More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

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CrisisEraDynamo
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More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

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Mr. Xenakis, you've been beating the Clash of Civilizations drum for a while now. What puzzles me is that you don't try to get more exposure for Generational Dynamics, considering what you're predicting. Granted, Big Peace seems to have helped a bit, but I've seen little discussion beyond that site. Is it because you don't want to project a "cult leader" image? You don't want people thinking you're trying to sell them something? Help me out here.

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Re: More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

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CrisisEraDynamo wrote: > Mr. Xenakis, you've been beating the Clash of Civilizations drum
> for a while now. What puzzles me is that you don't try to get more
> exposure for Generational Dynamics, considering what you're
> predicting. Granted, Big Peace seems to have helped a bit, but
> I've seen little discussion beyond that site. Is it because you
> don't want to project a "cult leader" image? You don't want people
> thinking you're trying to sell them something? Help me out here.
I've certainly tried, and a couple of other people have tried for me.
I've also tried running ads and I once issued a couple of press
releases, but those were all a waste of money. Generational Dynamics
is not a "viral" kind of thing. There are very few people who want to
try to deal with this kind of stuff. They want to believe that
everything will be ok, and they don't want to hear anything else.

The ones who come to this site and visit regularly are people who can
overcome their anxieties, and can prepare themselves and their
families for what's coming. That kind of population cannot spread
virally. Each individual has to find Generational Dynamics on his
own.

I know from my own experience of telling my friends and co-workers
about this site. A couple read everything I write and discuss it with
me; all the rest ignore the whole thing. A few consider me to be a
psychopathic maniac, or actively hate me. This is something I've
learned to live with.

I started the web site in 2002, and I can recall the days when
I was getting only a few page hits per day. It's been growing
steadily since then, and now it's close to 10,000.

As I've said many times before, I expect never to be any kind of hero.
I have a very dark feeling about what's going to happen to me. I
identify closely with the mythical Cassandra, hated and disbelieved in
her predictions, and then reviled and raped and later killed when the
predictions came true.

Apollo fell in love with Cassandra and gave her the gift of seeing the
future. When she spurned his advances, he cursed her: She could still
prophesy the future, but nobody would believe her. She warned people
not to bring the wooden horse into the city of Troy, and predicted
that it would lead to disaster. When her predictions came true, and
the soldiers poured out of the Trojan Horse and massacred most of the
people in the city, Cassandra was reviled and raped.

After the war, Cassandra became a concubine of King Agamemnon.
Agamemnon's wife, who was having an affair herself, laid a trap for
Agamemnon. Cassandra foresaw the trap and warned him. but he ignored
her warnings and, as a result, both Agamemnon and Cassandra were
killed.

I know that I'm truly one with Cassandra. I expect the worst, a very
dark future, and my only hope is that I don't end up being raped
myself. As it says in Ecclesiastes: "For with much wisdom comes much
sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief."

Which brings us back to the beginning. Many people don't want any
more knowledge, because they don't want the grief that comes with
it.

Having said all that, I'm still open to specific suggestions to
get increased exposure. If you have any ideas, by all means let
me know.

John

CrisisEraDynamo
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Re: More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

Post by CrisisEraDynamo »

Wow. I didn't mean to hit a raw nerve like that.

Here's how I see it: our ancestors weren't wrong about everything. In their time, they knew that wars had to be fought, and they fought them. We are the ones who came to believe in the notion of a perpetual peace, this idea that big wars just can't happen, along with the even stupider idea that anything to the contrary was just the bleating of the military-industrial complex.

Thanks in part to your website, I've come to accept that big wars are a part of life, and one's duty is to survive them if on the home front or win them if on the battlefield. Still, though, I don't let it work me into hatred for everyone around me -- a world comprised permanently of predators out only for themselves would be incomparably worse than the Clash of Civilizations. I know it'll be a hard life -- I'll certainly have to fight -- but at least I'll do it knowing that I was right.

When I read your theory, I thought on it a lot, and even now, I have a small inkling of doubt. Still, I understood that it was no use heaping invective at you in the manner of BronxZionist and the like, since you didn't cause any of it. I know that you're just trying to help.

If Generational Dynamics is truly what you believe, just keep going -- no use lying. Sure, I may challenge you once in a while, but I won't get angry at you.

-- CrisisEraDynamo

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CrisisEraDynamo wrote: > Here's how I see it: our ancestors weren't wrong about
> everything. In their time, they knew that wars had to be fought,
> and they fought them. We are the ones who came to believe in the
> notion of a perpetual peace, this idea that big wars just can't
> happen, along with the even stupider idea that anything to the
> contrary was just the bleating of the military-industrial complex.
That's not really true. The crisis war paradigm is that people panic
and launch a war that comes as a surprise to almost everyone.

The Civil War was a surprise to almost everyone, especially after
the ferocity of the Battle of Bull Run.

WW I was a complete surprise. Life was very happy in Europe in the
early 1900s, and no one had any idea that it would soon turn to hell.
I wrote about this in the following:

** The gathering storm in the Caucasus.
** http://www.generationaldynamics.com/cgi ... asus080817


Note particularly the quotes from Norman Angell's 1910 book, wherein
he declared that war was obsolete because of the complex financial
interdependence of the countries of the world. Change a few names,
and that book could have been written today.
CrisisEraDynamo wrote: > Thanks in part to your website, I've come to accept that big wars
> are a part of life, and one's duty is to survive them if on the
> home front or win them if on the battlefield. Still, though, I
> don't let it work me into hatred for everyone around me -- a world
> comprised permanently of predators out only for themselves would
> be incomparably worse than the Clash of Civilizations. I know
> it'll be a hard life -- I'll certainly have to fight -- but at
> least I'll do it knowing that I was right.
This is a very interesting statement because it concisely states the
attitudes of many people in the Millennial generation, and indeed the
attitudes of young people around the world.

