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by vincecate
Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:59 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
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Re: Financial topics

abs wrote:An extremely intriguing paper by Carmen Reinhart describing "financial repression" as a mechanism for dealing with massive public debts:
The idea in that paper that the current debt situation is like after WW2 is bogus. Most of the deficit spending was for the war so it was easy to make huge cuts in spending after the war and have a budget surplus. There is no easy way to cut 50% of the US government budget now. So now the debt is getting 10% bigger every year but back then it was getting smaller. This is not like then. This is much worse.

The other problem is that few people understood inflation in 1945 and many more do today. It is much harder to find enough fools to buy bonds that pay an interest rate lower than the inflation rate today. There is just no way this could go on for 30 years now.

http://howfiatdies.blogspot.com/2011/06 ... -wwii.html
by abs
Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:57 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
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Re: Financial topics

An extremely intriguing paper by Carmen Reinhart describing "financial repression" as a mechanism for dealing with massive public debts:

http://www.imf.org/external/np/seminars ... f/crbs.pdf

John - Can you share a quick recap of which industrialized/developing countries (non-3rd world) are either 1-2 generations out from their last crisis? Put another way, which countries have a stable outlook from a Generational Dynamics perspective over the next 20-30 years? My thinking is that some of these countries may represent better markets for investment purposes.
by John
Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:58 am
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
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Re: Financial topics

I agree with you that it's impossible to reflate the bubble.

If we use the balloon analogy, then the leaking balloon is getting
smaller and smaller. There's no way to reflate the balloon
uniformly. All you can do is reflate a bulge here and there, but the
balloon as a whole keeps deflating.

Here's a new article that describes the current crisis in very simple
terms: It's a shortage of money.
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard wrote:
> The capital well is running dry and some economies will wither

> The world is running out of capital. We cannot take it for
> granted that the global bond markets will prove deep enough to
> fund the $6 trillion or so needed for the Obama fiscal package,
> US-European bank bail-outs, and ballooning deficits almost
> everywhere.

> Last Updated: 7:55PM BST 25 Apr 2009

> Unless this capital is forthcoming, a clutch of countries will
> prove unable to roll over their debts at a bearable cost. Those
> that cannot print money to tide them through, either because they
> no longer have a national currency (Ireland, Club Med), or because
> they borrowed abroad (East Europe), run the biggest risk of
> default.

> Traders already whisper that some governments are buying their
> own debt through proxies at bond auctions to keep up illusions –
> not to be confused with transparent buying by central banks under
> quantitative easing. This cannot continue for long.

> Commerzbank said every European bond auction is turning into an
> "event risk". Britain too finds itself some way down the AAA
> pecking order as it tries to sell £220bn of Gilts this year to
> irascible investors, astonished by 5pc deficits into the middle of
> the next decade.

> US hedge fund Hayman Advisers is betting on the biggest wave of
> state bankruptcies and restructurings since 1934. The worst
> profiles are almost all in Europe – the epicentre of leverage, and
> denial. As the IMF said last week, Europe's banks have written
> down 17pc of their losses – American banks have swallowed half.

> "We have spent a good part of six months combing through the
> world's sovereign balance sheets to understand how much leverage
> we are dealing with. The results are shocking," said Hayman's Kyle
> Bass.

> It looked easy for Western governments during the credit bubble,
> when China, Russia, emerging Asia, and petro-powers were
> accumulating $1.3 trillion a year in reserves, recycling this
> wealth back into US Treasuries and agency debt, or European
> bonds.

> The tap has been turned off. These countries have become net
> sellers. Central bank holdings have fallen by $248bn to $6.7
> trillion over the last six months. The oil crash has forced both
> Russia and Venezuela to slash reserves by a third. China let slip
> last week that it would use more of its $40bn monthly surplus to
> shore up growth at home and invest in harder assets – perhaps
> mining companies.

> The National Institute for Economic and Social Research (NIESR)
> said last week that since UK debt topped 200pc of GDP after the
> Second World War, we can comfortably manage the debt-load in this
> debacle (80pc to 100pc). Variants of this argument are often made
> for the rest of the OECD club.

> But our world is nothing like the late 1940s, when large families
> were rearing the workforce that would master the debt. Today we
> face demographic retreat. West and East are both tipping into
> old-aged atrophy (though the US is in best shape, nota bene).

> Japan's $1.5 trillion state pension fund – the world's biggest –
> dropped a bombshell this month. It will start selling holdings of
> Japanese state bonds this year to cover a $40bn shortfall on its
> books. So how is the Ministry of Finance going to fund a
> sovereign debt expected to reach 200pc of GDP by 2010 – also the
> world's biggest – even assuming that Japan's industry recovers
> from its 38pc crash?

> Japan is the first country to face a shrinking workforce in
> absolute terms, crossing the dreaded line in 2005. Its army of
> pensioners is dipping into the collective coffers. Japan's savings
> rate has fallen from 14pc of GDP to 2pc since 1990. Such a fate
> looms for Germany, Italy, Korea, Eastern Europe, and eventually
> China as well.

