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Higgenbotham
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Yet in one respect, at least, Greenspan has had a change of heart: he no longer thinks that classic orthodox economics and mathematical models can explain everything.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/25ebae9e-3c3a ... z2iqOVgw60

John, Greenspan thinks he is plowing into new intellectual territory when you said exactly the same thing 10 years ago.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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Solzhenitsyn probably understood as well as anyone that the state employs or condones many forms of violence: physical, mental and moral.
Society appears to have little defense against the abyss of human decadence, such as, for example, misuse of liberty for moral violence against young people, such as motion pictures full of pornography, crime, and horror. It is considered to be part of freedom and theoretically counterbalanced by the young people's right not to look or not to accept. Life organized legalistically has thus shown its inability to defend itself against the corrosion of evil.
http://www.believersingrace.com/solzhenitsyn.html
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Solzhenitsyn wrote:Such a tilt of freedom in the direction of evil has come about gradually, but it was evidently born primarily out of a humanistic and benevolent concept according to which there is no evil inherent to human nature. The world belongs to mankind and all the defects of life are caused by wrong social systems, which must be corrected.
http://www.believersingrace.com/solzhenitsyn.html
Greenspan denied any culpability. But in late 2008, he admitted to Congress that the crisis had exposed a “flaw” in his world view. He had always assumed that bankers would act in ways that would protect shareholders – in accordance with free-market capitalist theory – but this presumption turned out to be wrong.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/25ebae9e ... z2iqOVgw60
Solzhenitsyn wrote:There is a disaster, however, which has already been under way for quite some time. I am referring to the calamity of a despiritualized and irreligious humanistic consciousness. To such consciousness, man is the touchstone in judging everything on earth -- imperfect man, who is never free of pride, self-interest, envy, vanity, and dozens of other defects.
http://www.believersingrace.com/solzhenitsyn.html
During the first six decades of his career, he thought – or hoped – that Homo economicus was a rational being and that algorithms could forecast behaviour. When he worked on Wall Street he loved creating models and when he subsequently joined the Fed he believed the US central bank was brilliantly good at this. “The Fed model was as advanced as you could possibly get it,” he recalls. “All the new concepts with every theoretical advance was embodied in that model – rational expectations, monetarism, all sorts of sophisticated means of thinking about how the economy worked. The Fed has 250 [economic] PhDs in that division and they are all very smart.”

And yet in September 2008, this pride was shattered when those venerated models suddenly stopped working.
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/25ebae9e ... z2iqOVgw60

We really need to stop following people like Greenspan, Bernanke, and Yellen.

Interesting that Solzhenitsyn passed away one month before the Lehman collapse.
While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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The S&P 500 level of 1748 was mentioned last weekend as a level that might offer some resistance to the advance early week. It offered comparatively little resistance.

Also, the blue upward sloping trendline has offered resistance every time it was hit, but not this time (notice that it starts with the election of Obama).

All the lines on the chart that are the same color are 378 points apart. The next stop on that basis is 1800 and would be in line with the 666 March 2009 low plus 378 times 3.

Many analysts are looking for the 1780 area. None are looking for 1800 so far as I know.

Is this the final blowoff spike? Looks like it could be. Timewise, it seems possible that it could last to month end.
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While the periphery breaks down rather slowly at first, the capital cities of the hegemon should collapse suddenly and violently.
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http://www.amazon.com/Histoire-Fran%C3% ... 1272332543

Most of his work was coveted and released in 1963 as the circle of thought it touched are slowly being realized.
Narratives avoid to root discussions. He did not and to be clear others then did not either. Hume had to tone
the message but others understood the reason why they had to convey reason and the nature of the day.
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Higgenbotham wrote:
> Yet in one respect, at least, Greenspan has had a change of heart:
> he no longer thinks that classic orthodox economics and
> mathematical models can explain everything.
> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/25ebae9e-3c3a ... z2iqOVgw60

> John, Greenspan thinks he is plowing into new intellectual
> territory when you said exactly the same thing 10 years
> ago.
What I've always found fascinating about Greenspan is that he
obviously knew in 2004-5 that there was a bubble going on. In 2004 he
said that the real estate bubble was a good thing, because it gave
people more money. By the end of 2005, he was in a state of panic.
All of this is obvious from his speeches, and yet nobody else has ever
pointed this out, and Greenspan himself is evidently ashamed to admit
it, since he never did anything about the bubble. Bernanke, by
contrast, didn't have a clue what was going on until it was too late,
and by this time even he must realize that his QE program is leading
to disaster.

** Ben S. Bernanke: The man without agony
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/pg/ ... rnanke.htm


The other thing about Greenspan is this game that the media played
pretending that they didn't understand Greenspan's speeches, when all
they had to do was go to the Fed Reserve web site and read the speech
enough times until it became clear what he was saying. That's what I
did, but the financial journalists like Greg Ip preferred to pretend
that they were so stupid that they couldn't do that, and Greenspan
seemed happy to go along with their stupidity.
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John wrote: By the end of 2005, he was in a state of panic.
All of this is obvious from his speeches, and yet nobody else has ever
pointed this out, and Greenspan himself is evidently ashamed to admit
it, since he never did anything about the bubble. Bernanke, by
contrast, didn't have a clue what was going on until it was too late,
and by this time even he must realize that his QE program is leading
to disaster.
I don't think Yellen has a clue now. I think that is a requirement for taking the job when things are about to fall apart. How could anyone who understood what is coming be willing to take that job. It is a no win situation. If they don't print the government won't have money to operate. If they do print they will get hyperinflation. You just have to be clueless to take that position. But it does seem clear she will always come down on the side of "print more money" no matter what.
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vincecate wrote:I don't think Yellen has a clue now.
I agree.
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