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by aeden
Sun Mar 26, 2023 8:58 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
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Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

https://www.kaotic.com/video/dabfa110_20230323090831_t
bish
The older I get the more ole Robert was correct on the streets.
When the billy clubs went away so did the streets.
He was the guy that built bombers all night for boeing and went to school all day.
Ended up an Engineer for zone c that has fallen even before mayor groot got the boot.
Ended up a very wise and very old 96 years old before He went Home.
I do miss Him when he would laugh at the uniparty educated retards.

bish family values for you here as beating the Homeless People is a Flex.
https://www.kaotic.com/video/7d021106_20230112121814_t

demsheviks uniparty fools will end up flexed as they loot you damned senseless fools

not in gbtc or biti just 90 day tbills and select inputs metals


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by aeden
Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:10 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

Investing is hard. So is saving our planet. Opinions on both differ.

HSBC https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/no-pl ... head-quits

rule 15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
rule 16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won’t have to address the issue.

HSBC Suspends Head Of Responsible Investing Over 'Nut Job' Climate-Alarmist. t

Translation: "through the massive debt that's needed to build a better future".

When it comes to firmware and remote tunneling you are clueless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh-Tk_svMyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=j3hmBzwWPcY still ongoing

“Detailed analysis” has revealed that Pfizer and AstraZeneca employed 123 “party loyalists,” and that “there were more than 600 party members across 19 branches working at the British banks HSBC and Standard Chartered in 2016.”
In addition, “firms with defence industry interests” like Airbus, Boeing and Rolls-Royce “employed hundreds of party members.”
Sky News Australia. Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:29 pm
In The Mail on Sunday, former British Conservative Party leader Iain Duncan Smith wrote that this discovery “proves that members of the Chinese Communist Party are now spread around the globe, with members working for some of the world’s most important multinational corporations, academic institutions and our own diplomatic services.”
by aeden
Tue Jun 28, 2022 5:20 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

by aeden
Fri May 06, 2022 12:45 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

Boeing Leaves Chicago as City Struggles With Crime.
Biggest double Duh for staying that long.
by John
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:00 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

** 05-Mar-2022 World View: The Bitchy Curmmudgeon
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:26 pm > That's what I'm implying. Boeing management had no idea what they
> were doing when they thought they could substitute $9 per hour
> Indian programmers and get the same result, while saving the labor
> cost.

> I don't believe EPAM will have that same expectation. We can
> watch and see what they do and how they do. EPAM is in the
> business of software and as a result of knowing what they know I
> think they will take measures to retain existing staff that they
> need, unlike Boeing who got rid of valuable high paid staff.
> Also, they will have a better idea of how to replace staff where
> they need to and bring them up to speed.

> I think it would be reasonable to say that if EPAM has serious
> problems over the next few months it will be likely that the 20%
> of Fortune 500 companies that rely on The Ukraine for software
> deliverables will also be having problems. The CNBC article said,
> "There were 200,000 Ukrainian developers in the country in 2020,
> according to Amsterdam-based software development outsourcing
> company Daxx, which says that 20% of Fortune 500 companies have
> their remote development teams in Ukraine."
OK, I'm going to continue in one of my favorite roles, the bitchy
curmudgeon.

First off, there's no difference between a software group in a
software company and a non-software company. Internally, the groups
are exactly the same. Externally, the upper level managers have no
idea what the software engineers are doing.

Within a software group, the manager couldn't care less whether the
project is going to crash. He just wants to keep it going for as long
as possible. If someone (like me) says that the project is going to
fail, then that person will be fired rather than allow the project to
be disbanded.

The programmers in the group don't want someone coming into the group
who is better than they are. They'll sabotage him and get him fired.

The $9 per hour figure probably applies to junior level testers or
writers. In India, a skilled programmer probably gets $30-40 per
hour, which would be $60-80 per hour in America.

However, the salary is irrelevant to how programmers are hired.
They're hired by checking boxes in a laundry list of skills.

For example, here's a laundry list of skills on the resume of a senior
programmer:
  • Languages: C#, ASP.NET, ASMX, C, C++, STL, Java, Visual Basic,
    Perl, JavaScript, Visual C++, Java Swing, Eclipse
  • Web Interfaces: HTML, JavaScript, VBScript, ASP, ASP.NET, JSP,
    XML, SAX, iPlanet Web Server, IIS, IIS 6, Web Service, Apache,
    Tomcat
  • Networking: SNMP, TCP/IP, VPN, Netcool, Netcool Portal, Java
    RMI
  • Databases: Oracle, SQL Server, Sybase, Informix, SQL, SQL*Loader,
    ODBC, ADO
  • Platforms: Windows Vista,XP,Server 2003,NT/95/3.1, Win 32, Linux,
    UNIX, Sun Workstation, Solaris, J2EE
  • Legacy: IBM Mainframe, 3270 Emulation, Assembler, PL/I (PL1),
    COBOL, DEC VAX, Assembler, DCL
  • User interfaces: Windows, WinForms, WPF, MFC, Motif, ATL, COM,
    DCOM, SAX, ActiveX, Swing, .NET
  • Software: Unicode Data Flow, SQA Robot, IBM's ICU
  • Methodologies: Object-Oriented Design/Development), Scientific/
    Mathematical Algorithms
  • Encryption: DES, AES (Rijndael)
The programming manager may compare this list against the similar list
of requirements that someone in human resources has provided. Nobody
has any idea what most of these items mean, but if enough boxes are
checked, and if a meaningless code test is passed, and the applicant
wants the job, then the applicant can be hired, and the salary is
irrelevant. Whether the applicant is capable of understanding the
company's large, complex software system will not be known for a long
time after he's hired.