> So where is the $6 trillion going to come from this year, and
> beyond? For now we must fall back on the Fed, the Bank of
> England, and fellow central banks, relying on QE (printing money)
> to pay for our schools, roads, and administration. It is
> necessary, alas, to stave off debt deflation. But it is also a
> slippery slope, as Fed hawks keep reminding their chairman Ben
> Bernanke.

> Threadneedle Street may soon have to double its dose to £150bn,
> increasing the Gilt load that must eventually be fed back onto
> the market. The longer this goes on, the bigger the headache
> later. The Fed is in much the same bind. One wonders if Mr
> Bernanke regrets saying so blithely that Washington can create
> unlimited dollars "at essentially no cost".

> Hayman Advisers says the default threat lies in the cocktail of
> spiralling public debt and the liabilities of banks – like RBS,
> Fortis, or Hypo Real – that are landing on sovereign ledger
> books.

> "The crux of the problem is not sub-prime, or Alt-A mortgage
> loans, or this or that bank. Governments around the world allowed
> their banking systems to grow unchecked, in some cases growing
> into an untenable liability for the host country," said Mr Bass.

> A disturbing number of states look like Iceland once you dig into
> the entrails, and most are in Europe where liabilities average 4.2
> times GDP, compared with 2pc for the US. "There could be a cluster
> of defaults over the next three years, possibly sooner," he said.

> Research by former IMF chief economist Ken Rogoff and professor
> Carmen Reinhart found that spasms of default occur every couple
> of generations, each time shattering the illusions of bondholders.
> Half the world succumbed in the 1830s and again in the 1930s.

> The G20 deal to triple the IMF's fire-fighting fund to $750bn
> buys time for the likes of Ukraine and Argentina. But the deeper
> malaise is that so many of the IMF's backers are themselves
> exhausting their credit lines and cultural reserves.

> Great bankruptcies change the world. Spain's defaults under Philip
> II ruined the Catholic banking dynasties of Italy and south
> Germany, shifting the locus of financial power to Amsterdam.
> Anglo-Dutch forces were able to halt the Counter-Reformation, free
> northern Europe from absolutism, and break into North America.

> Who knows what revolution may come from this crisis if it ever
> reaches defaults. My hunch is that it would expose Europe's deep
> fatigue – brutally so – reducing the Old World to a backwater.
> Whether US hegemony remains intact is an open question. I would
> bet on US-China condominium for a quarter century, or just G2 for
> short.

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... ither.html
Evans-Pritchard makes a point that we haven't otherwise discussed:
The world "tipping into old-aged atrophy." Personal and government
savings accounts are being drawn down to support older people, thus
reducing the amount of money available for new investments.

But the point is that the $6 trillion is not a static amount. It's
constantly growing -- as pensioners demand more money, and as
financial institutions and hedge funds have to deleverage and write
down toxic assets. If that amount is increasing by $1 trillion per
month, for example -- and that's not an unreasonable guess -- then
the central banks of the world would have to do quantitative easing
(print money) in additional amounts of $1 trillion per month. And
that's clearly not happening.

So the deflationary spiral will continue despite futile central bank
efforts to reflate the bubble, creating the geopolitical consequences
that Evans-Pritchard describes.

Stein's Law: If something cannot go on forever, then it won't.

Sincerely,

John
by John
Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:17 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
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A credit card without payback.

From a web site reader:
> Either you have misunderstood Mr Koo or I have misunderstood what
> you have written. You may or may not wish to alter your text based
> upon this comment:

> Mr Koo is not suggesting a "credit card without payback" at
> all. What he is suggesting is that massive government intervention
> in various forms will enable the USA economy to rebuild itself in
> recessionary conditions rather than fall into depression which
> makes rebuilding even harder. All the debt has to be repaid, by
> businesses, banks, private individuals, etc. The recession will
> last a long time while all this takes place, as it did in Japan.
Actually, that is exactly what he's suggesting.

What you're saying is technically correct. Obviously, all debts have
to be repaid eventually.

But when he said, "No worries!", he was saying, "No worries about
repaying the debt." His presentation clearly gives the impression
that there's no need to repay the debt for 30 years, since crisis
survivors will be paying down debt for at least that long. And
telling a politician that he can spend as much money as he wants, and
won't have to worry about repaying it for 30 years is equivalent to
telling him that he has a "credit card without payback."
> I am separately emailing you the Reinhart and Rogoff presentation
> of 3 January 2009 to the American Economic Association. Upwaited
> Government spending is standard global practice in recessionary
> conditions, Koo has simply focused upon certain Japanese issues
> which he feels are applicable to the USA. The sting in the tail of
> course is the debt!

> I do think your point about global recession now versus when Japan
> applied the strategy is "on the button". I am in no doubt that
> Japan was substantially saved by its exports, and indirect exports
> i.e. Japanese companies setting up manufacturing businesses in
> low wage South East Asian countries (including manufacturing joint
> ventures in China in those days) and repatriating the export
> profits.
I agree with you that debt repayment is the issue, and I also agree
with your implication that the tail is going to "sting" much, much
sooner than 30 years from now.

Sincerely,

John