by Bob Butler » Sun Jun 02, 2024 1:15 pm
FullMoon wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:22 am
The pot calls the kettle black.
Bob has a one track mind together with misunderstandings and deliberate cobbling together of falsehoods to maintain his cult fantasies and demonic hatred of anything different from his psychotic belief system. Convincing a cult member of the falsehoods inherent in the cult rarely works.
In recent times, the blue values championed have included rule of law, democracy, equality, science, and containment. I would not qualify these things as 'falsehoods'. Trump's habitual criminality, his cheating on elections, his support of racist bigoted groups, promotion of religious superstition and support of Putin's conquest seem to be the conservative answer. I would agree that convincing a cult member to change values rarely works. In the conservative case, what has always been is assumed to continue. The belief seems to be to fight progress.
Progressives perceive it differently. What conservativse choose to champion seems
very questionable at this time.
As Lincoln quoted, "Woe unto the world because of offenses! for it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." You need a crisis as the 'woe due' to remove foul cultural traits. Every four score and seven years, a new birth of freedom. Such should be celebrated rather than fought. It does take a large woe due to get a significant cultural change. I wish it not so, but that is how it seems to be.
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The pot calls the kettle black.
Bob has a one track mind together with misunderstandings and deliberate cobbling together of falsehoods to maintain his cult fantasies and demonic hatred of anything different from his psychotic belief system. Convincing a cult member of the falsehoods inherent in the cult rarely works.
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In recent times, the blue values championed have included rule of law, democracy, equality, science, and containment. I would not qualify these things as 'falsehoods'. Trump's habitual criminality, his cheating on elections, his support of racist bigoted groups, promotion of religious superstition and support of Putin's conquest seem to be the conservative answer. I would agree that convincing a cult member to change values rarely works. In the conservative case, what has always been is assumed to continue. The belief seems to be to fight progress. [i]Progress[/i]ives perceive it differently. What conservativse choose to champion seems [i]very[/i] questionable at this time.
As Lincoln quoted, "Woe unto the world because of offenses! for it must needs be that offenses come; but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh." You need a crisis as the 'woe due' to remove foul cultural traits. Every four score and seven years, a new birth of freedom. Such should be celebrated rather than fought. It does take a large woe due to get a significant cultural change. I wish it not so, but that is how it seems to be.