Going back to WW I as an example, it was a Serb high school student
that decided to take matters into his own hands, assassinating ustrian
Archduke Franz Ferdinand, triggering the massive war.

No one in the Silent generation would ever say, "a world comprised
permanently of predators out only for themselves would be incomparably
worse than the Clash of Civilizations [world war]." Remember this
moment, because ten years from now you're going to be wondering what
you were thinking.
CrisisEraDynamo wrote: > When I read your theory, I thought on it a lot, and even now, I
> have a small inkling of doubt. Still, I understood that it was no
> use heaping invective at you in the manner of BronxZionist and the
> like, since you didn't cause any of it. I know that you're just
> trying to help.

> If Generational Dynamics is truly what you believe, just keep
> going -- no use lying. Sure, I may challenge you once in a while,
> but I won't get angry at you.
Thanks, I appreciate it.

John

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I don't normally place a lot of credence on blogs when it comes to the true facts of current events, but that site has a reputation for citing sources and for generally having their act together. What really cinches it for me, though, is that the timing is perfectly in sync with some professional rumours I've been hearing suggesting a possible Israeli strike on Iran's nuclear facilities as early as October.
ahsan

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Re: More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

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Well this seemed a good a place to post this and I didn’t want to start a new thread so…

Last week we had a meeting (one of many by various “teams”) being held to discuss where we thought the international company that I work for will need be in the, say 20 year range. Think of it like asking your kids what their opinion is and as the wise all knowing parent you can say, hey good idea, or just simile and humor them giving them a pat and making them feel part of the already decided process (but I digress).

Being that I am a low man on the totem pole (and very happy there thank you very much). I find myself in a room with 6 others that I did not know plus my Division Head (who had no idea who I was of course).

This person went around the table asking a set series of questions and eliciting a response from each person there (so no hiding)

Thanks to being a longtime GenDyn reader, I begin going into detail on world events and where I thought the company should position itself in order to extract from non aligned regions into aligned regions then described GenDyn and using this method to predict areas/regions the company could invest in that were post crisis at this time. I told them the 70-80 year window would be good for targeting longer term investments but to pull out of areas going into or close to crisis.

I didn’t get long to speak but Division Head was surprised to hear these kinds of thoughts. No one else was even thinking this way. The person next to me said "But what about Vietnam?" and I told them not a good idea just yet, maybe after the war.

John I have no idea if what I said stuck. Division Head added it to the list of other ideas and then that was that. I can say, though, that I had dreaded the meeting (6 hr round trip for a 3 hour meet) but in the end I had a lot of satisfaction (and fun frankly) being able to lecture the group on the method and then using it to try and lay out future plans.

I did NOT, however, give them the full Cassandra WW3 etc etc talk. They would have thrown me out on my ear. I tried going into that yesterday night after a conference with a colleague I had not seen in a long while. At the bar. He was drinking pretty heavily. He got to a point where he could no longer follow what I was saying (but he did buy the drinks ha ha). I then gave up. The bar closed and "kicked" us out. I never even got to the part about China kicking it off. So he will just have to find out the hard way I suppose.

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MarvyGuy wrote: > Being that I am a low man on the totem pole (and very happy there
> thank you very much). I find myself in a room with 6 others that I
> did not know plus my Division Head (who had no idea who I was of
> course). ...

> I didn’t get long to speak but Division Head was surprised to hear
> these kinds of thoughts. No one else was even thinking this
> way. The person next to me said "But what about Vietnam?" and I
> told them not a good idea just yet, maybe after the war.

> John I have no idea if what I said stuck. Division Head added it
> to the list of other ideas and then that was that. I can say,
> though, that I had dreaded the meeting (6 hr round trip for a 3
> hour meet) but in the end I had a lot of satisfaction (and fun
> frankly) being able to lecture the group on the method and then
> using it to try and lay out future plans.
This story really made me laugh.

Well I have some good news and some bad news for you. Your Division
Head now knows who you are. (That's both the good and bad news.)

As a modern day Cassandra, I know what it's like to be hated,
despised, treated as a pariah, even by people I've known for years.
So for your own well being, be careful where you go with this.

On the other hand, of the six people, it's quite possible that at
least one of them will understand what you're saying, and so you it's
possible you made a friend.

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Re: More publicity for Generational Dynamics?

Post by MarvyGuy »

Ha, thanks for the encouragement!

Anyway I had other ideas that were not related to GenDyn so I think I am safe for the time being. When I distill what I have read on this site (plus a few others I like to read) I have the opinion that, within the bounds of polite society, I need to let folk know to try and wake them up so that, if nothing else, they can enjoy this time of relative freedom and peace before it is completely gone for our generation. I always back off and tell them they will have a moment when they realize that I was right all along (but too late). I can imagine Priam had the same experience, in the end.

Thanks John for all of your hard work over the years and 2015 included where we see you predictions coming to pass one by one.

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