I'm the map!

Awakening eras, crisis eras, crisis wars, generational financial crashes, as applied to historical and current events
Heisenberg
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I'm the map!

Postby Heisenberg » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:26 am

Just cuz' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBvMsT3prg

Now the real reason for posting:

Came across this global ethnicity map which I thought the dearly beloved readers of this form may find interest in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Masastan/comments/7wruln/detailed_ethnoracial_map_of_the_world_2018/?st=jdikvgj8&sh=493512b9

Also came across this less useful map that sparked a thought:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Masastan/comments/87rx1r/world_map_of_y_dna_haplogroups/

While the flow of Y chromosomes is in large part influenced by earlier settlers who's identity groups were able to expand more easily without conflict, I think Y chromosomes could in part be used as basis for tracing identity groups through longer periods of time. If you view female's role in evolution, it is to carry the species forward. An evolutionary "win", when it comes to crisis wars, means the winning side's males (assuming not a complete genocide) would then reproduce with the losing sides females. Thus the spread of the y chromosome correlates loosely with "winning" identity groups. This isn't air tight obviously. For one the identity groups would have to be stable over long periods of time to enter the genome and have homogeneous genetics which doesn't hold as well in modern times but for ancient times this assumption would hold much better and give a GD history over the long arch of human history. Thoughts?

FishbellykanakaDude
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Re: I'm the map!

Postby FishbellykanakaDude » Sat May 05, 2018 5:15 am

Heisenberg wrote:Just cuz' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBvMsT3prg

Now the real reason for posting:

Came across this global ethnicity map which I thought the dearly beloved readers of this form may find interest in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Masastan/comments/7wruln/detailed_ethnoracial_map_of_the_world_2018/?st=jdikvgj8&sh=493512b9

Also came across this less useful map that sparked a thought:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Masastan/comments/87rx1r/world_map_of_y_dna_haplogroups/

While the flow of Y chromosomes is in large part influenced by earlier settlers who's identity groups were able to expand more easily without conflict, I think Y chromosomes could in part be used as basis for tracing identity groups through longer periods of time. If you view female's role in evolution, it is to carry the species forward. An evolutionary "win", when it comes to crisis wars, means the winning side's males (assuming not a complete genocide) would then reproduce with the losing sides females. Thus the spread of the y chromosome correlates loosely with "winning" identity groups. This isn't air tight obviously. For one the identity groups would have to be stable over long periods of time to enter the genome and have homogeneous genetics which doesn't hold as well in modern times but for ancient times this assumption would hold much better and give a GD history over the long arch of human history. Thoughts?


It's a long established interpretation that the "movement" of YDNA (male line haplogroup) indicates the "winning males" expansion (or contraction).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-c ... haplogroup

..but then, everyone alive with a Y Chromosome is a "winner", aren't they? :)

My line seems to be the R1b(L21>M269>Z16431/Z16432) one,.. and I like to think of the R(R1b/R1a) group as my more-or-less "immediate" peeps.

..I really like the "irishness" of the Bashkir people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ZqiLtfeOM&t=1s). They are my "brothers" in R1b-ness, although they are in another language group entirely and are pretty far away from my Irish "homeland" (my paternal line being Irish for some few hundreds of years, at least).

Go Horse People!!!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDxplETtZiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XUufOc2Wo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN5vtkupa3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Gf4RcPDp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq7Tsu37Wuc (OK, that's a bit trippy!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnMN5yDifng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4c7jpryYiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDcfYsZ4qNo

They are (now) a turkic speaking people, but if many Irish, like myself, were to squint a bit, we'd look remarkably similar to them.

One of the GREAT things about getting your "identity" from a historical (and immutable) characteristic like ones Y-dna haplotype is that it humbles you by making you aware of the group within a group within a group within a group etc that you exist within.

I have R1b/R1a/R relatives in asia, africa, and europe. They are of every skin color, and nearly every language group,.. yet we are all brothers, as the sons and daughters of our fathers fathers fathers back to the one man who mutated our common distinguishing allele.

I don't know my mtDNA (mitochondrial DNA) yet, which is my mothers mothers mothers line. That's another interesting story waiting to be discovered.

Of course, those who are DETERMINED to be resentful about "group affiliation" can certainly use their Y haplogroup/haplotype to stir up hate, but there is no shortage of other things with which to do that.

Aloha! :) <shaka nui!>


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