You say that Epam knows what they're doing (unlike Boeing)? Then
there's only one thing the Epam can do. If they have 10,000 software
engineers working in Ukraine, then they'll find a way to relocate
those 10,000 software engineers to other countries, so that they can
continue working on the same project without Epam having to hire
replacements.
by Higgenbotham
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:26 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

John wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm ** 05-Mar-2022 World View: Going Forward
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:49 pm > The Boeing disaster seems pretty typical of what may be seen going
> forward. I'll be watching Epam closely because, from what I'm
> reading, they supposedly know what they're doing.
Are you implying that Boeing didn't know what they were doing,
but Epam does?

And don't tell me that they'll learn from the mistakes of others,
because that's not how the world works.

That's what I'm implying. Boeing management had no idea what they were doing when they thought they could substitute $9 per hour Indian programmers and get the same result, while saving the labor cost.

I don't believe EPAM will have that same expectation. We can watch and see what they do and how they do. EPAM is in the business of software and as a result of knowing what they know I think they will take measures to retain existing staff that they need, unlike Boeing who got rid of valuable high paid staff. Also, they will have a better idea of how to replace staff where they need to and bring them up to speed.

I think it would be reasonable to say that if EPAM has serious problems over the next few months it will be likely that the 20% of Fortune 500 companies that rely on The Ukraine for software deliverables will also be having problems. The CNBC article said, "There were 200,000 Ukrainian developers in the country in 2020, according to Amsterdam-based software development outsourcing company Daxx, which says that 20% of Fortune 500 companies have their remote development teams in Ukraine."
by John
Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

** 05-Mar-2022 World View: Going Forward
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:49 pm > The Boeing disaster seems pretty typical of what may be seen going
> forward. I'll be watching Epam closely because, from what I'm
> reading, they supposedly know what they're doing.
Are you implying that Boeing didn't know what they were doing,
but Epam does?

And don't tell me that they'll learn from the mistakes of others,
because that's not how the world works.
by Higgenbotham
Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:49 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

The Boeing disaster seems pretty typical of what may be seen going forward. I'll be watching EPAM closely because, from what I'm reading, they supposedly know what they're doing.
by John
Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:24 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

** 05-Mar-2022 World View: Interchangeable cogs in a wheel
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:42 pm > John, I thought of you when I read that article. My impression
> has always been that if a company loses its software engineers in
> a region like Eastern Europe, they can just plug software
> engineers from India or elsewhere into the projects seamlessly.
> Not so?
I took another look at my response to your 2019 posting where you
wrote about hiring. Here's some more of my response:

Here's a story that just came out yesterday. It would be almost
impossible to believe if it didn't happen all the time.

Development of the Boeing Max 737 software was outsourced to
Indian programmers with no aviation experience, earning $9 per hour.

> "The Max software -- plagued by issues that could keep
> the planes grounded months longer after U.S. regulators this week
> revealed a new flaw -- was developed at a time Boeing was laying
> off experienced engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs.

> Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its
> subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little
> as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries
> lacking a deep background in aerospace -- notably
> India.
I really have to laugh, because I've seen exactly this happen at
Ability Networks.

Not only that, but also:
> "HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks,
> said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a
> flight-test group that supported the Max.

> The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set
> by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less
> efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin
> said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and
> forth because the code was not done correctly.”"
This is exactly what happened at Ability Networks, and it's also what
happened at CGI Corp. It would be hilarious if it weren't so
disastrous.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -engineers

So this exactly what you're describing, "if a company loses its
software engineers in a region like Eastern Europe, they can just plug
software engineers from India or elsewhere into the projects
seamlessly." Boeing did exactly this with the Max software, and it
was a complete disaster.

I should add that Indian programmers are good programmers. But you
can't replace highly skilled programmers who have been working on a
system for years with outsiders who have to learn the software system
from scratch. It typically takes them a year to come up to speed, if
they ever do.
Higgenbotham wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:14 pm > If the war in The Ukraine proceeds are you expect, what would be
> your estimate of the percentage of software projects worldwide
> that will turn into a disaster?
If all they do is replace skilled programmers with young newbies who
know nothing about the system, then it will almost always be a
disaster. The Boeing Max situation is an excellent example.
by aeden
Fri Dec 31, 2021 6:19 pm
Forum: Finance and Investments
Topic: Financial topics
Replies: 29822
Views: 16823171

Re: Financial topics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSjO5-sSOY
Hoover Institution seems to be the last bastion of intelligence and integrity.


It'll be a dozen little versions of Boeing's decline, each with expense-account corp junkets.