profitable, - for a long time - and when the bubble bursts, well, I am sure there will still be an underling "craving" for gold, for what ever reason. All people do not respond the same way, to anything.
Good hunting,
gerald

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Hi Richard,

I received a spam message from Hannes Engelbrecht <fliekmaker at
yahoo.com>:
> SOUTH AFRICA TODAY: Farms in the Western Cape region are being
> burned, shops in small towns ransacked, people assaulted and
> intimidated. At least two people have been shot. Reports that a
> white farmer had been dragged from his vehicle and murdered.

> This is total chaos; yet the ANC government and its trade union
> partner Cosatu are ENCOURAGING the carnage! Very few reports go
> out on the mainstream media, indicating a media black-out. Social
> networks like Facebook and Twitter are our only means of
> information and action.

> Make no mistake -- this is a xenophobic attack aimed at white
> people. This had been going on for years now with thousands of
> Afrikaners/Boers murdered and attacked; yet there is no outcry
> from the world.

> WE URGE you -- please use your status in your country's Parliament
> to make this known to the world; to impose sanctions against the
> black racist government of South Africa until they stop the
> madness.

> We are not going to sit back and follow the route of Zimbabwe
> where all whites were bankrupted, murdered and forced to flee. We
> are 4,5 million -- and as God is my witness -- this madness has
> all the elements of turning into a full scale race war.

> We need you and your country to stand up TODAY and stop the
> nonsense.

> HANNES ENGELBRECHT
> BOER CRISIS ACTION
Does this represent reality?

John

gerald
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John:

It might be even more complicated then the black vs. white issue - unknown validity -- http://cofcc.org/2012/05/blacks-and-col ... ican-town/

"Evidence has been emerging that full blooded Negros, including leaders of the ANC, harbor animosity towards the Coloureds. The Coloured are viewed as competition, in the same way Zulu and Xhosa view each other as competition for government resources.

The ANC views the racially mixed Coloureds as “tainted” by white blood. Leaked memos show that the ANC is secretly discriminating against Coloureds in government hiring. However, it is only Coloureds who are not full blooded Khoisans who are targeted."

Isn't this the same problem that Hati has?

-sarcasm - Just great, keep the prisoners ( humanity ) fighting amongst them selves.

psCargile
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Re: Gold

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Oh, I think that the series "Ancient Astronauts" does an adequate job presenting their side for a rebutal not to have to include it. I grew up interested in this stuff as well, and as a young teen read "Chariots of the Gods", although I was skeptical about the design of "Ezekiel's spacecraft".

I've seen the series and shook my head at the Gold episode. Given the extreme over-abundance of natural resources that the universe has to offer, I find it highly unlikely that an extraterrestrial civilization would not rather choose a uninhabited world rich in gold to mine. And to replenish gold content in an atmosphere? Where did that idea come from and why would it make any kind of sense?

richard5za
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Re: Gold

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John wrote:I received a spam message from Hannes Engelbrecht <fliekmaker at
yahoo.com>:
Hi John,

My apologies for the delayed reply - I am very stretched at present and only connect to this wesite at weekends.

This email is exagerated, certainly at present. There is however a great deal of labour unrest in South Africa at present especially in mining and is now spreading to agriculture, and most protests turn violent. The violence is a way of being heard. Grape farmers in the Western Cape have had vineyards torched and homestead danaged and have hired some heavy security for protection, There is also a lot of anti-white feeling from the have nots.

The tragegy on both farm and mine labour salary demands is that it promotes mechanisation with comensurate loss of labourer jobs. Here's some STATS-SA statistics of 2011: South Africa has 32.6 million adults of working age. Of these 13,3 million or 41% have formal employment. The balance are either unemployed or have work in the informal sector. Unemployment is usually quoted by government at 25% but its much higher than that.

The unrest is also fueled by a lack of services delivery by government and corruption, and a lack of opportunity. We are also the most unequal income country on the planet with a "Gini coefficient" of 65. Have a look on google if you haven't come across 'Gini' before this.

Education in the private schools ranks with the best in the world, but for the average black person the educational standard it is truly dreadful. Its the main reason (along with high crime levels, and corruption) that we don't have the means to genuinely empower the broad cross section of society.

Thats why in my retirement I work in Early Childhood Development for the poor. Simply it gives kids a chance in life. If you like have a look at our website www.ashatrust.com

Finally I have no doubt that we are in a generational crisis era so things will probably get worse.
Best wishes
Richard

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Post by John »

Thanks for the information, Richard.

I checked out your web site. These are the kids that are going to be
growing up during the Clash of Civilizations world war -- the new
generation of "Silents." You can help these kids better than most
people can, because you know what's coming, and you can help them
prepare.

Good luck, Richard.

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